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Stains from water are usually superficial and sand off easily.
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Looks good to my eye on paper, Maury! Just avoid a butt one strake below the drop strake end, if that light line represents one. (Use the usual three strake rule if a butt is required).
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I applaud your attitude to the learning process, Steven. It's a good one! We all learn from our mistakes and experience (if we persist) and each model is better than the previous one. Your current model is an ambitious project, and you should be proud of what you have accomplished so far. Many others would simply have given up and taken up a different hobby.
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Coming along well, Maury. Getting a nice planking result does take time, but is well worth it in the end.
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Congratulations on this signal recognition, E&T! I'm sure it's been a pressure cooker for you. Your model looks great.
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druxey replied to piratepete007's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Thank you, Duff, for taking my comments in the spirit that they were intended. One of the joys of this forum is the courteous manner in which we usually exchange ideas. I still have not run down my reference for this tapering, but a distance of 8' 0" to 10' 0" sticks in my mind. Still hunting! I agree with you that there would be geographical, temporal and national variations in construction. Oh, for that time machine! -
This has been an interesting discussion, gentlemen. There is still a considerable debate of push-and-pull in conservation circles. However, conservation is just that; retaining as much of the original object or artifact as possible. This, to me, is distinct from restoration, where original or missing material is replaced by new. It should be clear to a practised eye what is original and what is not. Also, any treatment should be fully reversible without damage to the original. All work should be fully documented as well. Full disclosure: my own views are consonant with Maturin's.
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druxey replied to piratepete007's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Sorry, Duff, but I beg to differ. Under that planking was an incredibly strong set of bow timbers and cant frames, backed by the inner planking. Compound curved surfaces are much stronger than relatively flat sides (think of an eggshell). And now Pat (Banyan) has provided a contemporary example of this taper. -
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druxey replied to piratepete007's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Steel (Naval Architecture, Directions for the actual building, p.379) says: "Harpins are sawed to the moulds' (italics mine). I cannot locate my reference for the plank tapering at the bow at present, but examination of contemporary models show these planks hooding into the bow rabbet in a smooth line continuous with the bottom planking. There is no change in thickness at the rabbet. -
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druxey replied to piratepete007's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
As I understand it, the thicker planks, such as the wales, were tapered in thickness as they bent around to the bow rabbet. This would have assisted in any steam bending required. It would be unlikely that the pieces were sawn to shape for a number of reasons. First, reduction in strength with cross-grained areas. Second, exposed end grain that would be more susceptible to rot. Third, wastage of valuable wood in processing. -
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druxey replied to piratepete007's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
The harpin is simply the curved foremost part of the ribband. And the old-fashioned 's' is referred to as the 'long s'. It was used exactly as Pete describes. -
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druxey replied to marsalv's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
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QAR Conservation/Salvage Project Poster by Arianna DiMucci
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Thanks, Maturin. Books and paper? That is a specialty indeed. -
QAR Conservation/Salvage Project Poster by Arianna DiMucci
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Figuring out the shift of planking is always a 'do-over' task to make things fit well! However, it's usually three strakes between each butt, not two.
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