Wintergreen Posted February 2, 2021 Share #31 Posted February 2, 2021 Very good paint job! Impressive. I'm having troubles visualizing the size of the model. Can you add something for reference. A ruler will do 🙂 Keith Black 1 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted February 2, 2021 Share #32 Posted February 2, 2021 It comes out nicely. One can imagine that these were quite sturdy and powerful boats under sail ... Keith Black 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share #33 Posted February 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Wintergreen said: Very good paint job! Impressive. I'm having troubles visualizing the size of the model. Can you add something for reference. A ruler will do 🙂 Sure! Here is an 8-inch ruler... egkb, Siggi52, Wintergreen and 4 others 7 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share #34 Posted February 2, 2021 14 hours ago, wefalck said: It comes out nicely. One can imagine that these were quite sturdy and powerful boats under sail ... Yes, everything I have read suggests they were heavily built and tough! Keith Black 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share #35 Posted February 6, 2021 The masts are stepped and a lot of the rigging is done. Started adding details like mast wedges, rope coils, fish nets in the hold, and hatches askew. Also applied the registration number (LH 5) for Leith (Edinburgh), Scotland and dubbed her the "Lothian Lass." I have ancestors from that area, east of Edinburgh... GuntherMT, Keith Black, Rik Thistle and 12 others 15 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted February 6, 2021 Share #36 Posted February 6, 2021 'Lothian Lass' is looking very good, with lots of very interesting and creative features. Part of my family also comes from Leith and I have many fond memories of spending time there with my grandparents. Richard Gbmodeler and Keith Black 2 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted February 6, 2021 Share #37 Posted February 6, 2021 11 hours ago, Gbmodeler said: Also applied the registration number (LH 5) for Leith (Edinburgh), Scotland and dubbed her the "Lothian Lass." Very nice work, it's got that 'working boat' feel all over it. Good job on the lettering, can I ask how you did it? Keith Black 1 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted February 6, 2021 Share #38 Posted February 6, 2021 Same question as to the lettering ... Have you thought about making your own 'rope' ? Would add a tad more to the pretty good realism already. Keith Black 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share #39 Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, bruce d said: Very nice work, it's got that 'working boat' feel all over it. Good job on the lettering, can I ask how you did it? Thanks Bruce D! The lettering is made from water-slide decals from Microscale. They are individual letters and numbers made for model railroads, and come in various sizes, fonts, and colors. Keith Black 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share #40 Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, wefalck said: Same question as to the lettering ... Have you thought about making your own 'rope' ? Would add a tad more to the pretty good realism already. I see some folks make their own rope but I have not yet considered it. It does look better! Are there any tutorials anywhere??? Keith Black 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted February 6, 2021 Share #41 Posted February 6, 2021 There are lots of examples, just search for 'ropewalk'. It's not difficult and a ropewalk can be improvised easily - the guys of old also used 'home-spun' ropewalks. Properly done 'rope' is much tighter and better 'defined'. Particularly in the larger scale you are working in, this is quite visible. I think it would add a lot of extra value to your nice boats. Keith Black 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 6, 2021 Share #42 Posted February 6, 2021 Look here for a ton of tutorials on rope making and ropewalks https://modelshipworld.com/forum/82-discussions-about-rope-making/ and here https://modelshipworld.com/forum/83-rope-materials-and-parts-resources/ and here https://modelshipworld.com/forum/81-ropewalk-plansdownloads/ Keith Black, Ryland Craze and Gbmodeler 2 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 6, 2021 Share #43 Posted February 6, 2021 Really nice boat and a lot of small "extras". Love it! And may I salute Scotland for their historic win over the England today? I didn't watch the game, but the Admiral yelled her lungs out when the whistle blew. Gbmodeler and Keith Black 2 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share #44 Posted February 7, 2021 10 hours ago, wefalck said: There are lots of examples, just search for 'ropewalk'. It's not difficult and a ropewalk can be improvised easily - the guys of old also used 'home-spun' ropewalks. Properly done 'rope' is much tighter and better 'defined'. Particularly in the larger scale you are working in, this is quite visible. I think it would add a lot of extra value to your nice boats. Thanks for the hints Wefalck! You always have very constructive comments. mtaylor 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share #45 Posted February 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Chuck said: Look here for a ton of tutorials on rope making and ropewalks https://modelshipworld.com/forum/82-discussions-about-rope-making/ and here https://modelshipworld.com/forum/83-rope-materials-and-parts-resources/ and here https://modelshipworld.com/forum/81-ropewalk-plansdownloads/ Thanks Chuck! Loads of info out there! mtaylor 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share #46 Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) Sail making has begun. As I have shown on previous builds, it starts with cutting 15mm wide strips of graphic marker paper and gluing them together with diluted PA glue. The overlapping seams are 1mm wide. I embed wire under edge-trim pieces along the leech (sail's back edge) and the foot (sail bottom edge). The wire can be bent later, to make it appear the sails are filled with wind. I also embed loops of rope at the corners for clews. Here the fit is being tested... Next, the sails are colored, if needed. In this case a rusty mix of Tamiya acrylic model paint was airbrushed over the sails... Edited February 8, 2021 by Gbmodeler ccoyle, Moab, Wintergreen and 6 others 9 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted February 8, 2021 Share #47 Posted February 8, 2021 Did these sails have bolt-rope ? I think they would have had them to make them stronger. mtaylor 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted February 8, 2021 Share #48 Posted February 8, 2021 Fantastic looking sails! Gbmodeler, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share #49 Posted February 8, 2021 54 minutes ago, wefalck said: Did these sails have bolt-rope ? I think they would have had them to make them stronger. I think you are right. It's hard to see the finer details in the historic photos I have, and what I installed are more like bolt ropes... mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share #50 Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) After painting the sails, boat registry numbers were applied with dry transfer rub-on lettering. Then, burnt umber powdered pigment was gently rubbed-in with a makeup brush. This darkened the color and enhanced the highlights and recesses. I poked holes at appropriate locations for installation of reef lines. I find installing the reef lines very tedious business, but necessary... A knot is tied and the line is threaded through the hole Another knot is tied on the opposite side. The reef lines formed on both sides are extra long, to accommodate trimming later... Trimming the lines to equal lengths by using scissors and a piece of plastic tube, as a guide... The lines will be glued down with diluted PA glue, in the direction of gravity. Edited February 9, 2021 by Gbmodeler Keith Black, Rudolf, Wintergreen and 6 others 9 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share #51 Posted February 9, 2021 Here are all the reef lines installed... Rik Thistle, michael mott, Moab and 9 others 12 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE Posted February 9, 2021 Share #52 Posted February 9, 2021 Your sails are really great. Can you describe the paper you used in a bit more detail? Also, I’m wondering how you attached the wire to the foot and the leech. Beautiful, GB. Thanks! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Erik K. Evens Architect and sailor Evens Architects Currently building: Brig Sloop HMS Flirt - Vanguard Models Completed: "Lady Isabella" Scottish Fishing Zulu - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share #53 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, EKE said: Your sails are really great. Can you describe the paper you used in a bit more detail? Also, I’m wondering how you attached the wire to the foot and the leech. Beautiful, GB. Thanks! Thanks EKE. Here's some more info on the sail building... I found this graphic marker paper makes great raw material for sails... Cutting the strips... I find taping everything down before gluing helps to keep the panel lines even. Gluing is done with diluted white (PA) glue applied with a small brush. Excess glue is "dabbed" off (NOT rubbed) with cotton swabs... A finished sheet. At this stage, I sometimes have to go back and re-glue short segments of seams that did not stick with the initial gluing... I use patterns cut from copier paper (not shown) to get the final sail size and shape before I cut out the sail from the sheet. At this point, I sometimes put the sail between two paper towels and hit them with stream from a clothes iron to give them a little wrinkled texture. You have to be careful because the steam can re-activate the glue and make it stick to the paper towels a little. The paper towels protect the sails from direct contact with the iron. Don't want to get glue on the iron! I use strips of the graphic marker paper, folded in half ( the long way), as edge trim pieces. Both the wire and/or rope loops can be glued inside the seams. The trim is glued with the same diluted white glue. That's it! Edited February 10, 2021 by Gbmodeler Siggi52, Rudolf, GuntherMT and 6 others 8 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted February 10, 2021 Share #54 Posted February 10, 2021 Americans determine the weight of paper (and hence indirectly its approximative thickness) quite differently from us Europeans. They just give the weight, while we use grammes per square-metre (g/m^2). The weight is measured for a ream of 500 sheets of the paper in questions. Taking your layout-paper, I arrive at the following conversion: 0.229 m x 0.0305 m x 500 = 34.9 m^2. Dividing the weight, i.e. 13.5 x 455 g = 6142.5 g by 34.9 m^2, I arrive at 176 g/m^2, if my arithmetics are correct. This is in fact a very heavy paper for the purpose ... I am rather surprised. mtaylor 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted February 10, 2021 Share #55 Posted February 10, 2021 0.229 m x 0.0305 m An extra zero...leading to a factor of x10? Richard mtaylor 1 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted February 10, 2021 Share #56 Posted February 10, 2021 No, was just a typo in the post. Did the calculation twice ... mtaylor and Rik Thistle 2 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Thistle Posted February 10, 2021 Share #57 Posted February 10, 2021 Ah, OK. Thanks. Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ras Ambrioso Posted February 10, 2021 Share #58 Posted February 10, 2021 GB, thanks for your great description of sail making. I had a lot of trouble fixing the reef lines on my previous Emma Berry. Finally, I did exactly whaat you did but gluing the lines vertical became a mess. For my Fifie I was going to make each side independent with a little knot at the end. R Then I would glue the knots on each side if the hole in the sail. Let's see how this works out. You have great model there mtaylor, Keith Black and Gbmodeler 3 Quote Ras Current builds: Stern Paddle Wheeler ZULU-1916-1/48 scale Previous builds: Freccia Celeste-1927 350cc racing motorcycle-1:9 scale-Protar kit Boeing B17F- 1/72 scale- Hasegawa kit HMS Mimi-scale 1/24-Fast Motor Launch Amapá 1907-1/64 scale-Brazilian Customs Cruiser Scottish Motor Fifie. 1/32 scale. Amati kit Patricia. Steam powered R/C launch. 1/12 scale. Krick Kit African Queen. Steam powered R/C launch. 1/24 scale. Billings ki Emma C. Berry. Sailing fishing smack. 1/32 scale. Model Shipways kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share #59 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, wefalck said: Americans determine the weight of paper (and hence indirectly its approximative thickness) quite differently from us Europeans. They just give the weight, while we use grammes per square-metre (g/m^2). The weight is measured for a ream of 500 sheets of the paper in questions. Taking your layout-paper, I arrive at the following conversion: 0.229 m x 0.0305 m x 500 = 34.9 m^2. Dividing the weight, i.e. 13.5 x 455 g = 6142.5 g by 34.9 m^2, I arrive at 176 g/m^2, if my arithmetics are correct. This is in fact a very heavy paper for the purpose ... I am rather surprised. Wefalck, you will have to recalculate. I wish we used the European system for paper size. Ours is totally crazy! In the US system, the size of a sheet of paper for determining weight in a "ream" is not what is listed on the package (i.e. the dimensions of the paper as it is sold is not the same as the dimensions of the paper when it is weighed). The dimensions also vary by type of paper. So, assuming graphic marker paper is considered "sketch paper" when determining weight, the size of a sheet in a 500-sheet ream is 25 inches by 36 inches (635mm x 914.4mm). If this paper is not considered "sketch paper," then is is most likely considered "drawing paper." A sheet of "drawing paper" is 24 inches by 36 inches (609.6mm x 914.4mm) when determining the weight of a ream. I'm not sure of my skills using a micrometer, but I got 0.10mm for the thickness of a sheet of common copy paper and 0.065mm on the paper I use for sails... Edited February 10, 2021 by Gbmodeler mtaylor 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbmodeler Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share #60 Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Ras Ambrioso said: GB, thanks for your great description of sail making. I had a lot of trouble fixing the reef lines on my previous Emma Berry. Finally, I did exactly whaat you did but gluing the lines vertical became a mess. For my Fifie I was going to make each side independent with a little knot at the end. R Then I would glue the knots on each side if the hole in the sail. Let's see how this works out. You have great model there Sounds like your system will work well! mtaylor 1 Quote COMPLETED: Amistad Schooner, 1839, 1:96 Scale Zephyr Steam Boat, Puget Sound, Late 1800s, 1:96 Scale Chinese Junk (Fictional), 1:96 Scale Light Vessel 114, Fire Island, 1930, 1:93 Scale Bretagne, 1908 French Fishing Sloop, 1:48 Scale Barco Catalan, Late 1800s Spanish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Brazzera, 1908 Italian Boat for Fishing and Cabotage, 1:48 Scale Galway Hooker, Late 1800s Irish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Fifie, 1870 Scottish Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale Misainier, 1906 French Fishing Boat, 1:48 Scale U.S. Mine Sweeping Boat MSB-6, 1952, 1:96 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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