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HMS Fly by Dfell - Amati / Victory Models - Scale 1:64

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Hello - Thank you Martin W / Beta male / Blue Ensign / Mirabell61 for having a look at my build and your encouraging comments.

 

Martin - I must have worn the pages away on your build with my constant viewing of your build which has helped me a lot.

Have now stuck the gunport strips down and have thought one could get too hung up on getting them right which felt impossible to get 100% correct and realise things can be slightly altered at a later date.

Will probably get the gun carriages from Syren and the cannons from RB.

 

Blue Ensign - Had noticed you added a supportive piece on the joint and did think of doing this but once all glued up and dry the joint felt okay. We will see :)

(Been following your Pegasus build - incredible)

 

Regards

 

Doug

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Hi Dfell

               The Fly upgrade kit has been available for about a year now, it is available here, if it's not in stock he can get it in 5  7 days.

http://www.euromodels.co.uk/index.php?CATEGORY=19&SUB=13&THISPAGE=1&RADIOSORT=4&PICFILE=15817&STKNR=15817&STRH=2380&ORDN=2303&RNZ=996550

 

Also if you want to upgrade those terrible cannon barrels i can let you have some replacements see pic below

The Smaller ones are for the swivel guns but you will have to make your own mountings for those but there is a Pegasus build on this forum which will give you an idea on how to do it :)

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Hello Cobr@ - Thank you for the information. Had last contacted Andrew Horne (Euromodels)at the end of August last year and nothing in and had given up.

Have now contacted him again as I can see they could be available on his site. Thank you for letting me know and thanking for your offer on the barrels. I will see if I can get an upgrade kit and take it from there.

 

Regards

 

Doug

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Hi Doug

                Andrew is pretty helpful and will do his best to get the kit for you if it's not already in stock. If you get one i would thicken the gun carriages before assembly as they are on the thin side. I did this by lining the outside of the carriage sides with 0.5 mm x 3 mm strip wood. even though it's only half a mm each side it makes them much more sturdy and also makes them look like they are made from separate blocks of wood rather then ply.

Don't forget you don't get cannon barrels with the kit, just the carriages

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Right - an update.

 

Hull sanded ready for 2nd planking.

 

Bulkhead stubs removed and main deck planking finished to edge.

 

Inner bulkhead planked, sanded and painted.

 

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One cabin partition made with acetate for glazing. Not sure if there would have been  glass in the doors, thought it would let more light in. Have no historical reference has to how the partition should look  - just copied what was done by everyone.

 

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Guess the next thing to do is the stern and then the wale.

 

Thanks for looking in.

 

Regards

 

Doug

 

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Hi Doug -- That's a nice looking bulkhead.  The knobs & hinges make for attractive details  Can't wait to see more.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

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Further progress—2nd planking done. Feels now like one has a ship / boat.

The darker band is where the wale will be positioned.

The hull has been stained with oak colouring although the lower section will be painted white.

 

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Gun ports lined. Used the deck planking timber which was not a great idea as it had a tendency to splinter.

 

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Thank you for previous comments

 

Regards

 

Doug

 

 

 

 

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Hi - Wale now done. Little bit uncertain how it should finish it at stern. Blue colour in the photo looks a lot brighter than it is.

 

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Have cut out the infill to windows - a little more filing required...... I know I have not done the captain's cabin - just thought it may make the windows have a bit more depth than looking like a thin piece of metal. I am also going to put acetate behind for glazing.

 

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Regards

 

Doug

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Wale looks good  Doug. :) 

 

Your proposed technique with the Quarter lights is one I have used in the past, and light reflecting off the acetate does give  an impression of depth.

 

Cheers,

 

B.E.

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Hi Doug -- The wales look good to me.  Bringing them back to the stern is tricky, since there's such a sharp inward and upward curve.  From your picture, though, I'd say you finished it off well.  And remember that you'll have some trim running along the bottom of the counter to make everything fit together.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

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Sorting out the decorations strips. Using masking tape to get the correct positioning of the two 2 x 1 mm walnut strips. Many hours spent measuring and rechecking—quite challenging   :) 

 

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The instructions says to paint black between the strips if using decoration and blue if not. Have painted the areas blue even though will be putting the decorations on as I have seen most builds have blue as it does look good (And then again maybe not in my case...........) and the walnut strips have been painted yellow ochre whereas the instructions say just varnish.

Where the side windows will be positioned the strip will be cut to fit, as strip is not glued in that area.

 

 

 

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Thank you Blue Ensign and Martin W for your helpful comments and certainly learning a lot from both of your builds.

 

Regards

 

Doug

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Very nice planking, Doug.  And with your subsequent application of the wales, plus the paint job, you're making excellent progress.

I'm seriously thinking that the "Fly" will have to be my next challenge, so I'm watching your build with a lot of interest.

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Thanks Cobr@ - although I feel I am not quite building this time as well as I did with the Supply build.

Also thanks to probablynot and Beef Wellington for your comments, Thank you.

 

 

Probably doing everything in the wrong order -side windows in place - not looking so good close up. The lower design was hard to see on one window - the moulding was very bad but slightly better on the other window and also found it hard to paint it correctly so did a bit of bodge job - tried to replicate the brass design along the side. 

Had painted the brass designs along the side with brass paint to tie in with the metal moulds that had to be painted a brass colour. Not a good idea so had to take the paint off which mucked up the brass strips   :(    

 

 

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Masking off to paint the hull below waterline. Have done the waterline about 4 mm lower than it should be - mainly as did not like the look of it nearly up against the wale and besides it was easier to fit the masking tape   :rolleyes:

 

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Regards

 

Doug

 

 

 

 

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Hi - small update. Rudder attached with the gudgeons and pintles although the top gudgeon is not there as stern counter (part 146 which on the parts list says 'not in use'?) is in the way. Maybe not enough inward curve on the counter part although it is fixed properly to stern bulkheads.

 

 

 

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Thanks

 

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Yes - I think that top gudgeon has been treated as "not required" by most builders. 

But the counter shape should not be in the way - its open to the stern post.

I like BEs solution - hide it with a fancy cover !!

 

You had me scrabbling in my Fly parts list and indeed in mine the space for 146 is simply blank in English and Not in Use in Italian,

But it r4eflects a late revision  I think -if you check Plan Sheet 2 You can see that part 146  on the 1.5mm ply has been added later - different script

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That top gudgeon is a hoot!  When I tried putting the rudder in place, I felt the chill of, Oh No, My Measurements are Way OFF.  But it's true -- if you look at lots and lots of pictures of the Swan sterns, you'll see that the top gudgeon just disappears, or the modeller did something clever.

 

You're making great progress!  I like that blue you chose.

 

cheers,

 

Martin

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Thanks SpyGlass and Martin W for the information - that's a relief as with this build there seems a lot of measuring and re measuring and more measuring and I kept thinking what have I done wrong again........

The blue I am surprised it's liked - it is a bit of a lighter colour than on other builds although it appears brighter in the photos. I do put  bright lights on when photographing.

 

Thank you to everyone looking in, the likes etc.

 

Now to paint the hull white. A bit scary - the waterline needs to be accurate (more measuring / checking)   :(

 

 

Regards

 

Doug

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Hello Glennard - thanks for looking and your comments. Have been looking at all the Pegasus and Fly builds - I need all the help I can get.

 

 

Felt that I have taken a big step forward with painting below the waterline - which means I can get on with the fixtures and fittings.

Just finishing the stern windows - next update.

 

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The stern fascia was bent over a shaped bit of balsa wood and soaked with diluted PVA to get the required curve.

The metal carvings were broken in two places and stuck back together and filed away at centre area on the back - also to try and achieve a slight curve. 

 

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Thanks for looking

 

Regards

 

Doug

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Wow - what a nice waterline !!

 

I also like the stern windows - Fly castings are rubbish but you have made a really good job of them

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Is this what I'm going to have to do if my beloved Admiral buys me the HMS Fly kit for Christmas?

I'm intimidated!

Superb work! Extremely neat painting to the waterline. And I love what you're doing with the stern lights.

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