popeye the sailor

quite a display you have there fantastic ! they really look great

I have the nine o nine nose art with the kit Jack........I haven't looked it up to see if it was another viable option. I've seen your strat before...it wasn't like that one.........I wish I could remember more. all I know is that I wouldn't have been able to build it in my bedroom I bookmarked the site cool pictures OC........some really nice detail to work with......especially the color. very few were camo.........and most were the army green. b 17f's also had windows for the navigator as well thank you so much for these superb pictures.......if I get a chance, I'll snap some pictures of the B 25 kit, and show you what it looks like. it's the Revell kit in 1:48 scale I looked up that site Mark and Lou........what a gold mine! came up with a bunch of sites........even a Wiki. List of surviving Boeing B-17 Flying Fortresses - Wikipedia the Memphis Belle is in here too thanks again for the interest

I forget Jack........we're talk'in the 70's . silver and huge is about all I can remember. pictures are cool........bring 'em on!

I knew I'd screw something up! I read that book while in school I used to watch 12 o'clock high...right along with the Rat Patrol . I hadn't looked to extensively at the instructions Lou.......I guess the wheels are back on the table {so to speak}. there is nothing for the bombay doors.......molded shut. I guess for the modeler with more time than I plan to put into her, there might be some resin or after market parts that could be ordered for it. as for damage........in the links, there are pictures of some pretty significant damage done to these planes when they came home. here's the plane I intend to try and model. one day during training, the co pilot brought her in a little too hard and collapsed the right landing gear. the pilot quickly took over and nosed her up, taking back off again. he brought her around for an emergency landing, slowing her down as he came in. the plane suffered practically no additional damage at all. it must have been like hail with shell casings falling from the sky........likely would hurt if one got pinged by one. what is it........newton's law?.........that anything that falls from the sky can only go as fast as it's weight allows? I'll get my umbrella I've always been a fan of the B 24 Mark.........Liberators just look cool at the old 606 hobby store that I used to frequent as a lad, they had a stratofortress hanging from the rafters. I have never in my life, seen a model as huge as that one! won't even attempt to guess the wingspan! I plan on adding a B 24 to the pile one day.....I have to be crafty, since the admiral is really digging her heels in now so in large........thanks for the interest perhaps I should have the admiral order me that book.......then I can get reacquainted with the Ruptured Duck and the journey this bomber crew went on. if I recall, a couple of the boys died in the crash should I make any progress done on her, I'll be sure to post it!

thanks Lou........I've done nothing yet, other than to clean some of the flash. I have decided a couple of things already.........since I have the stand, I will delete the wheels. given the premise I've got going, they would be retracted {can't think of the term for this}.......and closed up. I don't normally add the figures either, but I may do so here. these planes could take a beating.........some accounts tell of bombs smashing through wings from above. anti aircraft damage was extensive on some, but they managed to bring them home. the show on HBO was really good!

another thing I like about the model, is that it supplies a stand! 👍 what was the last model you built, that had a stand? many models could benefit from having a stand to display it.........the B 25 could, that's for sure! I saw how Revell remedied the problem ..........what amounts to a saw horse with a tab on it......... I already decided to either make a stand for it, or balance the model so it will set on it's wheels. it has the 'weighted tire detail' .....but this highlights different planes. some have a tail gear or nose gear....the latter being the bigger culprit of this particular problem. when I built my F 15 Eagle, I made up a simulated asphalt platform and cemented the tires to it.....solve the problem for that one but here..........you have the B 17 ........which has a tail gear. you would think that they would take this into account, when handing out the stands. the stand is kinda neat though.........molded in clear plastic. there's a piece of bendable metal rod in the box........took me a moment what it would be used for. now I know I was going to paint it, but was undecided what color.......then I got an idea. I got on the computer and looked up bomb damage in Germany.......found a couple of good pictures. this was printed off and the stand was positioned over it for the best view from above. a 1/16 circle of basswood was traced and cut out.........the desired area was cemented to the circle.........careful not to smudge the picture. once dry, it was trimmed and cemented to the bottom of the stand. this was put in a plastic bag, to keep it dust free......I haven't really started on the model yet. I wasn't going to do a formal log on the model, due to the detail issues and stuff. I thought the stand was a nifty thing to do and though I would share it with you. anyway........since I've opened up this thread, should I do something that even looks brilliant, I'll pass it along to you. I think this is my first plane log here. oh! before I forget, this kit comes with a poster! I've heard folks in the past....rave about the kit box art. I never gave it a though..........as long as the kit wasn't a pain in the tookus to build. I do agree though, that the box art was part of my deciding factors for buying a kit. I've had a few car kits that included one as well {more like a postcard, actually}. I should find a frame for the stagecoach.........I cut the flaps off the box and hung it on the wall as well. oldmodelkits was nice enough to send along the top part of the box when I got it. I couldn't find a 12" X 24" frame that was cheap. until next time............. has anyone ever read "Thirty seconds over Tokyo"?

I've been wanting to get a few bombers to add to my collection. my #1 plane are Bi planes, but my second are prop planes......fixed wing aircraft. I picked up the Revell B25 Mitchell, which should be fun to build........I've picked up this kit the other day. I went and bought another Amazing air airbrush kit, after not being too successful finding the caps for my older set up. I've seen it before in my travels, but was hesitant to pick it up, since Lindberg wasn't know for possessing that 'certain detail' that other model manufacturers put into their kits. I was never a huge Lindberg fan.....but I enjoyed dabbling with the motorized kits and ships. they had a good run with the B17 kits, probably their most prolific subject. some were even motorized........not sure the sequence in which the kits came out........I'd likely drive myself nuts trying to establish a time line. these two were probably their later production, since they highlight them as a series. the 'firepower series' was an interesting one......although I didn't go into it to see how many different plane made it up. when Lindberg went out of business and was bought up by Round 2 models, they carried the premise out a step further.........they focused on the nose art. the sad thing about the kit however, is that homework still wasn't done on the decal markings. I found a few reviews on the kit, and this seemed to be one of the biggest gripes. I'm not sure about the preceding kits, but the markings don't even point to any particular squadron. the kit gives a generous number of different planes one can model.......this is where I started my search.........trying to what bona-fied planes could be modeled. I found this site: Nose Art and Ground Crews one evening, I was receiving my daily dose of 'brainwash' on the tube, and I stumbled onto a show about the 452 bomber group and the missions they flew over Germany.........amazing to hear their accounts ans what they went through. I did some digging here too, and came up with this.......too bad the kit doesn't have any of their nose art. 452nd Bomb Group | American Air Museum in Britain one particular piece of supplied nose art has some real potential.......I jotted down some marking particulars of the Thunderbirds. Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress | Lone Star Flight Museum some I found nothing on.........I had another site that covered other planes, but I forgot to bookmark it {DRAT!}.......but I will keep looking. of the kit, one thing that Round 2 did right, was to box art the plane in it's traditional Olive Green, rather than in Tan Brown, in which Lindberg did. one kit shown above was totally chrome........a unique kit, but must have been a trial to keep finger prints from showing up. this kit is molded in white plastic........ ....with a somewhat sad excuse for instructions it is void of some cool detail though, as outlined in the reviews. I'm sure that one adept at bashing, can dress 'er up to create a better model this is not to say that the model is a waste of time.......it's just that if your one who likes a lot of detail........it probably isn't the model kit your looking for. I know this kinda looks like a review of my own, but rather it's more of an over view as to what I possibly could do to enhance the model. yea.......the decals are nice.........and interesting.........but may not do the correct justice to the model, being as shiny as they are. I've not done it too often, but a dulling clear coat afterwards might knock down the sheen. as I complied all this wonderful information, I occupied myself with cleaning up parts and trimming flash

the fore shrouds look really good they are time consuming....don't feel too terrible about it....just think how good they will look and the task will seem less tedious. fantastic job on this model.......

made a little headway on the lighthouse...........getting into the fun stuff now. setting up the screw pile, the support pillars were cemented into place. it's a tiny bit off.........and no matter where I place the line level, it sends it of in another direction. I need to support it from the bottom. I didn't want to cut those pieces of supplied wood......I could probably use them in some other way. since I have plenty of dowel, I cut six of them to the length of the center support. they were arranged on a spare piece of plywood. with the bottom section in place on the new jig, it leveled out the deck nicely. these will all get cemented into place. with that done, it's time for the truss cables. I'll be honest..........they are a pain in the tookus! I'd better get the inner ones done first

perfect!

awesome looking model! great camo

amazing how identical these frames are.......well know that cloning is a practice of plastic model manufacturers. wood kits show this practice, but not as common. what are those parts {4} called at the foot of the frames? I notice that the one set up for transit doesn't have them.

superb job with the logs.........the added detail is awesome!

awesome looking model

what else?..........the swampland in Louisiana had already been sold ..... I put the alternator and idler pulley in late yesturday afternoon {possible pun.......could be?!?!}. I took the day off today so I can be around in case he needs help. if you see massive smoke to the northeast..........no worries, it's just my garage burning down BTW......how do you contact the DHC, to let them know it isn't a terrorist attack?

quite an extensive PE set you have there....looks great!

they are not too bad........since the wood barrel is bare wood, simply sand around the hoops and restain. wait a day or so to be sure the paint has cured completely

really cool

flak bait is also what you call the stripes on the wings and fuselage I have been doing some research on nose art......I came up with an interesting site Nose Art and Ground Crews I'm aware that it's also the nick name of a B26 Maurader. I had another site that had names for other aircraft.......didn't bookmark the darn thing

no........my son the music nut! he put in one of those high-falut'in amplifiers in his truck. I reminded him that the folks that are into this kind of stuff, usually upgrade the battery and alternator to make up for the extra power needed to run it. he said he knew.............OK the funny part came when he started up the truck....ran fine.....'cept he didn't have dash lights....... it's a long story...........a rather costly one at that. gets an alternator specially made and shipped from Michigan, only to find out it doesn't fit his truck! I asked him if he checked out anyone local.............he said no so he went through the cost of sending it back......and a week or two later, get told that they can't help him. of course, it was me putting it in, so I had to be the one to discover that the casing and 'bolt ears' were off. luckily, he got his money back and was able to fins a place closer to home to have one made up.........with the correct casing {I gave 'em the specs}. the alternator will put out 240 amps.....stock is 130 amps. then he tells me the other day that he had to get another battery.......I ask him why. there are no hold downs on the one he bought, and that he bought a 'series' battery. I said "what?!?!?!" who fed you that nonsense? he's no running multiple batteries and no matter how he sets it up, it will be tied to the charging system. "how much did you pay for that battery?" $240.00 was his reply. upon hearing that............I tried to sell him something

thanks OC........haven't made any this week though. other thing have taken the front burner. on the other hand......we just went through the spare room and reduced a lot of clutter. this could equate to more room for modeling I went down in the cellar to get some empty bins..........my god!.......found the cardboard roll that has all my music posters in! on top of that........Kevin's Alternator for his #*@%& truck is here WHOOHOO! ....now that god forsaken monolith can leave my garage!

I have a friend who retired from the Portsmouth Naval shipyard......if I see him, I'll ask about that. should be an interesting discussion I didn't notice it, but you finished it on my birthday kinda special.

glad to see you back at the table

some nice work there ........padlocks look neat!

flak bait! paint job looks super! that's the Revell B 17, am I correct? I bought the Lindberg B 17 nose art edition. unless you want to do a lot of modifying and hunt for the correct decals...don't bother with it. it does come with a stand though........I haven't built one with a stand for a number of years.