juhu
-
Posts
265 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Events
Everything posted by juhu
-
Hi all, I would like to ask fo the help with planking treenails / iron bolts for deck and hull planking for a gloucester fishing schooner ca. 1880. I am building Smuggler kit from BlueJacket (1/4 or 1:48 scale), but prefer not to paint it, rather let the natural wood to be seen and some faithfull representation of plank fastenings would help. A) Deck Here I am somehow confused. On a few historical shots actually no treenails are visible. I assume, the bolts were hidden under some kind of wooden plugs, not visible against the deck structure? Also on restored fishing schooner below, there is absolutely no treenail, no plug, nothing visible. I really do not know, how are the deck planks attached. Would it be then best to leave any fastenings off completely? I guess those nice treenails lines seen on many models are appropriate for earlier ships, may be not for these fishermen? B ) Hull Here I guess it would be simplier. Small drilled holes might be suitable representation of presumably iron or steel bolts used to fix hull planks? Any ideas or hints are highly appreciated!
-
Hm, no such experience. I would expect, particularly if the wood has been stored long enough to get dry, it shall cause no major problems over time. After all, it is glued properly, not a big mass of wood that should shrink and you got it under some protective lacquer coat I guess? Crossed fingers. (Parádna stavba, dúfam, že ju stihneš dokončiť, lebo ver mi, aj keď dostaviaš ten dom, po príchode potomka na modelárčenie zabudni na pekne dlhý čas )
- 108 replies
-
- 1
-
-
- armed virginia sloop
- model shipways
- (and 1 more)
-
Hi. Am not any expert, but what I know, on Roman warships there were often moveable bridges on the prove used for "aboardage" - after the ship hit the enemy, the bridge was lowered (it had some kind of iron hooks that would bite to the enemy ship's deck) so the infantry could board the ship. Romans were not so keen sailors and when possible, to fight as on the land was preferred. Check this. Could this be that strange thing, of course, simplified by the artist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvus_(boarding_device)
-
Just by chance, any news about this? Have searched all the Czech model kit companies on the web that I could think of, but this project seems to be top secret - no sign of anything. And as we have end of August, has anybody else noticed something?
-
Despite the number of the kits, imho the answer is simple: From the existing model the most accurate and the best offer with respect to the quality would be Jotika / Caldercraft. If the space and time is no problem for you, I would wait for this.... hard to say yet if it will be the best option, but looks very interesting...
-
Hm... I guess you mean only hull length then? Because Caldercraft's Endeavour, which is 1/64 scale, is listed as 725mm long Taking that a s a base, this one shall be like 966mm long in total?
-
Thanks for sharing this interesting info. Would it be possible to tell who is the manufacturer? Being from neigbouring country and modeling plastic kits for years I truly wonder which of the producers would venture into this kind of business. From the pictures presented it looks interesting - even tappered deck planks are presented, which is not standard on commercial kits (thumbs up!). On the other hand, deck planking seems to be straith, not curved (if truly so, thumbs down a bit). Eager to see more!
-
This looks very interesting! I see you choose to cut off the bulwarks completely and replace them with stripe rather than tricky chiselling in order to get desired thickness. I may to apply the same in my case. Was thinking about it but was afraid of the results. How did you achieve the smooth and regular run of this new bulwark, if there is no inner support helping to follow the shape? Do you plan to plank or paint the hull? Thx
-
The video itself is nice and I found it longer time ago when trying to find any more info on the kit. But as said, am not sure whether the all wooden model presented in video is what is in the kit. The kit looks just great, still, for the given price, am still eagerly waiting to see the real box content photo, manual, description on wood used etc... Well, hobby is about patience :)
-
Renderings look very good. But as said, too early to judge before seing the built model or at least box content. Is it POB or some 3D printed hull etc? Length 81cm is very nice, fits my display case, what would be the height of the model? The expectations are high, but so is the price tag, so lets see what's in it.
-
AL Le renard and Dusek le Cerf information needed
juhu replied to Adrenalin19991's topic in Wood ship model kits
Indeed, if historical accuracy is concerned, better to avoid AL (and unfortunatelly several other european producers) Dusek would be better - there is also a monography for LeCerf available (search google for Ancre publications) Other very popular suggestion would be Armed Virginia Sloop by model Shgipways ( also it will keep you within ~ 1:48 scale as your already finished model). This one is quite nicely researched and should fit your size requirements too.- 1 reply
-
- 1
-
-
Very first entry in this list? https://modelshipworld.com/topic/181-banned-kit-manufacturers-on-msw-pirated-kits-prohibited/?tab=comments#comment-1322
-
Hm,,,,, this is strange. My Smuggler kit includes very, very detailed step by step instructions (by Erik Ronneberg) I cannot see the book in your pics, may be your package was not delivered complete?
-
Hi Glenn, came accroos your thread, being attracted by the strange scale you mentioned. Kudos, you are only the second person on the web I have found who measured the kit and came to the same conclusion: the scale is totally off. Not a suprise, considering Artesania Latina "reputation" , still not nice. And I admit, this prevents me from buying the kit, seeing 1/48-1/50 as a must. Nevertheless, am keen on seeing the progress on this beautiful ship! Regards Juraj
-
IMHO, although period ship kit with all guns out like an angry hedgehog is the most typical way how to build the kit, in reality I think the ship did not have enough crew to control the guns on the both sides at once, so I would assume even in ideal position, just before the shot, only one side would be out. Also, in the heat of battle I assume it may well happen that only some guns are out: the gun, if barrel loaded from the front needs to be in, then moved to the outer positien just before the shot. I think if you keep the lids closed or opened and just left a pair of guns out, cannot be an issue. But let's see what will others suggest...
-
Hi Allison, just a remark: waiting for Caldercraft's Surprise could mean you will wait forever. Seems they stopped the development of the kit years ago. Remember, Surprise became popular only because of that famous movie - and this is now almost forgotten in the past, hardly can be a selling point for the kit, if finished. Also, Suprise IMHO is not the best looking or interesting ship that one could buy. If you want to stick with Jotika and have some really beautiful Frigate, why not to gof for their Diana? I have never build it, I know it may require considerable skills I do not have, but her lines and overall appearance are outstanding. The best english frigate replica one can buy now possibly.
-
Shortly: neither of these resembles any "Surprise" once existing: AL - huge kit that would look great just because of its size, if you have a room for it. If looking as you say for details, what details do you mean? If it does not represent any real ship, we can speak only of factographical errors and AL is really weak when it comes to historical accuracy. Still, finished must be eye catcher. Mamoli - nasty cheat on customers IMHO, nothing more. If you search for Mamoli's model of "Gloire", does not it look like 100% copy of their "Surprise"? I would say so. What is cheaper than to repack the old kit, put there a new, popular name on the box and behold, we have a new kit to sell. Bottom line: Both kits appeared shortly after famous "Master and Commander" movie, both companies tried to make the best money out of the popular "Suprise" ship, not taking any care for poor modellers wanting an accurate replica. So the kit were produced, were produced as fast as possible and this is the result. If seeking for Surprise, check Jotika's web page. Unfortunatelly, they were never able to finish the kit and probably never will :/
-
Well, indeed, but sails can be added. And often more realistic than what is offered directly in the kit. But of course, it is up to you. :)
-
Hi Russ, Two options: 1. What is meant by length? Length overall, length on the waterline, ....? It is quite possible that you have just taken two different data and both can be correct. The best would be to have good blueprints. 2. common issue with European kit producers: their kits are often just a distant resemblance of the original. 1:54 is odd scale anyway. It is very possible that it really does not match as you calculated. Also it is possible, that if you start to measure also other dimensions, you get even more various scale proposals. I had this experience with model Lynx from Panart: they give the scale of 1:62 (sometimes it seems like a competition who comes with the strangest scale :) ). I obtained the copy of the original plan of the real ship and start to measure.... Well, I ended up at scale varying from 1:57 to 1:60, even worse when I compared the overall hull shape and profile, deck arrangement, opining position etc etc.... Sometimes it really seems to me like first the kit is designed and then only the manufacturer thinks, what scale will he print on the box.... Endeavour is quite a popular kit subject. If you want accuracy, go for Caldercraft kit. If you want to build Occre, I would recommend to build it but not to measure - what you get may not please you then.
-
Pleasure to see such a master work. Again and again I am assuring myself, that wooden model ship left in natural wood color is the best looking option, even if the original is painted. Thanks for sharing your build.
- 101 replies
-
- 2
-
-
- L Toile
- Billing Boats
- (and 1 more)
-
Nice idea these sailors, indeed. Although I cannot tell how popular they will be - 1/72 scale is not so common for ship models (like e.g. 1/64) Also, if they were in "admiralty" 1/48 scale, I would probably take one set - not much choices there, I believe just some metal casted sailor set I saw somewhere online from other manufacturer...
-
Beautiful! The ultimate kit in my stash, still waiting for its time - hopefully it comes! Will follow this thread, this is one of the most bueautiful ships ever depicted in model ship kits - and so rarely seen!
-
Thanks for adding the scale and wood. Now I can vote All 3 subjects are great, and am sure there can be dozen others proposals as seen also here For I can imagine to get either Boeier, because it is so unusaual and not covered in this scale by any commercial kit Or I would pick the cross section - only chance to get at least a piece of such a ship, because due to the enourmous size, no chance to ever have a full kit Although great, I would not vote for Chebacco - just because in 1/4 scale one can find several other american fishing vessels from other manufacturers. No Chebacco of course , but more appealing to my eye (e.g Gloucester schooners). Just my oppinion.
-
Hi Chuck, very interesting topic, but what I miss here is the clear scale of the proposed options. Example: I am interested in 1/4 scale (1:48 in metric) scale models, I would vote for dutch little, but 1/2 scale makes it out, but what are the scales of other two? Or did I overlooked some info? If yes am sorry, just thought it could help also the others. Thanks
-
Do not know this re-release, but I was curious to see the content after I saw it in AL catalogue. Well, AL never cared much about any historical accuracy or overall design. It seems from what you wrote, that as with all their newer kits they are simply following their policy: make it cheaper, cheaper, cheaper, but in nice package, so it would sell. Strictly aesthetically speaking, I consider this new longer bowsprit version more eye pleasing than the previous one. Yes, probably due to cheap materials, painting would be necessary though....
Our Emblem ®
