GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Share #1 Posted March 16, 2019 This is a commision I undertook for a good friend last year. We had a correspondence through Facebook, whether it was possible to turn his Victory Kit, which was still unopened into a 74. Several ideas and plans were put into consideration. The ship would have no sails or masts, and it would be a kind of "Admirality" type, just the hull sitting on a base resembling a launching cradle. With the exception of the Heller's Superebe and Glorieux, there are no other 74 on the kit market, certainly no british, and seems nobody had done something like that either. The plan was as follows: Rezze Victory by one deck, which was rather troublesome, especially because the bow and rails had to be remodeled. Increase the width of the decks, as they now sit one lower into the tumblehome. Remodel the quarter deck. Remove some gunports, turn the entrance into a gunport and reduce with width of the side ladders. I made it in a relatively good time, and he was very pleased. Here is the built log, I'll slowly updload them all today and tomorow, as I have to work on the bomb ketch as well! Here is the planing, in MS paint: Marcus.K., Old Collingwood, dafi and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted March 16, 2019 Rezzing the side was no problem. The bow needed some steps in the cuts. JerseyCity Frankie, Old Collingwood, Marcus.K. and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted March 16, 2019 The new figurehead was from an old Heller Royal louis. Progress was fast initially, but when the decks had to be widened, it stagnated. GrandpaPhil, dafi, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 16, 2019 Share #4 Posted March 16, 2019 So that's how they do it. Take a Victory, simply cut off a couple pieces and rename her Bellona 😲 I stand in awe sir! Chapeau. Cheers Pieter GeorgeKapas, Old Collingwood and mtaylor 3 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted March 16, 2019 The bow gave me much grief, as not only I had to reduce it in height and length, adjust the beak for the new figurehead, but all this while manipulating the bow rails as well. The cheeks knees of the bow aparently differ much in their position between a first and third rate, as I found out. mtaylor, Marcus.K., Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted March 16, 2019 Here, most modifications are complete: Decks widened, side ladder and gunports modified, shroud planks remodeled with added knees, most open gunports closed off with a screen behind them as per request of my friend. A lot of filler used everywhere to correct mistakes. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, JerseyCity Frankie and 4 others 7 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted March 16, 2019 Painting sceme. The choice of colors was conservative. A lot of back and forth with the filler on the deck, even at this late stage. I also built custom gratings as the ones on the kit were rather poor. I wanted the ship done with launching flag poles and all, but this was not desired by my friend. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, dafi and 6 others 9 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted March 16, 2019 Gradually color edges and details are painted. Here are the stern galeries being done. Again some back and forth with the colors due to the fact that this was a team project. Yet the result was very satisfactory. peveka, GrandpaPhil, Old Collingwood and 6 others 9 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted March 16, 2019 Some details on the chains of the shrouds. GrandpaPhil, dafi, peveka and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) As for the base, the solution was thusly decided: An old wooden photo frame was reused, plus some modeling cardboard and balsa wood. Edited March 16, 2019 by GeorgeKapas Marcus.K., dafi, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) The ship was not going to have masts, but most Admiralty models had the lower deadeyes attached, I decided to make and add them. Quite the extra trouble.. Edited March 16, 2019 by GeorgeKapas GrandpaPhil, nikbud, dafi and 3 others 6 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted March 16, 2019 At this stage ship and base were completed. The plan asked for little to no weathering, but after some discussion I got to apply it. peveka, Bill Morrison, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted March 16, 2019 Here is the light weathering of the external hull and planks. Old Collingwood, dafi, peveka and 4 others 7 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted March 16, 2019 He wanted the name of the ship to be "Conqueror". I had sanded the name Victory off early on, printed the new name on paper and applied it on the stern, with carefull painting and washing of the name plate with coat. It turned out better than I hoped. paulsutcliffe, mtaylor, Marcus.K. and 5 others 8 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted March 16, 2019 As for the deck, I had it painted with its base color in enamel. The relief that indicated planks is very faint in this kit. I had to work on it accordingly, as it would be clearly visible in a ship without masts and rigging. I had to drybrush the relief lines, then wash every different plank with acrylics. The extensions on both sides had to be treated too, both with lines and wash. Generally speaking I was pleased, since the quality of this old deck was rather poor.. mtaylor, GrandpaPhil, peveka and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted March 16, 2019 And this detail. Now that I think of it, a lot more could be done, but considering the rather haphazard nature of the built, it was good enough. GrandpaPhil, Marcus.K., dafi and 2 others 5 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Finished model! At least finished enough, he was very pleased indeed. Perhaps I'll do some more work with pencil on the deck when I visit him again. It was a very interesting project. Certainly without that correspondence and motivational discussions for such a rare built, I wouldnt have done it for my self. Edited March 16, 2019 by GeorgeKapas Old Collingwood, mtaylor, dafi and 8 others 10 1 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Thats all! Edited March 16, 2019 by GeorgeKapas Ian_Grant, Baker, peveka and 8 others 11 Quote Current scratch builts: Greek brig Ares - 1/144 Greek frigate Hellas - 1/144 -Soon Greek corvette Loudovikos - 1/144 - Soon Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/144 - Soon Completed scratch models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Greek steam sloop Karteria - 1/350 - Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the learner Posted March 23, 2019 Share #19 Posted March 23, 2019 I Have looked at all your builds and your eye for detailing in each one is fantastic! mtaylor, Baker, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 23, 2019 Share #20 Posted March 23, 2019 Lovely! Well done sir! Cheers Pieter GeorgeKapas and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipman Posted November 13, 2019 Share #21 Posted November 13, 2019 What a splendid conversion. I've been toying with a similar project. This build is an inspiration, well done! Old Collingwood and GeorgeKapas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted November 14, 2019 Share #22 Posted November 14, 2019 WOW - this is spectacularly well done! You are a builder after my own heart. This should be a magazine article, as it so perfectly illustrates what is possible when it comes to broadening the subject matter that is available to plastic builders. Very, very impressive! Old Collingwood, VonHoldinghausen, JerseyCity Frankie and 2 others 5 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Morrison Posted July 27, 2021 Share #23 Posted July 27, 2021 She is stunning! Well done! Bill GeorgeKapas and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted July 28, 2021 Share #24 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Just discovered now, wonderful and pleasant project and a great result! All the best, Daniel PS: AND NO! I am not cutting down my one 😉 Edited July 28, 2021 by dafi GeorgeKapas, Old Collingwood, Hubac's Historian and 1 other 4 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus.K. Posted July 28, 2021 Share #25 Posted July 28, 2021 Spectacular ! In my point of view this kit seems to be nice 2-decker too .. Cool conversion! Excellen! Old Collingwood, GeorgeKapas, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted July 29, 2021 Share #26 Posted July 29, 2021 This is awesome! Well done! Old Collingwood and GeorgeKapas 2 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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