Emma C Berry by Cannon Fodder - Model Shipways - 1/32

[Cannon Fodder]

I am kinda dreading the fairing process as I know I have some wacked out frames. We are moving to our new house at the end of the month and I'll have to pack up the shipyard here soon. Not to worry I have grand plans for the shipyard at the new place.

Edited March 12, 2016 by Cannon Fodder

[Cannon Fodder]

I met my goal of getting all of the lodging knees in place this evening. I however ran out of timber for the deck framing. There is one last piece that I will have to fudge with a slightly different size piece. Oh well. Totally not worth going to get more at this stage. I plan on planking the deck. I was actually contemplating doing a half plank and leaving open the other half to allow better view into the hull and its details. The deck framing needs some sanding for sure, and I was test fitting the next piece, the king plank...my mast hole is slightly off and it's all thanks to my shoddy framing I did. I am paying for my early mistakes already. I'll just have to adjust a bit. Cumulative millimeter or half millimeter errors in the first 5 frames I placed lead to a 3 mm discrepancy in the mast hole which would lead to a several degree tilt to the mast one does not need.

[Nirvana]

Cannon Fodder,

I would recommend to let your ship have a seperate trip in your car, this to avoid any sort of damages while moving.

The Admiral and me moved just recently and I let my ships travel "first class".

 

Good luck with the move and setting up the new yard, which is also a lot of fun.

[Cannon Fodder]

Any good build log just has copious amounts of pics, of the good and bad parts to learn from our mistakes. Those darn framing errors plague me still, trying to sand them out at multiple stages so I don't sand any one piece too thin. The bump is actually in the framing too. Kingplank is center but decking not...thinking about a fix to it.

[Cannon Fodder]

Shipyard packed up and ready to move t minus 6 days and counting...will post picks of my new work space once it's built.

[Elijah]

Good luck with the move!

[WaltB]

Cannon Fodder,

I can sympathize with you about the frames. It is essential that they be installed near to perfection. Otherwise everything else--inside works, deck planking, and especially hull planking go awry. I had that problem, and by the time i found out, i had several problems that were difficult and time-consuming to fix. It is the after few frames that are so tricky as they "float" with much less support than the earlier frames.

 

I'm almost finished with the hull on my Berry and starting on the mast and rigging. I'll post some pictures later as an underway build log (I was told i could do that).

 

Your build really looks good; it's hard to tell there are the problems you mention.

 

Good luck with the rest of it. Keep at it; we are all waiting to see more.

Walt

[Cannon Fodder]

The beginnings of a workshop taking shape.

[russ]

I just found your log. Very good work. Enjoy the new shipyard.

 

Russ

[Nirvana]

Cannonfodder, you lucky B******

 

"Editing"; I am sorry for the language.

 

You are already getting your workshop together.

Funny part though is that we have the same idea of setting up the work area.

Now I am looking forward to the build of Emma.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Nirvana

[Elijah]

Nice workshop !

[Cannon Fodder]

So I am trying to fair the hull in preparation for planking. I'm am finding that I don't think I have the right tool. What to people use that won't break the frames

yet will remove the necessary material in a safe and controlled manner? I'm wondering if I finally need a Dremel.

 

I've tried sandpaper in my hands, too soft. I've tried needle files. I've tried larger files. Those are too hard. The curves of the hull make it quite challenging, Convex and concave aspects.

Small blocks with sandpaper on them. Have people had success with the pre-made foam type sanding block?

Any suggestions?

[Thistle17]

I have followed Chuck Passaro's method by making small sanding blocks that will span a minimum of 4 bulkheads. The blocks have a little handle (just a perpendicular block glued to the non sand paper side for ease of holding). He has also suggested making the sanding block itself have a slight contour (either concave or convex) to them. I then glue on, say 120 grit paper, and carefully sand. I then use 180 to finish off. Of course I have not mentioned the width of the sand blocks themselves. I made several of varying width given the scale and nature of the hull curvature. In regard to the bulkhead or frame rigidity I did add stiffeners to them so as not to break any. Even a temporary pinning of a batten or stiffener will help. Hope this helps.

[donrobinson]

I'm about the same as Thistle17, I use various shapes and sizes of wood with sandpaper glued to it(or double sided tape). For fairing a hull I typically use a paint stir stick with sandpaper attached to it, with a different grit on either side. As for sand paper I use sandpaper that is meant for belt sanders as it lasts much longer and is better quality. Poor sandpaper is much like using a dull chisel, requiring more pressure and causing more breakage.

[WaltB]

I met my goal of getting all of the lodging knees in place this evening. I however ran out of timber for the deck framing. There is one last piece that I will have to fudge with a slightly different size piece. Oh well. Totally not worth going to get more at this stage. I plan on planking the deck. I was actually contemplating doing a half plank and leaving open the other half to allow better view into the hull and its details. The deck framing needs some sanding for sure, and I was test fitting the next piece, the king plank...my mast hole is slightly off and it's all thanks to my shoddy framing I did. I am paying for my early mistakes already. I'll just have to adjust a bit. Cumulative millimeter or half millimeter errors in the first 5 frames I placed lead to a 3 mm discrepancy in the mast hole which would lead to a several degree tilt to the mast one does not need.

Cannon Fodder

I too had the kingplank misaligned witht eh mast hole in the knees. My frames were pretty close to right on; so i think it was an error in the kit supply. I just made a new kingplank, cut the mast hole to fit, and scribed the faux planks into the new piece. Worked great. Nice build; looks pretty much like mine (surprise).

Walt

[Cannon Fodder]

Planking has begun. Boy that was a dry spell and a really cold winter making the workshop unworkable. No I have a couple heaters installed and am back up and working,... now that the dead of winter is over.  Pictures to follow soon I promise. Some damage and repair has occurred. Dropped one of the heaters on it. Doh! Happy to be back working at it after a terribly busy year.

[Tigersteve]

Good thing you're back. There aren't enough builds of this one. I'll follow along too. Nice job so far.

Steve

[Cannon Fodder]

Planking! And look at a bit of the damage. I am loathe to remake the transom piece I'll just glue it together when I get to that section of planking.

[Cannon Fodder]

I am channeling Chuck P. tonight and lining off my hull. 

[russ]

Looks good. It will make planking so much easier.

 

Russ

[Cannon Fodder]

I have a new and improved jig to hold the model as I plank I was worried about the bow breaking.

I am continuing to line out my hull. I had placed three planks but ripped them off when I got possessed by Chuck. 

I am fearful of the transition from lined out hull to actual planking. It seems that every strake will need thinning along the entire length, Ihave twenty strokes at midship at frame number 12. The plans do give detailed planking drawings.

 

[russ]

The jig looks good. If it holds the hull stable and you are comfortable with it, go for it.

 

As for planking intimidation, do not worry about the entire planking job. Deal with each plank in the first strake. And then each plank in the second strake and so forth. You have your marks on the hull, so concentrate on shaping one plank at a time. Make each plank fit the space you have lined out for it and the entire job will fall together on its own.

 

Russ

[Cannon Fodder]

The hull lined out completely. Garboard strakes in place. Plus one...the imperfections of the hull now stand out. 

Also I repaired the transom. 

and of course the lining on the transom looks terrible, now that I take a picture. Hmmm...I like the look of the starboard better. I'm going to plow ahead with my plan to plank symmetrically, one strake on each side. 

[Tim Curtis]

Love to see any progress on this! 

Tim

[Cannon Fodder]

Progress has been slow like molasses in Alaska in mid-winter, I'll post a few pics soon.

[Cannon Fodder]

Planking a hole in the side of a boat... challenging.

Sticking to my planking plan was a real challenge. Much more use of CA glue this time around for me. Still learning how not to glue my fingers to the boat.  I am learning to work through my short comings on it and enjoy it. Was frustrated there for was while. Better now and going with the flow. 

This side much more even and with the “plan.”

The bow junction where the plank meets the keel, still a challenge for me. Fingers get stuck here alot(CA).

 

Garage cabinets that are still partially doorless are to blame for some of the hiatus, a maternity leave I covered as well at work. At least now my 7 and 8.5 yo daughters are respecting the shipyard. 

 

fixed transom still evident.

Here’s the hole.

Lots of pics, just cause.

 

I am glad to be working on it some. 

[trippwj]

Wicked nice looking!  The planking on mine has now taken about 4 years (including packing and moving to a new to us house about 3 years ago).  I am envious of your success!

[Tigersteve]

Very nice! Welcome back. 

Steve

[yvesvidal]

Nice progress and beautiful boat. Seeing what you are doing is an incentive for me to go back to my model. However, I am busy right now restoring a few pinball machines and the boat kit will have to wait a few more months. I will enjoy your BLOG in the meantime.

 

Yves

[BobG]

Any further progress on this wonderful model?