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wefalck

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    19th shipbuilding and naval history, indigeneous boats and their history

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  1. It becomes difficult to distinguish modell and original …
  2. @druxey, being the lucky owner of a Lorch, Schmidt & Co. WW-pattern watchmaker’s lathe, probably from the 1950s, with the extremely rare screwcutting attachment, I haven’t actively looked for those thread-chasing attachments anymore for years … as the generation of the original owners slowly dies out, they may appear on the market more frequently now.
  3. Precision and surface quality depends on many factors. Vibration is a problem and a lot of mass helps to keep it down, which is why toolroom lathes are heavy, several hundred kg or pounds. On such lathes you can minute precision parts, we are talking about tolerances in the range of 1/100 of a mm or better. Slides are scraped (or precision ground) and lead-screws are ground snd lapped for smooth operation and uniformity along the whole length of travel. For shipmodelling this not normally needed. Tolerances in the order of 1/20 mm (the minor division on most dials) is sufficient. Most of our parts are quite short and we work on stock held in a chuck or collet. Re-chucking to work on the other end of a part is less frequently needed, which removes concentricity issues. Even with a lower quality lathe thus good results can be achieved. For hobby work a bench-lathe is perfectly adequate, we don’t need heavy floorstanding toolroom-lathes.
  4. Just to clarify a misnomer: the UNIMAT is not a jeweller‘s (American for watchmaker) lathe. It is designed as a modeller‘s lathe. It just doesn’t have the precision of a real one. I don’t know, whether this applies to all versions, but it’s motor is notorious for giving up prematurely …
  5. If it's black on white, heat-transfer paper for laser-printers could be another route. Play around with the lettering on a graphics program until you are happy with it, print it onto the transfer-paper and iron it on. The paint underneath, of course, has to be sufficiently heat-resistant. In principle it works also with ordinary printer paper, but the heat-transfer paper gives off the toner completely, while printer paper always retains some.
  6. Oh yes, you are right. I had been thinking of lead-screws and changewheels, but the UNIMAT one was of the cartridge-type, where are cartridge with a master-thread that is screwed to the lathe spindle and there is a follower on a bar behind the lathe that engages with the master-thread and moves the cutting tool along. It the kind you would find mainly on lathes for the optical industry, where short, but very precise threads are needed. Here is a picture from www.lathes.uk.co: In nearly 30 years of scanning the Internet for lathe attachments and the likes, I have seen may be two units for sale. Ah, and one more important point to watch out, when buying a lathe: ideally, you want to have zero-ing dials on the handwheels. That makes turning to pre-defined points without calculating so much easier. On the hand, once you have a lathe, you can perhaps retro-fit them yourself - a lathe is a self-replicating tool.
  7. Remember that double-slotted collets, such as the ER-type are designed for holding tools or round stock. The material has to go through the whole length of the collet or nearly so. Pieces of less than half the length of the collet cannot be securely clamped, as tightening the collet has the tendency to squeeze the part out of the collet ... there is also the risk of damaging the collet in this way.
  8. Perhaps neither, but sheet-metal ? At that time die-pressed semi-relief sheet-metal ads were common. The design was added in form of decals and then burnt-in, as was done for porcelain.
  9. Well, this slot under the lowest bulwark-plank seems to have common feature on smaller vessels all around the Baltic and Scandinavia, particularly, when the water-way was more or less flush with the deck. I have seen many original vessels and models like this. Another option would have been hinged freeing ports that were locked in fine weather with a latch. The freeing ports are essentially the lowest bulwark-plank divided into sections that are individually hinged. I will discuss this particular feature in the forthcoming post on my building-log for a Rahschlup. In the 1870s seaboots commonly would not have been rubber although such boots seem to have been manufactured since the middle of the century. They were oiled leather, above knee-length and had either wooden or heavy leather soles with hob-nails. In the Arctic, rubber-boots would have been impractical, as the rubber becomes stiff and brittle, prone to cracking and also conducts heat much better than leather - cold feet guaranteed in spite of heavy woolen socks.
  10. A topic one can discuss for hours and there are already several threads on this topic here on the forum. As @toolmaker said, the first thing to do is to make a list of the enveloppe you think you will need and of the capabilities required - then go for a lathe about twice the size. One always underestimates the distance between centres and swing needed (BTW, in the US the 'swing', i.e. the maximum diameter of parts is given, while in Europe it is the centre height, i.e. the height above the bed or the radius!). The next key question is, whether you think that one day you may want to cut threads: neither old Unimat nor the Taig doesn't have this capability ex-factory, but there are several suggestions for retro-fitting on the Internet; the Sherline has this as an extra to be purchased; the medium to larger PROXXON models and the the Cowells ME lathe have the capability build in; the various modern Chinese lathes have this capability, but (plastic) change-wheels may need to be purchased as an extra; classical watchmaking lathes do not need thread-cutting capability, but it was offered for some of the WW-type models (Lorch, Schmidt & Co., Wolf, Jahn & Co., Boley, Leinen, and Levin), but prices on the secondhand-market tend to be astronomical. Personally, I prefer working with collets, rather than three- or four-jaw chucks. Much safer and much better repeatability. Not all lathes have a spindle-cone to take in collets, for some so-called collet-chucks are/were available (Unimat, Proxxon). The Sherline has a spindle-cone and a limited range of collets is available, but with an adapter, standard WW-type watchmaking collets can used (available from Sherline, albeit not the same quality as the original ones). On watchmaking lathes collets are a standard feature. The 'feel' while working with the handwheels or ball-cranks is important, how smooth are the spindles and what about backlash (the amount you can turn the wheel before a movement of the slide occurs), can it be adjusted? Related to this is how smoth the slides work and how well the adjustment via gib-strips work. These features can vary from individual lathe to individual lathe. For me these are crucial features to achieve good results. Another question to consider is, whether one has the space for a permanent set-up or has to move the lathe into storage after use. In the latter case, the Chinese and larger PROXXON lathes are probably out, because they tend to be too large and heavy. The old-time Unimat came with a nice storage case, as did normally all watchmaking lathes. Otherwise, the Sherline and Taig seem to be quite mobile. And one more thing to consider: the cost of (quite essential) accessories, such as chucks, collets, tooling etc. can be as high as the basic lathe. BTW, engine and watchmaking lathes in their 'modern' form have been around since the 1870s to 1880s, not only since the 1920s. Strangely enough many watchmakers/-repairers today still prefer to work with handgravers rather than sliderests with toolbits (as on engine lathes) - this works for the generally short workpieces they need, but making multiple parts to the same dimensions with this method is a pain unless you are well-practiced. The handgraver together with a so-called T-rest (inexplicably expensive attachment to the Sherline ...) is excellent for shaping parts such as bells. Another point: Babbitt-bearings to the best of my knowledge were never used on such small machine tools. They were not suited to the high speeds at which these machines commonly run (typically between 1000 and 5000 rpm) and probably would not be precise enough. Cheaper machines originally used lapped bronze cone-bearings in which hard steel spindles ran, while the high-end watchmaking lathes have glass-hard steel cone-bearings in which glass-hard steel spindles run. Today model-engineering lathes usually have either a combination of radial and axial ball-bearings or taper roller-bearings that take up both, axial and radial loads.
  11. I noticed this feature on the bridges of 'modern' (from my point of view) ships, but never thought about their purpose and function. Thanks for the explanation, makes perfect sense to use the Venturi-effect for deflecting the air-stream.
  12. Very French looking crowd indeed and the scene comes together 👍🏻 Talking about moustaches, while they give some of the characters their 'Frenchness', I thought since Ypres 1915 big moustaches were against the regulations designed to fit gas-masks tightly, which is why post-war big moustaches went out of fashion.
  13. You made me blush ... Anyway, your paint samples above seem to be extemely expensive. I don't know anything about artmaterial prices in the USA, but here in Europe I would probably not want to pay more than something in the order of 10€. Watch out for 'study' acrylics, that tend to be cheaper, though the pigment may not have been as finely ground as for the top-notch paints - but that is good enough for modelling. Her colour-scheme was already a bit outdated at the time, as in the last quarter of the 19th century black with some white trimmings began to prevail. Bevor, it was common to have coloured hulls, mainly green and blue, besides black, but the wales were often scraped and oiled, and acompanied by strakes in white, sometimes red, or on black hulls in green or blue - at least over here in Europe. Norway may have retained the colourful schemes for longer to brighten the short winter days 😉
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