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Posted

Hello A

With the summer camping season upon us I've had very little time to work on any of my modeling projects, the Harriet Lane  still sits on the bench and I've parked the Niagara as well.   I had toyed with the idea of taking some material along but was always deterred by the hassle involved with moving a semi completed project, so the idleness continued, that is until recently!

 

I was perusing MSW one day and came across Clare Hess's (Catopower)  build log for the HMS Alert from Shipyard (link below)) a paper model...I've seen paper done before, primarily following Doris's scratch builds (link also below).  The attraction to paper is the lack of special tools required to complete a build.

 

 So with these two excellent builders as inspiration I took the plunge and ordered the Shipyard Pinta kit from Age of Sail.  My primary reason for choosing this kit was cost, it is only $22, I did spring for sails and mast accessory kits which brought the total up to $36.16, less shipping.  Not an exorbitant amount for an experiment.  THe kit arrived in a couple days and was packaged very well, the main kit consists of 5 pages of printed parts, 1 laser cut in heavy cardboard and 4 printed color parts, some really nice flags, and lots of color photos/instructions .  The sails are nicely printed on fabric and precut, the mast are just dowels of various diameters, but does come with a laser cut crows nest, which is a nice addition.

 

So here goes another build log...this one though will only be added to when we get away for the weekend as it is happening on the rv dining table!

The first couple pics show the kit packages, I plan to take a snap of the individual sheets as they are used.

 

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The ships keel and frames are laser cut from heavy pressed card...

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These were easy to remove with a #11 scalpel...

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Once all the parts were removed the main structure was assembled using PVA, the parts fit was very good, the parts went together with no fiddling whatever...

 

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I used a straightened paperclip to run a small bead of glue on each kerf before mating the pieces together then used a lego to square things while I readied the next part...

 

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It didn't take long to complete the frame...

 

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So that were she sits for now, the plan is to build this little ship pretty much box stock with the exception of the ropes, which I will spin up on my rope walk, looking through the sheets of parts the real challenge looks like it will be the rigging blocks, those I may replace as well, but we will see.

Thanks for looking in, appreciate you time and attention

J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted

Hi J. 

Will follow along with this one if you please.

Many modelers underestimate the quality and finish that card/paper models can acheave.

As you have pointed out we have some very experienced and superb card and paper modelers on MSW. 

A vacation with my family and a model ship kit would never work out for me... unless I wanted a divorce.

And taking challenge to build the kit while camping. You are one brave guy.

Will look forward to your build and the scenery as you build. Maybe on your return to Internet access to post updates.

 

Wishing you well.

Regards Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

Completed Mayflower

Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat

Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk

Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship

Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia

On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45

Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section

Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section

Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen

Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section

Posted

LOL...hey Anthony...you're more then welcome to join...what I failed to mention in my previous post is that I'm an early bird...and as the Admiral enjoys sleeping in I usually have a good 3-4 hrs in the a.m. prior to the commencement of any mandatory social obligations...all is well as long as the table is cleared for breakfast :P:P

Posted

looks like a very interesting build J......  I'll be following along ;) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted

Hi jct,

 

I will follow along also, although the subject isn't my usual area I enjoy watching card builds come together. 

 

Cheers

Slog

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

HM Bark Endeavour (First Wood, On Hold)

Borodino (1:200 Card, Current Build)

Admiral Nakhimov (card 1/200)

Mazur D-350 Artillery Tractor (1:25 Card) 

F-8 Crusader (1:48 Aircraft, Plastic)

Posted

Thanks everyone for the likes and kind comments, a question for you more experienced card/paper builders...what would you recommend using to  color edges?  I've heard everything from markers, pencils, crayons...any input is appreciated

J

Posted

Pencil is a good option, acrylyc paints, water colors... anything really, but stay away from markersz...

 

Pavol stands for Paul, Pablo, Paolo etc. Please do not try to pronounce it, just call me Pav...

Posted

Hi jct,

 

I have had great results with Faber Castell PITT artists pens despite what others say. I was directed to them by other card modellers. 

 

They are are quick and easy to use, don't need to worry about getting it where you don't what, don't bleed, dries immediately and edge colour before joining as they don't effect the glue joint. 

 

Saying that I also use watercolours and acrylics although I didn't like watercolour pencils. 

 

Try a few different options and see what works for you although you may settle on a couple depending on the task at hand. 

 

Cheers

Slog

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

HM Bark Endeavour (First Wood, On Hold)

Borodino (1:200 Card, Current Build)

Admiral Nakhimov (card 1/200)

Mazur D-350 Artillery Tractor (1:25 Card) 

F-8 Crusader (1:48 Aircraft, Plastic)

Posted

Count me in too J (do you have a name to go with the initial? ;)), although like Slog I'm more into Steel Ships at the moment. I've about had my fill of the 18th Century for now, after making a dozen or so :D.

 

:cheers:  Danny

Cheers, Danny

________________________________________________________________________________
Current Build :    Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues

Build Logs :   Norfolk Sloop  HMS Vulture - (TFFM)  HMS Vulture Cross-section  18 foot Cutter    Concord Stagecoach   18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE 

CARD Model Build Logs :   Mosel   Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen)   WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski)  Rolls Royce Merlin Engine  Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV)       Stug 40 (Halinski)    Yamaha MT-01   Yamaha YA-1  HMS Hood (Halinski)  Bismarck (GPM)  IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski)   HMVS Cerberus   Mi24D Hind (Halinski)  Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (ModelikTanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik)  Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik)  Peterbuilt Semi Trailer  Fender Guitar  

Restorations for Others :  King of the Mississippi  HMS Victory
Gallery : Norfolk Sloop,   HMAT Supply,   HMS Bounty,   HMS Victory,   Charles W. Morgan,   18' Cutter for HMS Vulture,   HMS Vulture,  HMS Vulture Cross-section,             18th Century Longboat in a Bottle 

Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi

Posted

Welcome Danny, glad to have you aboard, to answer your question yes it's Jay...but most people always ask just the opposite so I just use the J...:huh:...plus its easier to spell!!

 

I'm glad to have some experienced card builders like yourself and Slog looking over my shoulder , I'm hoping to put some time in this week end

J

 

Posted

First I want to say thanks to everyone for the likes and kind words...The better half and I got away for the week end so I was able to put more time into the Pinta build, first I want to add some photos of the kit parts that I failed to add in the opening post:

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This is the crow's nest that comes with the accessories pack

 

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Very nice flags

 

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and the pre-cut sails and the line that comes with the sail pac

 

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pics of some of he planking sheets and the hull fill sheet

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and we're off...the first section of the hull fill cut...

 

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...and applied

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the kit instructions call for some parts to be glued to card to bring them to the appropriate thickness, here the fore deck structure is glued to some .5mm chipboard

 

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cut free

 

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and installed, the same treatment for the main deck...using some Tamiya masking tape to hold the deck curve

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then it was back to glueing in the fill pieces...pva used exclusively for this

 

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A question here for all you experienced card builders...should i be concerned with the lines you can see on the hull??  do you think they will they show through the the planking layer?    After the hull was set aside to dry I started work on the sails

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as can be seen in the previous photo they were creased from shipping, so I soaked them and set them out on my cutting mat to dry...

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that worked well, the sails themselves are a nice fabric pre-cut and printed with seam lines and decorations, on the square ones.  This pic shows the spinnaker and the cord supplied to use as bolt rope...

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 glued this to the edge of the sail and formed loops to serve as clews and earring cringles 

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The clews and cringles still have to be served, the sail pack also includes line for that.

  Well that's it for the Pinta for now, thanks for your time and attention

J

 

Posted

Hi J,

 

You are making nice progress. 

 

RE you question about the lines showing through; ideally the hull ribs, bulkheads should be faired similar to what would be done with a wooden POB hull. 

 

Cheers

Slog

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

HM Bark Endeavour (First Wood, On Hold)

Borodino (1:200 Card, Current Build)

Admiral Nakhimov (card 1/200)

Mazur D-350 Artillery Tractor (1:25 Card) 

F-8 Crusader (1:48 Aircraft, Plastic)

Posted (edited)

In Shipyard models the first (of three) layer is just for the strengthening the hull. But fairing of the bulkheads shouldn't hurt...

Edited by Mumin
Posted

Thx Slog and Mumin...I did fair them lightly, obviously not enough, next question then is should i consider filling??

Posted
1 hour ago, Mumin said:

Not now. The second planking should be glued to the bulkheads only (as far as I remember the instruction manual suggests this) and then you will see if it needs filler.

Thanks for the guidance

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hi everyone,

We got away for the long weekend so I was able to get some build time on the Pinta, started working on the aft cabin wall...59adc2c77b26b_27-aftcabinwall.JPG.404e83a18fa36ea9aaaadc3e3b6374b9.JPG

all the parts have to be thickened to the appropriate thickness by laminating the kit pieces to other stock so they are glued up before being cut out.   Once the excess material is removed you need to color the edges somehow, I'm using watercolor pencils for that task, I also have some tube water color paints I'm going to experiment with later in the build. 

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the little doors came next the hinges are separate pieces and really add depth to the part

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the deck planking pieces were prepared next

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and installed...

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The slot in the bow planking had to be widened to allow for the stem pieces to be added...so this part was carefully removed and reinstalled after the stem was built.  That's one thing I'm unsure of with the kit drawings, the order of assembly... it isn't clear in some cases, in the future I'll have to study the pieces  more carefully to avoid redos, this one turned out to be no harm no foul...59adc2c63561b_34-stempostbuildup.JPG.8014a00088d0f203ce492ba65a450e8c.JPG

The aforementioned stem

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the completed bulkhead installed...there are supposed to be frames around the windows but they were completely butchered by the hamfisted shipwright...:huh:...I've an idea on how to remanufacture them, but that will be in the next installment...

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Shot from the bows...Well that's it for now, there won't be any updates to this log for a couple weeks, but I'll be working on the Harriet Lane.

Thanks to all for the likes and kind comments, appreciate you stopping by

J

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Posted
32 minutes ago, jct said:

there are supposed to be frames around the windows but they were completely butchered by the hamfisted shipwright...:huh:...I've an idea on how to remanufacture them

Here's a tip J - use a narrow chisel blade Xacto (you will have to grind one to width if you can) and CHOP the INSIDE of the frame out first. Then cut the outside using a steel rule for the straight edges. SHARP blades are vital, a Scalpel works far better than #11 Xacto blades. Use some scrap card for the new frames and paint them.

 

You can buy a Swann-Morton scalpel and blades on Ebay.

 

:cheers:  Danny

Cheers, Danny

________________________________________________________________________________
Current Build :    Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues

Build Logs :   Norfolk Sloop  HMS Vulture - (TFFM)  HMS Vulture Cross-section  18 foot Cutter    Concord Stagecoach   18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE 

CARD Model Build Logs :   Mosel   Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen)   WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski)  Rolls Royce Merlin Engine  Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV)       Stug 40 (Halinski)    Yamaha MT-01   Yamaha YA-1  HMS Hood (Halinski)  Bismarck (GPM)  IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski)   HMVS Cerberus   Mi24D Hind (Halinski)  Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (ModelikTanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik)  Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik)  Peterbuilt Semi Trailer  Fender Guitar  

Restorations for Others :  King of the Mississippi  HMS Victory
Gallery : Norfolk Sloop,   HMAT Supply,   HMS Bounty,   HMS Victory,   Charles W. Morgan,   18' Cutter for HMS Vulture,   HMS Vulture,  HMS Vulture Cross-section,             18th Century Longboat in a Bottle 

Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hi everyone, another update to the Pinta,  the side boards were cut out and build up to their proper thickness, I really like the way the kit instructions give you the finished thickness of each piece which allows you to get it correct right off.

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I'm using water colors to finish the exposed edges, just mixing colors to get close to the match...

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side boards were then mounted to the main hul

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by tacking and waiting for the glue to set bending to shape and gluing again, until the whole side was attached then the tiberheads were added

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and the waterways added

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that's all for now...more next week

THX

J

 

Posted

a small update...I decided to fill the main hull so while that was drying I turned my attention to a few small items.  I picked up a new tool called a screw punch, on Amazon for 9 bucks, worked real well.59c81a965567a_41-newtool.JPG.f73adabe10bf23207686f8960fb1b625.JPG

results below

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The sails needed to have their markings filled in, I taped them to the kit drawings and filled in the crosses with water color pencil

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also started the laser cut crows nest that was included in the accessory pack

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i'll get the hull squared away next week and include pics, but thats it for now...thx for the likes 

Posted

More than welcome Ken, thanks for all the likes... it is that, but a new experience for me so I'm kinda feeling my way through...feel free to jump in with any comments or criticisms 

Posted

nice bit of progress J  :)    simple and easy way to emboss your sails.........gotta get off my duff one day and perfect how to do it in a printer.   started,  but never continued.  how many sizes do you get with the punch?....I see they are interchangeable.

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted

interesting thought, that of a printer...the punch comes with six tips 4mm, 3.5, 3, 2.5, 2 and 1.5...used it again today works nice and comes in real handy, fast becoming a favorite 

Posted

thx for the likes and comments, another update...really just some pics not included in the last

the completed crows nest still needs paint

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the and sanded hull

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finished interior bulwarks

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