Bomb Vessel Granado by Rustyj - FINISHED - 1:24 - cross-section

[AntonyUK]

Hello Rusty.

I think we are all looking forward to the next installment of your build

 

Regards Antony.

[gjdale]

Welcome home Rusty - looking forward to your next update.

[Rustyj]

Hi all. I've been looking ahead and they don't show treenails for the inboard planking and my feeble mind is

trying to figure out the correct size a treenail should be at this scale. Now if 1/2 inch = 1foot then would

1/16" treenails be 1 1/2" @  scale?

 

Then if that's correct would 1 1/2" treenails be the right size?

 

Help!!!!!!!!  and thanks 

[gjdale]

Rusty,

 

Not sure if I've understood your question correctly, but your maths is correct. That is, if your "real life" tree nail is 1 1/2", then at your chosen scale of 1:24, this would be 1/16". As to whether 1 1/2" tree nails are correct in the first place, I've no idea!

[Rustyj]

Hi Grant, Thanks for confirming my math.

 

Now I have to try and figure out what size treenail to use.

 

One down and one to go.  

[Rustyj]

Ok I did a little experiment. I took a plank that the plans call for that is 13 scale inches wide.

I pulled a treenail to a size 55 on the Byrnes draw plate and it would equate to a little over

1 scale inch. Visually it looks good to me.

 

 

I might try it a little smaller. Maybe ¾ of an inch at scale.

[sonicmcdude]

awesome build in here!!! Nice big scale for more detail.

[Rustyj]

Thanks Sinan.

 

OK the test continues.

 

The treenails on the right are approx 1 1/4 of an inch while the ones on the left are 3/4 of an inch.

 

 

The colors are different because I used scrap wood. The one on the right are closer to what the color will be.

[gjdale]

Hi Rusty,

 

I'm no expert, but the larger ones look "right" to me.

[rafine]

For what it's worth Rusty, my similarly non-expert opinion is the same as Grant's.

 

Bob

[Rustyj]

Grant and Bob thanks for your opinion on the treenails. I too like the larger one.

To me it’s better on the eye. I’ll hold off for a while on making a final decision though.

 

Here I’ve made the false keel. It calls for the top edges to be beveled and to do this I used

the Byrnes table saw with my new tilting table. Once I figured out the angle it worked great.

No surprise there.

 

 

 

I then glued the false keel in place. I used a second piece clamping the ends to hold it in

place. I also put a ¼” thick piece in the middle between the false keel and the second

piece to put pressure there until the glue dried.

 

 

 

Next up will be making the deck clamps and floor riders.

[druxey]

For a vessel of Granado's size 3/4" treenails are correct. However, it's your decision as you are the one that has to be happy with the result! She's looking very good so far.

[Rustyj]

Hi druxey. Thank you for letting me know the correct size! When I get there 3/4" it is!  

[dvm27]

She's looking very sweet, Rusty!

[Rustyj]

Thank you Greg. She's fun so far.

[Trussben]

Nice Rusty, the experiment on treenail sizes is always fun! I personally prefer the smaller ones but that's just me.

 

Ben

[Rustyj]

Hi Ben,

 

Thanks for stopping by and yes it is fun to experiment. I believe the smaller ones

are closer to scale so you will be seeing them again.

 

Onward we go. The mortar deck clamps have been cut and test fit.

 

 

 

I have also started cutting out the floor riders and will have to shape them to fit the hull.

 

 

 

So much fun and so little time!

 

 

[Rustyj]

As I was making the floor riders I looked ahead in the plans at the shell room

as that comes after the floor riders. I measured up the cannon balls, went to the

shot locker and I just couldn’t understand why I didn’t have any cannon balls

big enough. I mean they are only 14mm (.55”).

So I had a not so bright idea. I tip toed into the Admirals craft room, located her

stash of jewelry making supplies and found some 14mm beads. Then with the

saddest face I could make asked permission to use them.

 

Permission was granted, hole on one end filled, paint administered and tada cannon balls!

 

 

 

[augie]

Nice find  ---- and congrats on the negotiation skills  

[dvm27]

Great idea for those cannon balls, Rusty.

 

It's hard to tell from the photo but did you pare back the inside edge of the mortar clamp so that the beam fits properly athwartships?

[Rustyj]

Thanks Augie. A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do.  

 

Hi Greg. The simple answer is yes and no. As the clamp is tacked temporarily in place

for measurements etc I’ve not made the final adjustments to it for the deck beams. Also

the hull is laying on its side which makes it look  even worse. Thanks.  

[Trussben]

That's some great thinking there Rusty, the mortars really look the part.

I think I may get a few hours to get back on the Echo tomorrow, have you done any more in yours?

 

Ben

[Rustyj]

Hi Ben and thanks. It was good to see you back at the echo cross section but no nothing

from me on the echo right now. That’s a story I’ll have to post there sometime soon.

 

Here are all of the floor riders constructed. Then I took and numbered each one as they would

be unique as I'm sanding them to fit both the hull frames and the mortar deck clamp.

 

 

 

 

Once they are finished and in place it will time to put the limited inboard hull planking.

[dvm27]

Sweet joinery, Rusty!

[gjdale]

Yep, very nice joinery indeed Rusty!

[Rustyj]

Thanks Greg and Grant.

 

Greg I owe it all to you from when you showed how to use the disk sander and chisels on the Echo Cross Section!  

[rafine]

It's all looking very sweet, Rusty.Your joinery which has always been good, just keeps getting better.

 

Bob

[Rustyj]

Thanks Bob, very appreciated.

[Trussben]

You really have mastered it Rusty, I can't wait to see you do a full POF model. :-))

 

Ben

[Rustyj]

Hi Ben, Thanks for your continued support. I’ve done a couple of admiralty

style POF’s already and I’m not sure when I will do a full one again.

So many things to build.

 

Well the floor riders have been shaped and installed along with the motor deck

clamps. I’ve also placed the first of the inboard planking between the keel and

the deck clamps. The channel has been cut for the limber boards too.

 

 

 

Seeing that the clamps and riders are installed the framing is stable enough to fair

the outer hull now. So I took her outside and seeing she is so big I was able to use a

palm sander I normally use on full size work to rough her in.

 

 

Here you see one side has been done with 80 grit. I’ll work out to 220 grit for now.