Flypast Posted February 21, 2021 #1 Posted February 21, 2021 Hello all, Well, here goes. My first wooden ship build. As much an education as a journey to try to do this lovely vessel justice. I am going to proceed fairly slow at the start, and hopefully, with the guidance from others here who have already done this, avoid at least any major errors. My work roster is 8 days on, 6 days off, so at best updates will be every other week. Nothing much to show just yet but given that some of these builds take years to finish, I figured it was worth putting some effort into a dedicated work table. As yet I haven't decided how i will support the keel, I am considering a couple of options. A few prelim pictures to get started. JR ccoyle, Pirategirl, ScottRC and 2 others 5 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
ccoyle Posted February 21, 2021 #2 Posted February 21, 2021 Good luck! Interesting shop you have there -- very tidy, and with an enviable stash of plastic kits in the background! Flypast and Pirategirl 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Flypast Posted February 22, 2021 Author #3 Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, ccoyle said: Good luck! Interesting shop you have there -- very tidy, and with an enviable stash of plastic kits in the background! Thank you, it is my happy place. 😎👌 JR Edited February 22, 2021 by Flypast Pirategirl 1 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Flypast Posted March 5, 2021 Author #4 Posted March 5, 2021 Quick update.... As I'm sure most will know, the right reference material is helpful. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Flypast Posted March 5, 2021 Author #5 Posted March 5, 2021 Just a dry mock up and clean up so far... ScottRC and Vladimir_Wairoa 2 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
kirill4 Posted March 5, 2021 #6 Posted March 5, 2021 Looks as an very seriоus start!!! From the above shown liturature, I like very much H.A.Underhill He is brilliaht!!! I knew He has books devoted exactly for making model from begining, He has a few volumes... ...but strange . You didn't nention them? Flypast 1 Quote Current Build: Spanish Galleon, Lee, 1:100 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6262-spanish-galleon-1607-by-kirill4-lee-plastic-1100/& https://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic10341/ Dutch 16-17 Arts Sailing Vessels in details https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio/1845326--kirill-shabanov/collections/arts
Flypast Posted March 5, 2021 Author #7 Posted March 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, kirill4 said: Looks as an very seriоus start!!! From the above shown liturature, I like very much H.A.Underhill He is brilliaht!!! I knew He has books devoted exactly for making model from begining, He has a few volumes... ...but strange . You didn't nention them? Yes ! You are correct 😎 Plank on Frame Models volume 1 and 2 ....i am seaching for these 👌 Also another of his , Sailing Ships Rigs and Rigging 👍 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
kirill4 Posted March 5, 2021 #8 Posted March 5, 2021 Thanks, Interesting...what is inside the book Robert Kipping "Masting and Rigging"? If possible, could You make a few pictures of content? Thank You very much! Regarding H.Underhill...I purchased his book here https://www.skipper.co.uk/catalogue/books/page Flypast 1 Quote Current Build: Spanish Galleon, Lee, 1:100 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6262-spanish-galleon-1607-by-kirill4-lee-plastic-1100/& https://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic10341/ Dutch 16-17 Arts Sailing Vessels in details https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio/1845326--kirill-shabanov/collections/arts
petervisser Posted March 5, 2021 #9 Posted March 5, 2021 Hi JR, As a fellow Cutty Sark builder, I will definately follow along with great interest. Although our kits differ, the ship is the same and it will be of interest to me how AL have designed their kit. I am envious of their hull decoration, which I believe is much better than Billing. From the pictures of your shop you appear to be very organized and I'm sure you will do the model justice. I also noticed that you have some liquid inspiration on your shelves. Don't forget to refer to the artwork on the bottles as well as the books to gain insight on the construction of the ship. 😉 All the best with your build! Peter Flypast and Vladimir_Wairoa 2 Quote Build Log: Billing - Cutty Sark In The Gallery: HMS Unicorn, HMAV Bounty, L'Etoile, Marie Jeanne, Lilla Dan, Zeeschouw "Irene" A Toast: To a wind that blows, A ship that goes, And the lass that loved a sailor!
Flypast Posted March 6, 2021 Author #10 Posted March 6, 2021 10 hours ago, petervisser said: I am envious of their hull decoration, which I believe is much better than Billing. I also noticed that you have some liquid inspiration on your shelves. Don't forget to refer to the artwork on the bottles as well as the books to gain insight on the construction of the ship. 😉 Kind words thank you Peter....the hull decorations are nice, i have only briefly looked them over and not sure what the original was made of (wood or metal)... i would like to, at some stage, try myhand at carving but only if it serves to improve. 👌 As for the liquid...purely for inspiration....i would much prefer a Sarsparilla 🤣 JR Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Old Collingwood Posted March 6, 2021 #11 Posted March 6, 2021 Some lovely kits in your stash also - that span most of my interests, good luck with the build - its been many years since I went over the real ship. OC. Flypast 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Flypast Posted March 6, 2021 Author #12 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) On 3/6/2021 at 1:15 AM, kirill4 said: Interesting...what is inside the book Robert Kipping "Masting and Rigging"? If possible, could You make a few pictures of content? Of course....its a nice little book.. published 1903...I have a closet fetish for the smell of old books. HaHa.. JR Edited March 11, 2021 by Flypast Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Flypast Posted March 6, 2021 Author #13 Posted March 6, 2021 30 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: Some lovely kits in your stash also - that span most of my interests, Thanks OC Errr...there are more...embarrassingly so....lol JR GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Old Collingwood Posted March 6, 2021 #14 Posted March 6, 2021 Looks good to me - lets hope we see some of them started in the other builds section where us - Tank. Plane, Car, Dio, Figure builders hang out aswel. OC. Flypast 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Pirategirl Posted March 6, 2021 #15 Posted March 6, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 1:34 AM, Flypast said: Hello all, Well, here goes. My first wooden ship build. As much an education as a journey to try to do this lovely vessel justice. I am going to proceed fairly slow at the start, and hopefully, with the guidance from others here who have already done this, avoid at least any major errors. My work roster is 8 days on, 6 days off, so at best updates will be every other week. Nothing much to show just yet but given that some of these builds take years to finish, I figured it was worth putting some effort into a dedicated work table. As yet I haven't decided how i will support the keel, I am considering a couple of options. A few prelim pictures to get started. JR you clearly love that workshop!! What will you do when you run out of space? Old Collingwood and Flypast 2 Quote
Dan112 Posted March 6, 2021 #16 Posted March 6, 2021 Frumoase poze cu imagini machete Old Collingwood and Flypast 2 Quote
Flypast Posted March 6, 2021 Author #17 Posted March 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Pirategirl said: you clearly love that workshop!! What will you do when you run out of space? Probably build up.....or down 🙃 Old Collingwood and Pirategirl 2 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Pirategirl Posted March 7, 2021 #18 Posted March 7, 2021 20 hours ago, Flypast said: Probably build up.....or down 🙃 Ooh a hobby dungeon! Flypast 1 Quote
Flypast Posted March 8, 2021 Author #19 Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) Nothing too exciting, finally started gluing. Given this is the first time, for me, working with wood, its a little daunting to make the first step. Slow and steady....😉 Edited March 8, 2021 by Flypast petervisser 1 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
hof00 Posted March 8, 2021 #20 Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) Nice start Chap!! I have the same A/L kit in my cupboard. I did attempt the older version, (Bare Bones), a few years ago. I got as far as the Keel/Bulkheads/Decking.... My Abyssinian cats broke and scattered the components far and wide chasing a sizeable Bush Rat inside the house.... I did attempt to rescue but a little too far gone. A long story short, decided on the Sergal/Mantua version. I embellished this with many aftermarket parts. One thing about this particular kit is the line of Portholes along the length of the ship, my feeling with this is not particularly good, there were only four portholes in the Bow, Port and Starboard. Anyway, I really shouldn't make my feelings of accuracy get in the way of your build. (I think this might be a Chinese kit thing when A/L was bought up. I believe they are now back in Spanish hands.)) A single POB model, take your time. (If you want to know, my C/S took me six and a half years of weekends, probably a max. of five hours a day esp. during rigging work. Have a think about steps in advance and always consider the "What If's." Mistakes are part of the wooden ship model journey and the lateral thinking to correct is always fun!! (I have made mistakes in every model ship kit that I have ever attempted, it's part of the journey.) Nice that you have the research material to hand. One other thing, you could get a hold of the Cutty Sark plans from the Cutty Sark Preservation Society, they don't cost too much and are an invaluable resource. (I'll see if I can find the URL for you.) Are you intending to Rig with sails? As mentioned previously in this thread, you do have an enviable collection of kits🙂, I'm taking a small break in wooden ship models trying to construct a 1/400 Titanic for my lady. it's proving quite challenging, at least the PE is. Anyway, enough of my chatter/opinions, there are many more on this site with much better "Sage" advice and experience. I wish you well in your endeavors and will keep an eye on proceedings if you don't mind. Cheers and Regards, HOF. (Harry) Edited March 8, 2021 by hof00 Flypast 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Flypast Posted March 8, 2021 Author #21 Posted March 8, 2021 Thanks HOF, 1 hour ago, hof00 said: Nice that you have the research material to hand. Are you intending to Rig with sails? Anyway, enough of my chatter/opinions, there are many more on this site with much better "Sage" advice and experience. I am always looking for more reseach material. At this stage I'm leaning to no sail, just rigging but that may change. All comments / opinions and advise are welcome and appreciated 😎👌 JR hof00 1 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Flypast Posted March 9, 2021 Author #22 Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) A couple of pics for now, Bulkheads are now all glued. Decks are dry fitted only to check for alignment. I suspect that this is the "easy" part and things will get interesting from here. Edited March 9, 2021 by Flypast hof00, GrandpaPhil, etubino and 1 other 4 Quote Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing – absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats. (The Wind in the Willows – Kenneth Grahame)
Rob B Posted June 1, 2021 #23 Posted June 1, 2021 I have just seen this and now wondering how it has progressed? Also to compliment you on what a great setup you have! I should have done something like that for my lockdown projects here in Melbourne instead of Jigsaw puzzles. I did the 1:96 Revel plastic model of both Cutty Sark and Thermopalaye back in the late 1970s. Bought the Imai plank on frame 1:80 plank on frame, but never really started it. Plans to build it and encompass it into a bar. I have those books on rigging I saw mentioned in an earlier post. My step father had them from when he did a model of the Golden Hind. I have that book The Log of the Cutty Sark, with the dust cover. Now thinking of clearing out the back shed of the home brew kits and Christmas decorations and making it into a modelling room... Flypast 1 Quote
Kevin Posted June 1, 2021 #24 Posted June 1, 2021 im following along, good luck with the build Flypast 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
LeoM Posted June 7, 2021 #25 Posted June 7, 2021 I am following your build log with great interest as my CS is in about the same stage of building. I will definitely learn a lot from your proceedings. Thank you Leo Flypast 1 Quote Leo Moons Nous sommes condamnés à être libre Present build: Cutty Sark by Sergal/Mantua 1:78 Previous builds: - Collie by Graupner RC Sailing boat - Blue Nose II by Billing Boats - Harvey by Artesania Latina - Oceanic by Revell RC Tugboat - Thyssen II by Graupner RC Pushing boat
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted June 13, 2021 #26 Posted June 13, 2021 Hello, I dare joining following bunch as well . welcome. looks very nice. Vlad Flypast 1 Quote
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