Kevin

good afternoon everyone

been a crap week model making wise, loosing the SD14 and then abandoning the POW, but that's just modelling, for others there are far more important things in life to worry about 

i have brought the Bluebell back to the bench, took me a few hours to get back into it, the biggest difference between when it was put away and now is the airbrush

made up a few depth charges, and played with some wood effect, 

1 hour ago, dancooper said:

I'm so sorry to hear that, but I as well do understand. However I hope you are still going to continue working on her off grid... maybe when you are in a later phase you might still share pictures.

off grid maybe it certainly is not going to landfill, it's not terrible, just not a standard i wish to share 

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good evening everyone

i feel like Adel

i am going to have to pull out of this build, i am unable to produce this kit into a standard that I am happy to share with you

Sorry

4 hours ago, allanyed said:

Interesting subject Kevin.   I remember studying these ships in the Naval Architecture class and wish I still had my old books, but do not recall this subject (it has been close to 60 years)    I did find this paper which is quite interesting but see nothing about the rudder design to help you, sorry.    https://ww2.eagle.org/content/dam/eagle/publications/company-information/workhorse-of-the-fleet-2019.pdf

thank you, i will read that when i get a chance

2 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

Kevin,

 

That’s called a ContraGuide rudder.   It is shaped that way to straighten flow from the propeller.

 

The propeller works by accelerating a column of water behind the ship.  The reaction to this column of water, Newton’s Third Law, is a force in the opposite direction that pushes the ship ahead. Water, however, is viscous and this viscosity causes the water in the column from the propeller to rotate.   This rotation is lost energy.  The offsets on the rudder are intended to introduce a vector opposite to that of the rotating water column, to recover the lost energy.

 

Roger

 

 

thank you,

rereading the reply it wasnt two rudders then with independent movement, it was two welded together offset

so how was this solved,

was it better propeller design, two props, twin rudders?

Just now, ccoyle said:

Looks like the kit artwork includes some subtle weathering.

yes it does, and its not over the top, lol it hides my mistakes

Good evening everyone

day 3/71

well i certainly would not recommend this kit to myself  as a starter kit, its requires  completely different skillsets  to anything i have attempted before, and some of the mistakes i have made today reflect the fact i didnt have a clue what i am doing

it took me ages to work out that each laser cut card is covered on all sides, if it can be seen, lol i had all these duplicate shapes with different images printed on them

the paper is not forgiving if a mistake is made on folding the crease opens up and exposes the fibres

yep school boy errors, but work continues

the card top deck is placed on, which stops any twisting in the hull

the printed top deck followed after the glue dries

the rest of the day was spent putting the wrap on wallpaper onto the superstructure, which caused me a few issues

some of the edges look messy, i hope to sort these out somehow

saw a photo today on another forum that the WW2 liberty ships had a top and bottom rudder, but i dont know why?, was it an adjustable setting to offset a poor build , ie to enable a straight line/course heading?

good evening everyone

thank you for comments and likes, and welcome to new followers (im the guy who never finishes anything)

day 2/71

well the bottom half of the hull also went on ok, it is clearly marked where the frames go, as for the centre line, it is straighter than anything i have build before

all the laser cut pieces were pushed out and filed, then i decided to use them to build up some of the superstructure,

i need to find a decent log now from somewhere and work out what to do with the upper deck, there is a card template that fits over the bulkheads and then the printed deck fits over that,  i just need some guidance as to whether to fix the deck sheet to the card template , then stick the two on top or if they need to be done separately (dont suppose it matter)

i even had a go at the funnel, its quite hard on the eyes

fun factor 10/10

laser cut superstructure 

funnel instructions

4 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Based on your ability  and  the  inherent  difficulties with card  kits   - this could be  one of  your very best builds   - take it steady  Kevin.

 

OC.

thank you OC

4 hours ago, Dave_E said:

I don’t know anything about the “card” side of ship modeling. I’m pulling up a chair to see how it’s 

done, (no pressure). 😁

knowing me, very badly

5 hours ago, ccoyle said:

Here, Kevin -- I have created a Polish-English dictionary for you based on my "extensive working knowledge" of the language:

 

• okrety: ship
• klej: glue
• drut: wire

Okay, that's all I know. For the rest, you're on your own. 😜

 

Brilliant, thats made my day  thank you

this is a 1/200 card/paper kit from GPM, it comes with the hull and superstructure in laser cut formers, which are marked very well to place the bulkheads

the large book contains lots of instructions (all in Polish) (which is my 2nd language NOT) and pages of identifications of the 2nd 1/2 of the book which is the actual kit

a few photos to show contents and a start has been made, yep bigger than the freezer 

after the accident yesterday with the SD14, i still wanted to continue with the 90 day group build i was taking part in on another forum, i had bought this incase the SD14 wasnt allowed due to being a 1/3 of a kit 

anyway i started it tonight and see how i get on, its not the same as the Marcle kit, this actually has some detail in it

taken from wikki

HMS Prince of Wales was a King George V-class battleship of the Royal Navy that was built at the Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead, England. She had an extensive battle history, first seeing action in August 1940 while still being outfitted in her drydock when she was attacked and damaged by German aircraft. In her brief but storied career, she was involved in several key actions of the Second World War, including the May 1941 Battle of the Denmark Strait where she scored three hits against the German battleship Bismarck, forcing Bismarck to abandon her raiding mission and head to port for repairs. Prince of Wales later escorted one of the Malta convoys in the Mediterranean, and then attempted to intercept Japanese troop convoys off the coast of Malaya as part of Force Z when she was sunk on 10 December 1941, two days after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

She was sunk alongside her consort, the battlecruiser HMS Repulse, by Japanese bombers when they became the first capital ships to be sunk solely by air power on the open sea, a harbinger of the diminishing role this class of ships was subsequently to play in naval warfare. The wreck of Prince of Wales lies upside down in 223 feet (68 m) of water, near Kuantan, in the South China Sea.

just watched, very interesting

BBC Two - Why Ships Crash

perhaps the phoenix will be an appropriate name

Good morning everyone

i was bitterly upset and very grumpy last night, and felt extremely silly with myself, it was nothing more than tripping over my own feet, as i swung around off my bench, 

the damage is/was completely beyond repair, i looked to see if the keel was fit to use, even the floor had ripped as my full weight went through the frames

Anyway, what to do next

well the Admiral decided for me, just do it again, 

the full kit is on order and being posted today, this thread will be renamed and i will just restart a full build

5 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

Hope your able to recover from this Kevin  - I know I would  have been gutted  and boy would the air have been Blue.

 

OC.

unable to recover this build my friend, 

thanks guys, its the end of this build, but not the end of the SD14 story

yes im fine just gutted, i was thoroughly enjoying that

the build came to a sudden and abrupt end this afternoon, moving it to the freezer for my daily update, i tripped and fell on it RIP stern section SD14

10 minutes ago, Jim Lad said:

Only a hundred frames/  Shouldn't take long, mate!

 

John

tell the truth it dont look much different to sat photo, and honest I put loads of transverse frames in today,

i can  honestly say that this has been really enjoyable build so far, and if given the chance i would do all 3 sections together with open frames and no hull plates  

good evening everyone

day17/90

the build is now going from 28" to 38 as i have taken another section from the redundant midships section, not fixed yet

everything is now starting to fall into place including the stern as the transom gets fixed into position

i now have in excess of 100 frames to fix into position so i know what i will be doing tomorrow

lots of useful tips here

and on the 16th day @Kevin took the day off