Dfell Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share #31 Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Hello - Thank you Martin W / Beta male / Blue Ensign / Mirabell61 for having a look at my build and your encouraging comments. Martin - I must have worn the pages away on your build with my constant viewing of your build which has helped me a lot. Have now stuck the gunport strips down and have thought one could get too hung up on getting them right which felt impossible to get 100% correct and realise things can be slightly altered at a later date. Will probably get the gun carriages from Syren and the cannons from RB. Blue Ensign - Had noticed you added a supportive piece on the joint and did think of doing this but once all glued up and dry the joint felt okay. We will see (Been following your Pegasus build - incredible) Regards Doug Edited May 7, 2016 by Dfell Martin W 1 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted June 21, 2016 Share #32 Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Hi Dfell The Fly upgrade kit has been available for about a year now, it is available here, if it's not in stock he can get it in 5 7 days. http://www.euromodels.co.uk/index.php?CATEGORY=19&SUB=13&THISPAGE=1&RADIOSORT=4&PICFILE=15817&STKNR=15817&STRH=2380&ORDN=2303&RNZ=996550 Also if you want to upgrade those terrible cannon barrels i can let you have some replacements see pic below The Smaller ones are for the swivel guns but you will have to make your own mountings for those but there is a Pegasus build on this forum which will give you an idea on how to do it Edited June 21, 2016 by Cobr@ Old Collingwood 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share #33 Posted June 21, 2016 Hello Cobr@ - Thank you for the information. Had last contacted Andrew Horne (Euromodels)at the end of August last year and nothing in and had given up. Have now contacted him again as I can see they could be available on his site. Thank you for letting me know and thanking for your offer on the barrels. I will see if I can get an upgrade kit and take it from there. Regards Doug cobra1951 1 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted June 21, 2016 Share #34 Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Hi Doug Andrew is pretty helpful and will do his best to get the kit for you if it's not already in stock. If you get one i would thicken the gun carriages before assembly as they are on the thin side. I did this by lining the outside of the carriage sides with 0.5 mm x 3 mm strip wood. even though it's only half a mm each side it makes them much more sturdy and also makes them look like they are made from separate blocks of wood rather then ply. Don't forget you don't get cannon barrels with the kit, just the carriages Edited June 21, 2016 by Cobr@ Dfell 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted June 21, 2016 Share #35 Posted June 21, 2016 It's been a while since I caught up with your build Doug - very nice! Love how the tanganyika deck came out! Dfell, cobra1951, Martin W and 1 other 4 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share #36 Posted August 1, 2016 Hello - Have now received upgrade kit. Thanks for the advice and offer of cannons - will see how things turn out. Hopefully everyone else who have been waiting have now got the upgrade. Martin W, Old Collingwood, ccoyle and 1 other 4 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share #37 Posted August 29, 2016 Hi - First planking done using kit supplied wood. Have just given the hull an initial light sanding with coarse paper just to give me confidence that it is in a reasonable state and not too bad Regards . cristikc, BenD, Martin W and 5 others 8 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share #38 Posted September 9, 2016 Right - an update. Hull sanded ready for 2nd planking. Bulkhead stubs removed and main deck planking finished to edge. Inner bulkhead planked, sanded and painted. One cabin partition made with acetate for glazing. Not sure if there would have been glass in the doors, thought it would let more light in. Have no historical reference has to how the partition should look - just copied what was done by everyone. Guess the next thing to do is the stern and then the wale. Thanks for looking in. Regards Doug Landlubber Mike, cristikc, Beef Wellington and 3 others 6 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted September 9, 2016 Share #39 Posted September 9, 2016 Making good progress Doug, hull looks in excellent shape for the second planking. B.E. Martin W and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted September 9, 2016 Share #40 Posted September 9, 2016 Hi Doug -- That's a nice looking bulkhead. The knobs & hinges make for attractive details Can't wait to see more. Cheers, Martin Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share #41 Posted October 4, 2016 Further progress—2nd planking done. Feels now like one has a ship / boat. The darker band is where the wale will be positioned. The hull has been stained with oak colouring although the lower section will be painted white. Gun ports lined. Used the deck planking timber which was not a great idea as it had a tendency to splinter. Thank you for previous comments Regards Doug Blue Ensign, oneslim, Dubz and 5 others 8 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share #42 Posted October 10, 2016 Hi - Wale now done. Little bit uncertain how it should finish it at stern. Blue colour in the photo looks a lot brighter than it is. Have cut out the infill to windows - a little more filing required...... I know I have not done the captain's cabin - just thought it may make the windows have a bit more depth than looking like a thin piece of metal. I am also going to put acetate behind for glazing. Regards Doug BenD, Beef Wellington, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted October 10, 2016 Share #43 Posted October 10, 2016 Wale looks good Doug. Your proposed technique with the Quarter lights is one I have used in the past, and light reflecting off the acetate does give an impression of depth. Cheers, B.E. Martin W and Dfell 2 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted October 10, 2016 Share #44 Posted October 10, 2016 Hi Doug -- The wales look good to me. Bringing them back to the stern is tricky, since there's such a sharp inward and upward curve. From your picture, though, I'd say you finished it off well. And remember that you'll have some trim running along the bottom of the counter to make everything fit together. Cheers, Martin Old Collingwood, Landlubber Mike and Dfell 3 Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #45 Posted October 19, 2016 Sorting out the decorations strips. Using masking tape to get the correct positioning of the two 2 x 1 mm walnut strips. Many hours spent measuring and rechecking—quite challenging The instructions says to paint black between the strips if using decoration and blue if not. Have painted the areas blue even though will be putting the decorations on as I have seen most builds have blue as it does look good (And then again maybe not in my case...........) and the walnut strips have been painted yellow ochre whereas the instructions say just varnish. Where the side windows will be positioned the strip will be cut to fit, as strip is not glued in that area. Thank you Blue Ensign and Martin W for your helpful comments and certainly learning a lot from both of your builds. Regards Doug Martin W, Blue Ensign, Gahm and 4 others 7 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 19, 2016 Share #46 Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) I like the choice of your colours Doug. Shes really looking grand. Edited October 19, 2016 by Beef Wellington Martin W 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 19, 2016 Share #47 Posted October 19, 2016 Your build is progressing nicely Martin W 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share #48 Posted October 27, 2016 Thanks Cobr@ - although I feel I am not quite building this time as well as I did with the Supply build. Also thanks to probablynot and Beef Wellington for your comments, Thank you. Probably doing everything in the wrong order -side windows in place - not looking so good close up. The lower design was hard to see on one window - the moulding was very bad but slightly better on the other window and also found it hard to paint it correctly so did a bit of bodge job - tried to replicate the brass design along the side. Had painted the brass designs along the side with brass paint to tie in with the metal moulds that had to be painted a brass colour. Not a good idea so had to take the paint off which mucked up the brass strips Masking off to paint the hull below waterline. Have done the waterline about 4 mm lower than it should be - mainly as did not like the look of it nearly up against the wale and besides it was easier to fit the masking tape Regards Doug Martin W, BenD, Landlubber Mike and 3 others 6 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share #49 Posted October 31, 2016 Hi - small update. Rudder attached with the gudgeons and pintles although the top gudgeon is not there as stern counter (part 146 which on the parts list says 'not in use'?) is in the way. Maybe not enough inward curve on the counter part although it is fixed properly to stern bulkheads. Thanks Martin W, BenD, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted October 31, 2016 Share #50 Posted October 31, 2016 That top gudgeon is a hoot! When I tried putting the rudder in place, I felt the chill of, Oh No, My Measurements are Way OFF. But it's true -- if you look at lots and lots of pictures of the Swan sterns, you'll see that the top gudgeon just disappears, or the modeller did something clever. You're making great progress! I like that blue you chose. cheers, Martin Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share #51 Posted November 1, 2016 Thanks SpyGlass and Martin W for the information - that's a relief as with this build there seems a lot of measuring and re measuring and more measuring and I kept thinking what have I done wrong again........ The blue I am surprised it's liked - it is a bit of a lighter colour than on other builds although it appears brighter in the photos. I do put bright lights on when photographing. Thank you to everyone looking in, the likes etc. Now to paint the hull white. A bit scary - the waterline needs to be accurate (more measuring / checking) Regards Doug Martin W, Landlubber Mike and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted November 8, 2016 Share #52 Posted November 8, 2016 Hello Doug I've just found your build log and it looks like your are doing a really nice job of your build. I will follow your build with interest as you are a bit further on than me with my HMS Pegasus build (just finished the 1st planking). Glenn Martin W, Dfell and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share #53 Posted November 15, 2016 Hello Glennard - thanks for looking and your comments. Have been looking at all the Pegasus and Fly builds - I need all the help I can get. Felt that I have taken a big step forward with painting below the waterline - which means I can get on with the fixtures and fittings. Just finishing the stern windows - next update. The stern fascia was bent over a shaped bit of balsa wood and soaked with diluted PVA to get the required curve. The metal carvings were broken in two places and stuck back together and filed away at centre area on the back - also to try and achieve a slight curve. Thanks for looking Regards Doug Beef Wellington, Old Collingwood, amateur and 9 others 12 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted November 15, 2016 Share #54 Posted November 15, 2016 Looking very smart Doug, nice contrasting colours on the hull, walnut looks great against the white hull and blue of the topsides. B.E. Old Collingwood, Martin W, Landlubber Mike and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted November 15, 2016 Share #55 Posted November 15, 2016 Beautiful work Doug. Agree with BE, the colors you are using are working very nicely together. Martin W and Dfell 2 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted November 15, 2016 Share #56 Posted November 15, 2016 Ship looks great! How did you apply the white paint? Steve Martin W 1 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share #57 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Thank you very much for the lovely comments - Blue Ensign / Landlubber Mike / SpyGlass / Tigersteve / probablynot and to all those that pressed the 'like' button. Thank you. Yes it is a shame the metal castings are not good. The blue is the French navy blue with quite a bit of white, some black, and bit of red. The white waterline was sprayed with acrylic matt paint. First with a couple of coats of grey primer, sanded then couple of coats of the white. Then clear matt lacquer. So as to not to get any bleed under the masking tape - having stuck the tape down - I paint on along the edge of the tape (that the new paint goes up to) the colour that is under the masking tape thus sealing it. In this case it was clear matt lacquer. probablynot - maybe Pegasus might be a better build as the fitting may be better and you will have master builders (Blue Ensign / Landlubber Mike - among others ) to follow. Talking of great builders - what has happened to Aliluke (Alistair)? Regards Doug Edited November 17, 2016 by Dfell RonaldB and Martin W 2 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted November 16, 2016 Share #58 Posted November 16, 2016 Nicely done, Doug, nicely done indeed. I would have been afraid to use spray paint, but your strategy of laying a coat under the tape sound ingenious. Spy's right about those fittings, and they don't get any better. We all miss Alistair's contributions to the Fly/Pegasus community. But as a working man myself, I know how hard it can be sometimes to get to the boatyard for any extended work. Cheers, Martin Old Collingwood and Dfell 2 Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted November 23, 2016 Share #59 Posted November 23, 2016 Beautiful build, Doug! It is a pleasure to watch! Thomas Martin W 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfell Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share #60 Posted December 1, 2016 Stern windows fitted plus window ledge. The decorations above in arched section left off as they did not quite fit in - besides it was nice to see some of the red colour. Still a bit of touching up needed as glue is showing. The side decorations were snapped in two places so as to get them to fit the curve of the hull and I can see in the picture that I haven't hidden the join so well. Thanks Gahm for looking in and the nice comments. Just wished I could take really close up pictures without showing some wobbly work unlike your incredible work which really is a pleasure to see. Also thank you Martin W. Couple of other great builders - vths and pnevrin - seem to have disappeared? Regards Doug skipper1947, RonaldB, Martin W and 5 others 8 Quote Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64 HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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