Kevin

taken in the late 60's early 70's

late time i build a fly thing

good morning everyone

thank you for the help on this subject

so far this morning i have come up with this, looks so much tidier, and seams to work

3 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

you could go that route....it looks Ok.   I think though that it employs a few different materials and might not last too long before coming apart.  how about you keep the turn buckles the way you have them,  and when you rig them.....     slide small brass rings to create a loop in the cable,  trapping the turn buckle in the loop.   cement or anchor them in place on the deck.   then tighten the cables within the rings and apply a bit of solder or CA when the proper tension is achieved.

lol bit tired tonight, im trying to visualise how that  will work, i will give some thought during doggie walkies, be back soon

good evening everyone

have i got this right

i have tried. although room for improvement to adapt a turnbuckle to hold a replicated cable in place without the need to tie the rope/wire off

any suggestions appreciated,  

27 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Will this ever actually see water or is it a static display.   That's an impressive amount of work to get everything working and lit up.

all the running gear is in place she will  see water soon, for test trails and ballasting

5 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Rats... pity that as it would have made the tightening and adjustment so much easier.

Mark i could make some, well i say make, i could chop the threaded bits off and push them into a hollow tube, BUT am i doing the wrong setup for this build, should it be deadeyes like on the foremast

3 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Hmm... just curious, Kevin.   Regarding the tensioning... do the turnbuckles actually work?  

no Mark, just 1 piece white metal

15 minutes ago, Jim Lad said:

Kevin, I'm a bit late on this discussion, but steel wire rope was usually a very dark grey unless very new.  That might give you a few more options.  I would suggest that a trawler of your model's age would have shroud eyes spliced around thimbles - easily done by the crew.

 

John

i wonder how Mountfleet got this wrong, and have these aft and deadeyes fwd

On 2/16/2020 at 7:49 AM, DanielD said:

Thanks ASAT! I have really enjoyed this level 2 (beginner) model and I love the double hull design. I have my eye on a level 3, the HMS Terror, but not sure yet. I’m open to suggestions...

my second build was the Royal Caroline by panart

https://www.mantuamodel.co.uk/products/ship-kits/panart/443/royal-caroline-detail

hope this comes out, rigging and aerials left to do, then ballasting

ooooo a fly thingy

lol looking good OC

that is absolutely fantastic

lovely work

Good evening everyone

Thank you for like and comments

there was certainly far more reference material for the Victory, there are tons lots of phots of trawlers but they lack any detail, but i try to proceed onwards

the shrouds, certainly appear to be wire on the after ones hence the turnbuckels so i have been playing with thread and various colours of grey and silver, the one in the final shot is a warhammer silver and will see how this goes

next will be ratlines, i am still undecided if i should  go with wooden slats or wire, or the same as the shrouds

31 minutes ago, yvesvidal said:

Kevin,

 

How about soaking the ropes in warm water for a little while, placing them under tension to the best of your abilities and then let them dry. A dry rope is always shorter than a wet rope.

Old barometric devices were based on that principle.

 

Yves

im trying to replicate wire rope by using it, but the mast is very flexible, as i replaced it from wood to plastic tubing so as to run electrics through it, so it is very difficult to get any decent tension on it

the rope is fine, but i want it to look like wire

good afternoon, and welcome to MSW

i had a light bulb moment, but it dont work

i stripped back some wire, and twisted the strands, but unless i make new adjustable turnbuckles, i am unable to get a decent tension, so it is try again

good morning everyone

thank you for the comments

there is a deadeye arrangement set up for the fore mast and these turnbuckles for the after one, again i presume that it is a mixture to allow removing the mast for transport to shows and ponds

so on the main mast there are 3 shrouds and the back stays, i dont have are wire that would pass the test, could a silver stained rope representing wire pass?

the fore mast is going to be a while away

if i get something that resembles the wire i could ten use them as ratlines, but will not get the tautness, so maybe a single wire would work, go go to wooden battens

lol any suggestions?

this is Mountfleets show kit

not progressed much at all since the last update, lol i dont think im confused so much now, 

the main mast is supported by stays, but very few is any show any ratlines, 

the instructions do say that the shrouds can be adapted to enable the mast to be removed for transportation purposes, so from that i presume from that no one went to the trouble, even though the superstructure is removable

mine will have ratlines, again the instructions call out for wire to make them, is this right?

lovely build, and lots of fantastic off topic tales (or donkey tails)  to go with it

if someone told me tomorrow, no more ship building ever, then this is what i would love to do

lovely project

51 minutes ago, Mirabell61 said:

Very nice looking build Kevin,

 

also the boats are kooking lovely.....

 

Nils

Thank you Nils

wow she looks fantastic, sorry i have not been keeping up with your progress

Good morning everyone

apart from the handling ropes the life boats are finished,

i put everything in place according to the plans, and secured in position, however the forward drum reels are set  to far aft to be of use, it looked tight even on the plans, after looking at other builds and seeing the same issue they got moved about 1cm to make them more usable, i may have to move the after hatches now as they might not have enough room

the middle picture drum reels are in place according to the plans, but in reality are to far aft to be of use

reels after being moved, dont quite know what to do about the stain damage on the wood

4 hours ago, lmagna said:

You have already modeled two B-17s, one  with gear down and both with closed bomb bay. Not only would hanging from the shelf above save space and allow all three to be shown together it would allow you to have the bomb bay open. Possibly even with bombs falling out!

 

or above a fire place

here is another story, of a captured German Submarine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Graph