RGL Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share #91 Posted December 21, 2020 Lower hull, I’ll add a bit of grunge tomorrow Canute, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted December 21, 2020 Share #92 Posted December 21, 2020 8 hours ago, lmagna said: It seems that each ship in the class has it's own unique transom flap with no two being exactly the same. It's actually each class has it's own design.... This one was tested on the HMS Argyle, then retro fitted to the Kent and another ship of the class.. (I forget which, and I have been unable to find if they were retrofitted to the other three ships of the class) I think they tested five different variations, the ones the fitted to the HMS Manchester were a different flatter style which only gave a 10% increase in fuel economy. the ones on the kent and her sisters gave a 13% increase..... But when your talking thousands of tons of fuel, it makes a pretty big difference... popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share #93 Posted December 21, 2020 Ok, alge, salt and barnacles on a modern ship, discuss..... Egilman, popeye the sailor and Canute 3 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 21, 2020 Share #94 Posted December 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Egilman said: But when your talking thousands of tons of fuel, it makes a pretty big difference... Yeah I kind of figured it may be an experiment in progress from when I read the link in your earlier post. 19 minutes ago, RGL said: Ok, alge, salt and barnacles on a modern ship, discuss..... Yeah, but she has a pretty cool dragon! Egilman, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share #95 Posted December 21, 2020 Such a cool dragon Egilman, popeye the sailor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 21, 2020 Share #96 Posted December 21, 2020 In pictures of her underway at speed the dragon looks like it is running on the bow wave. Canute, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted December 21, 2020 Share #97 Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, RGL said: Ok, alge, salt and barnacles on a modern ship, discuss..... I don't know, from the condition of the ship in the pic there isn't much there to scrape, and weren't these things aluminium hulled? from what I heard barnacles don't like aluminium..... (neither does algae) Lower weight, less maintenance... (sounds like a beer commercial slogan doesn't it) popeye the sailor, Canute, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 21, 2020 Share #98 Posted December 21, 2020 Cymru(Welsh) dragon looks good. Which frigate is that? popeye the sailor, lmagna, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted December 21, 2020 Share #99 Posted December 21, 2020 Believe it or not, HMS Dragon, a Daring class destroyer... lmagna, Canute, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 21, 2020 Share #100 Posted December 21, 2020 11 hours ago, RGL said: Ok, alge, salt and barnacles on a modern ship, discuss..... I have seen Dragon in real life - they debated wether to remove the motif but decided to keep it. OC. popeye the sailor, Egilman and Canute 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 21, 2020 Share #101 Posted December 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Beef Wellington said: Believe it or not, HMS Dragon, a Daring class destroyer... Yep indeed Jason Type 45 HMS Dragon - much much larger ship. OC. Egilman, Canute and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share #102 Posted December 21, 2020 I think in these days a big red dragon won’t scare people off but with radar and satellite it won’t give away the game either. The alge on the waterline is what I find interesting, (maybe she was in the Med) popeye the sailor, Canute, lmagna and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted December 22, 2020 Share #103 Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, RGL said: The alge on the waterline is what I find interesting I think it would appear patchy and blotchy and very dark green against the red anti-fouling paint.... Word I get from friends in the navy tell me that ALL ships get barnacles/slimed, even aluminium ones, you just never see them..... And the pesticides they use on Military Naval Vessels today pretty much eliminated them from being a typical issue for every dry docking.... All they do now is a casual inspection of the hull and the experts decide if they need a scraping and re-coating.... During WWII, scraping the hull was automatic on a ship being dry docked for longer than three days.... popeye the sailor and Canute 2 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 22, 2020 Share #104 Posted December 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Egilman said: I think it would appear patchy and blotchy and very dark green against the red anti-fouling paint.... Word I get from friends in the navy tell me that ALL ships get barnacles/slimed, even aluminium ones, you just never see them..... And the pesticides they use on Military Naval Vessels today pretty much eliminated them from being a typical issue for every dry docking.... All they do now is a casual inspection of the hull and the experts decide if they need a scraping and re-coating.... During WWII, scraping the hull was automatic on a ship being dry docked for longer than three days.... Wouldn't be supprised if they can be pressure washed - off these days - or most of it anyway. OC. Egilman, popeye the sailor and Canute 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share #105 Posted December 22, 2020 Anyways, the deck. Base coat and decals. Bit of weathering to go popeye the sailor, lmagna, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share #106 Posted December 22, 2020 So when you look at the bow there is markings around the main gun on the deck, not provided by the kit I used some from spare decals. I intend on dulling these all down and working the deck a lot more. Old Collingwood, Beef Wellington, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted December 22, 2020 Share #107 Posted December 22, 2020 Most ships, especially warships, use a self polishing paint on the hull bottom these days. If there is algae at the waterline it is more than likely she did not move around much recently (like sitting alongside during, or waiting for refit). This type of paint goes on one colour and is 'polished' off as the years go by - when it gets to the last colour it is time to have the bottom cleaned. cheers Pat Beef Wellington, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share #108 Posted December 22, 2020 Bit more fading and grunge on the deck, I think that’ll be enough until I start working on the focsle with some rust later. lmagna, oneslim, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share #109 Posted December 23, 2020 So, masked up oilcanning done, mask comes off as do decals (lucky I ordered another set) so no biggie to fix and overspray. Still annoying but so be it. lmagna, oneslim, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 23, 2020 Share #110 Posted December 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, RGL said: So, masked up Nice to see that term used in a good way here in 2020! Sad to see the deck stripes come off along with the tape, they really were looking nice. popeye the sailor, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 23, 2020 Share #111 Posted December 23, 2020 How do you keep straight lines with your oil canning? OC. mtaylor, Egilman, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 23, 2020 Share #112 Posted December 23, 2020 Know what I would do with the fresh decals - put one over the join line in the flight deck - great way of covering that join line. OC. mtaylor, Canute, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share #113 Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: How do you keep straight lines with your oil canning? Piece of cardboard! I’m thinking of masking the centre line as there is a Chanel that runs down the centre. there will also be a big bloody helicopter parked there! I ordered this set off the internet’s as it has the ships names as well which can go on the stern. There are safely signs all over the ship as well which I might just use cut up decals . Canute, BLACK VIKING, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted December 23, 2020 Share #114 Posted December 23, 2020 Greg that channel down the middle is probably the track part of the helicopter assisted recovery system (used to pull it into the hangar. Have a great Christmas. cheers Pat RGL, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 5 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share #115 Posted December 24, 2020 Thanks Pat, happy Xmas to you and yours as well. The deck can be quite detailed but as there will be a bloody great chopper plonked on it it won’t be so visible . popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share #116 Posted December 24, 2020 The priming tree BANYAN, popeye the sailor, Egilman and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share #117 Posted December 27, 2020 So painting and masking, base coat done for the big bits Old Collingwood, lmagna, Egilman and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 5, 2021 Share #118 Posted January 5, 2021 awesome job Greg........the structures look great Egilman, lmagna, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share #119 Posted January 5, 2021 Thanks, having a break from her at the moment, she’ll never look this clean again lmagna, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share #120 Posted January 19, 2021 To all my northern hemisphere friends ccoyle, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 4 others 4 3 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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