russ Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share #241 Posted September 3, 2017 This may represent a transition period between the use of the two rub rails. I have seen these wider rub rails on other vessels from other parts of the US and you can sometimes see them used as a foot hold as they move along the side of the boat at sea. Maybe they kept it on for that purpose. I will continue to ask around to see if there is an answer. Russ cog, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 4, 2017 Share #242 Posted September 4, 2017 I would expect the wide one to be thicker too as a rub rails. When I look at it, I 'd expect it would tear off easily when moving against the dock (up- and downward with the waves ...) Thanks mtaylor 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Allen Posted September 4, 2017 Share #243 Posted September 4, 2017 11 hours ago, russ said: This may represent a transition period between the use of the two rub rails. Of all the luggers we boarded in the late 60s and early 70s (there weren't to many left by the end of the early 80s) They always had 2 or 3 tires where they would ride over the rail at the widest part of the boat. They trawled from the stern once the trawl boards broke the water they would make wide circles washing the catch into the end of the bag then winching in the tail bag of catch. They had what was called a lazy line just above the throat of the bag and haul it into the boat a little forward of midship. I believe the rail it was refereed to as a chafing rail assisted in the lifting of the bag keeping it away from the hull so the webbing would not catch on any protrusions , nail heads, splinters etc. Its been a long time memory fades I think I am right though I could be wrong Did it happen to be docked at the large processor by the old Biloxi Bridge ? By the way absolutely accurate and beautiful build brings back a lot of memories mtaylor, Mahuna, cog and 3 others 6 Quote John Allen Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli On deck USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build Finished Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine Model Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share #244 Posted September 4, 2017 John: The shrimpers with whom In have spoken just called it a rub rail. It may be that some of them are not old enough to recall its exact purpose. I have seen many photos with the tire slung over the side. That may be the answer to Carl's question. This boat worked for Biloxi Canning so it would have been docked out front. You might be thinking of Cruso's which was around back near the old bridge. Thanks for the kind words. Russ cog, popeye the sailor, John Allen and 1 other 4 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 5, 2017 Share #245 Posted September 5, 2017 she's look'in good Russ......nice smooth hull. noting the outlines of the structures on deck, perhaps one use would be as a footing, as one goes fore to aft...or aft to fore. mtaylor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share #246 Posted September 5, 2017 Thanks. Russ popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share #247 Posted October 15, 2017 Lest ye believe I have given up, here is some small progress. Life got in the way for a while, but hopefully, I can manage some more progress now. Here are some temporary cradles I made for the model now that it is planked. I am also working on the pilot house. More later. Russ rafine, cog, Mahuna and 7 others 10 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 15, 2017 Share #248 Posted October 15, 2017 Not so temporary looking those cradles, Russ ... could be the permanent type, would certainly be for me ... src, John Allen, russ and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted October 15, 2017 Share #249 Posted October 15, 2017 beautiful lugger Russ, you did a fine work on the hull, love it.... Nils mtaylor, John Allen and russ 3 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share #250 Posted October 15, 2017 Carl: Thanks. That will be the final design, but I will probably make a new set when the time comes. Russ cog and mtaylor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share #251 Posted October 15, 2017 Nils: Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Russ mtaylor, cog and Mirabell61 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted October 15, 2017 Share #252 Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) That is a very fine looking hull Russ; this will one little beauty when complete. Slow progress is still good progress cheers Pat Edited October 15, 2017 by BANYAN russ, cog, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share #253 Posted October 16, 2017 Pat: Thanks. It is always good to hear from you. Russ mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 19, 2017 Share #254 Posted October 19, 2017 the stand looks sweet! I still have the first stand I ever made. if you look in the Nordkap instructions, you'll see it........and I assembled it that way. I made another one for the Nordkap later, and the original stand has hosted most of my past builds. I fear though, that it may finally find a home under the trawler Syborn.........what'll I do then!?!?!?! good to see your still working on her. she's a fine model......just wouldn't do, to see her on a shelf or something. look forward in seeing more of her progress russ, mtaylor and cog 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share #255 Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks. I came up with this general style for my recent models and I will probably use this style on other local boats as long as it is appropriate etc. Russ mtaylor, cog and popeye the sailor 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #256 Posted October 29, 2017 Just a little more progress. This was the perfect day to work on the model. Nice cool, dry weather. I am making some progress on the pilothouse. This pilot house differs from the trunk cabins I have built for schooners in that a lot of the interior is visible so I need to take some care to make sure that the interior details are presentable. This is all very rough right now, but it is coming along. The dashboard will have dials on it and the small bulkhead below it will have paneling and the wheel will be mounted just below the dashboard. There will be three windows in the openings across the front of the pilot house and the exterior will have vertical planking. Russ popeye the sailor, src, Elia and 8 others 11 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted October 29, 2017 Share #257 Posted October 29, 2017 Looks a tricky one to build, Russ, but it seems you're on top of it! John popeye the sailor, russ, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #258 Posted October 29, 2017 John: Thanks. This my third pass at this structure. I am hoping it will be the final one. Russ cog and mtaylor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted October 29, 2017 Share #259 Posted October 29, 2017 Third time lucky; it does look good Russ, even in 'rough' state. cheers Pat russ, cog and mtaylor 3 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #260 Posted October 29, 2017 Pat: Thanks. I am hoping everything will fit the way it should. So far it is looking promising. Russ mtaylor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 29, 2017 Share #261 Posted October 29, 2017 When I look at what you have achieved for details on your past builds, you'll manage fine, maybe not a walk in the park, but what do you expect when you're building a model ... Looking forward to the end result of this subbuild russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted October 29, 2017 Share #262 Posted October 29, 2017 Just a bit of catching up Russ, that hull really does have sweet lines, Love the low shot from the stern. I hope the weather down your way hasn't been too much of a problem. Michael russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #263 Posted October 29, 2017 Carl: Thanks. Russ mtaylor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #264 Posted October 29, 2017 Michael: Thanks. We had a few bumpy weather days, but it is all good. The cool weather is very fall like. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share #265 Posted October 30, 2017 Here is a look at the bead board treatment for the bulkhead below the dashboard. The wheel is temporarily set to check for height which is good. The bead board will get painted white. The bead board is made up from 1/8" wide strips with both edges chamfered off. Russ KenW, cog, src and 4 others 7 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted October 30, 2017 Share #266 Posted October 30, 2017 Looks very realistic, Russ. John popeye the sailor, russ, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share #267 Posted October 30, 2017 John: Thanks. There may be another version of this, but we will see. The wheel could be a tad smaller and the bead board might want to be a shade more narrow. It will not take a lot of time to redo it if I decide to do it. Russ mtaylor, popeye the sailor and cog 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 30, 2017 Share #268 Posted October 30, 2017 If I may suggest a little dusting of your lens ... (just pullin' your leg) I would have said the wheel looked somewhat big, but you beat me to it. Course panneling should be good, after all, it is a working vessel, and the planks aren't much wider than the wheel's outer ring (don't know the name of that part) ... popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted October 30, 2017 Share #269 Posted October 30, 2017 beautifull hull russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share #270 Posted October 30, 2017 Carl: I will probably make another dashboard assembly with some smaller paneling and see what it looks like. Thanks. Russ mtaylor and cog 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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