hdrinker Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share #91 Posted November 2, 2022 I’m using Holly for the tree nails. Of all the stock I have, this seems to work best. Found bamboo difficult because of the nodes. Swiss Pear to brittle. Can’t get Juniper. Got the Holly down to 0.027” on average. Settled for that size. HD KentM, bruce d, CiscoH and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share #92 Posted November 12, 2022 Nailing below starboard wale complete. Roughly 2K nails! Anyone know of a shrink who specializes in tree nail overload? bruce d, druxey, mtaylor and 10 others 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted November 12, 2022 Share #93 Posted November 12, 2022 Way to go Henry mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 12, 2022 Share #94 Posted November 12, 2022 17 hours ago, hdrinker said: Nailing below starboard wale complete. Roughly 2K nails! Anyone know of a shrink who specializes in tree nail overload? We do have one for general shipaholic types... Dr. Per. He has a topic in Shore Leave for shipaholics. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share #95 Posted November 12, 2022 Sign me up! Can’t quite face the other side for awhile. Planning on completing the starboard planking topsides for a diversion and then maybe the deck. mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share #96 Posted November 20, 2022 Starboard topsides installed. Tree nails pending. KentM, James G, druxey and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted November 20, 2022 Share #97 Posted November 20, 2022 Smile, smile, smile mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share #98 Posted December 8, 2022 The process of making the tree nail dowels has proven a challenge, for sure. I agree with Kevin that the Byrnes draw plate is exceptional for its accuracy and sharpness. However, any blade will dull with use over time, and this I have found to be true even with this excellent tool. After awhile the stock starts to compress rather than cut when drawn through successively smaller holes. More force becomes necessary and stress accumulates in the dowel, causing breakage and wastage. The solution for me has been (thanks Kevin) the sanding of the flat cutting surface with 100 gr. paper. This restores the sharp edge of the holes. Also, I started cutting the dowel stock narrow enough to just pass through the .059” (largest hole) in the plate. By the time I reached my goal of .031”, the length of the resulting dowel was drastically reduced, leading to more hours of rather tedious work to have enough material for application. By reducing the stock size on the table saw to .042” to start with, I found the process greatly accelerated with much less breakage and about 3 times the resulting amount of usable dowel by the time .031” was achieved. mtaylor and Saburo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted December 8, 2022 Share #99 Posted December 8, 2022 You will find that after you’ve recovered you can get those down to .020, you’ll just have increased breakage. I now have another draw where I keep the .020 mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share #100 Posted December 9, 2022 I don’t like breakage! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted December 9, 2022 Share #101 Posted December 9, 2022 Hahahah mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 9, 2022 Share #102 Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Ways to reduce breakage: 1) Use bamboo with its long, parallel fibers. Split it first into smaller cross-sections by halving and re-halving the lengths. 2) Use parallel pliers to draw the pieces through the plate. The fibers aren't crushed which happens with regular pliers. 3) Draw steadily and in a straight line. 4) Only use the hard part of the bamboo just under the glassy outer layer. Edited December 9, 2022 by druxey tlevine and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share #103 Posted December 10, 2022 Are you using swizzle sticks, or some other source of bamboo? mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted December 10, 2022 Share #104 Posted December 10, 2022 Not sure if i sent you this Henry mtaylor and KentM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted December 10, 2022 Share #105 Posted December 10, 2022 I actually wrote him and he confirmed that he was pulling the dowel through the plate the wrong way. I was glad that i was not the only person to film things the wrong way. druxey, mtaylor and KentM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 10, 2022 Share #106 Posted December 10, 2022 An easy mistake to make if you haven't been told or seen the process done. VTHokiEE and mtaylor 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share #107 Posted December 11, 2022 Hi all, In my defense, I only put the stock into the draw plate from the countersunk side to get it in there. The taper directs the stock into the hole much more easily. I then bring the dowel all the way through to get it in position for the cutting step which, I’m well aware, is in the other direction. Also, by applying a slight angle to the plate, the cutting edge can be made to engage the stock more aggressively, removing a bit more stock. In that video, he stops at .036” which is a lot easier than going to .020”. Anyway, I’ve ordered some bamboo (not swizzle sticks) in hopes of getting stock without nodes, and will report on the results. mtaylor and KentM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted December 11, 2022 Share #108 Posted December 11, 2022 This is how i get the bamboo squares split. The dowels in the draw were made in half an hour watching the world cup. IMG_9210.MOV mtaylor, KentM, tlevine and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share #109 Posted January 12, 2023 Outer hull complete. I found in the end that bamboo clear stock, not skewers, ordered online proved the best source for me for making tree nail dowels and was able to get them down to .020”, starting with very narrow strips cut on my Byrnes saw. Darker tree nails were made from Mansonia stock provided by Dave at the Lumberyard and drawn down to .030 from think strips. KentM, Saburo, Kevin Kenny and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share #110 Posted January 12, 2023 The sheeves for the stationary blocks are made from Ebony. Saburo and Kevin Kenny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 13, 2023 Share #111 Posted January 13, 2023 I am just putting mine in through the outer planking and it was a bit of a struggle. KentM, hdrinker, Saburo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share #112 Posted January 16, 2023 Main deck framing underway. The wood is holly. KentM, Saburo, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share #113 Posted January 16, 2023 Meant planking! KentM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 16, 2023 Share #114 Posted January 16, 2023 I like the contrast.Henry mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share #115 Posted January 17, 2023 Currant plan is to use a darker color for the outer planks, which were apparently of oak for better wear beneath the cannons, and to only plank one side. mtaylor, James G, Saburo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share #116 Posted January 28, 2023 Main deck planking complete, as far as intended, to catch a glimpse of the deck below. Saburo, James G, scrubbyj427 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share #117 Posted February 1, 2023 Further progress on the main deck. Gun port stops next. KARAVOKIRIS, dvm27, Saburo and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share #118 Posted February 14, 2023 I’ve been thinking about scuppers, as I near the task of making them. If pewter is the material of choice, can anyone recommend what form of pewter to start with? mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlevine Posted February 14, 2023 Share #119 Posted February 14, 2023 My scuppers were made from a silver-gray craft paper. I rolled the paper around an appropriate diameter dowel to form the scupper. mtaylor 1 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrinker Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share #120 Posted February 15, 2023 I’ve been thinking about scuppers, as I near the task of making them. If pewter is the material of choice, can anyone recommend what form of pewter to start with? I experimented yesterday on the mini lathe with solid aluminum rod. It’s doable but the results are quite bright…not terribly realistic. Pewter does make more sense, but I’m ignorant of a method. No one seems to sell pewter tubing. The paper idea sounds interesting. Any other suggestions? Saburo and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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