HMS Bounty by Trond - Billing Boats - 1:50

[Trond]

Finished the back rail on the ship.

And know I need to make some hinges. I've seen it some place where someone showed how they did it.

[LyleK1]

27 minutes ago, Trond said:

I didn't see his Bount. I guess I'm not to familiar how this web page works. But I understand what you are saying,

It's a painting.... Real good but limited in info based on the painting.

[michaelpsutton2]

I would imagine there were netting or weather cloths or something. Especially when attempting to round the horn.

[michaelpsutton2]

I am wondering what colors you  will use for the lady in the riding habit? Really admire the build and will be watching.

 

 

[LyleK1]

2 hours ago, michaelpsutton2 said:

I am wondering what colors you  will use for the lady in the riding habit? Really admire the build and will be watching.

 

 

I’m still contemplating that on my build… any suggestions?

[Trond]

I loved you drawin michaelpsutton2 and I would agree that it wouldn't unreasenable to have that on the ship sides.

So I tried making one, easier sead that done.

Started good 

 

But the problem was glueing the treads. I stole some sewingmachine thread from my wife.

The threads woulden glue with Medium CA+.

 

 

So does anybody know what I did wrong??

 

[michaelpsutton2]

I do not know of any documentary information other than "a lady in a riding habit". No color mentioned. "Riding habit" certainly implies more than a bust.

Edited February 27, 2022 by michaelpsutton2

[LyleK1]

1 hour ago, michaelpsutton2 said:

I do not know of any documentary information other than "a lady in a riding habit". No color mentioned. "Riding habit" certainly implies more than a bust.

Agreed... I read somewhere that Bligh had her updated to a more colorful scheme when they were in Tahiti. What that means...? I have no clue!

Since my version is depicted with Breadfruit plants, one must assume that the Bounty has been or is, in Tahiti.

... still don't know what I'm gonna do!

[Trond]

Couldn't give up that easy. So made a new more accurate jig.

 

 

Also did some changes to how I cris crossed the thread. Still had the same problem of glueing tocrossing threads with a drop of CA.

Ended up with using CA on the hole thing and it got stiff.

Hear is it place loosly in place.

 

I'm not sure and it was a lot of work.

Need to do some thinking hear. 🤔

[Keith Black]

 Trond, it looks great but have you thought about trying to use fiberglass window screen? 

 

 https://www.amazon.com/DocaScreen-Standard-Window-Screen-Roll/dp/B079YY5SJZ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=Window+Screen+Replacement&qid=1645995374&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQjVUMjgyOTJQTDVLJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjc4MjcwMVkzSjk3NEVNNzdDJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1NTE3NzAzSDBLTDcxVjhIMVZPJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

[Trond]

1 hour ago, Keith Black said:

 Trond, it looks great but have you thought about trying to use fiberglass window screen? 

 

 https://www.amazon.com/DocaScreen-Standard-Window-Screen-Roll/dp/B079YY5SJZ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=Window+Screen+Replacement&qid=1645995374&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQjVUMjgyOTJQTDVLJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjc4MjcwMVkzSjk3NEVNNzdDJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1NTE3NzAzSDBLTDcxVjhIMVZPJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Thanks Keith for the idea to use other material like screen. It would save me many hours of work. Haven't decided yet what to do

[Keith Black]

 Trond, I'm pretty sure you can get fiberglass screen in different weave sizes. 

[michaelpsutton2]

Yeah, I think it looks just about right

[Trond]

Worked on hinghes, but easier done than said. Bout some 0.12mm brass plate where I cut out a stripps. Bended the stripp and soldered.

 

 

Then I used CA to glue it to the wood and paint black.

I painted it black since I don't know how to use chemical process to make brass blue/black. Does anybody know how to do that?

 

[Keith Black]

 

[DaveBaxt]

10 hours ago, Trond said:

Worked on hinghes, but easier done than said. Bout some 0.12mm brass plate where I cut out a stripps. Bended the stripp and soldered.

 

 

Then I used CA to glue it to the wood and paint black.

I painted it black since I don't know how to use chemical process to make brass blue/black. Does anybody know how to do that?

 

I found this part of the Bounty build very tricky and I think you have made a very good effort and looks good. Well done and keep up the excellent work.

[Trond]

Finished the handrail and doing some testing if I'm going to use netting.

Next is installing the support pillars for the handrail canons. The ones that was in the kit is terible.

They are to big and wrong shape, so I had to make some new ones. 

I'm so glad I have the Bounty book.

 

Here is the first test of the new pillars.

 

 

They turned out nice, but a lot of work adjusting. Done 3 and 3 left.

[LyleK1]

3 hours ago, Trond said:

Finished the handrail and doing some testing if I'm going to use netting.

Next is installing the support pillars for the handrail canons. The ones that was in the kit is terible.

They are to big and wrong shape, so I had to make some new ones. 

I'm so glad I have the Bounty book.

 

Here is the first test of the new pillars.

 

 

They turned out nice, but a lot of work adjusting. Done 3 and 3 left.

Are those for the half pounders?

I think there are 10 total. I had to do the same with my kit. Made from 5x5mm stock... the kit ones were pathetic!

[Trond]

When I was looking in the Bount book for placeing the pillars correct I saw that there are 3 holed bellow deck on the side.

 

 

I see that most builders don't make them.

Does anybody know what they are for and more detail?

I think I've seen someone make these, but I can't find the log anymore.

 

[allanyed]

 https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-68763 shows these on the model at RMG but there are no lines running through them.  I thought they might be sheaves for lines to pass around and through the bulwark, but now not so sure. 

 

Allan 

[Trond]

I think I will skip the holes, at least for know.

 

I descided to extend the wale in accordence to the Bounty book. Needed some scraping to get a clean edge to glue the wood on.

 

 

 

 

 

[LyleK1]

On 3/19/2022 at 9:26 AM, allanyed said:

 https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-68763 shows these on the model at RMG but there are no lines running through them.  I thought they might be sheaves for lines to pass around and through the bulwark, but now not so sure. 

 

Allan 

I couldn't figure out their use either... left them off my rendition too.

[Trond]

Finished glued, sanded and painted.

 

 

[AJohnson]

On 3/19/2022 at 11:35 AM, Trond said:

When I was looking in the Bount book for placeing the pillars correct I saw that there are 3 holed bellow deck on the side.

 

 

I see that most builders don't make them.

Does anybody know what they are for and more detail?

I think I've seen someone make these, but I can't find the log anymore.

 

Hi Trond,

 

I wondered about these very same little details and was advised they were probably the additional "Air scuttles" Bligh had added for the plants in the great cabin.  (See post #49 in my build log)

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by AJohnson

[allanyed]

AJ

The idea of air scuttles may very well be the answer, but then I wonder why they would have the plants below deck with virtually no light.  Up on deck could be tough though in rough weather with salt spray on the plants although bread fruit plants are tolerant of salt spray for short periods.  Interesting stuff that comes out of the builds here at MSW!

Allan

[Gregory]

We also had this discussion in another Bounty log a while back..

 

 

[AJohnson]

20 minutes ago, Gregory said:

We also had this discussion in another Bounty log a while back..

 

 

Yes, this was my source, MSW is a mine of useful info, lots of people out there who are generous of their time and knowledge.

[Trond]

55 minutes ago, Gregory said:

We also had this discussion in another Bounty log a while back..

 

 

If they are suppose to be venting for the plant, it should be good enough with the two hatches and circulation. I would guess it would be a huge risk of getting sea water inside the ship if they are ventilation. Every time the ship have rough weather and the ship is "leaning over" due to sailing it is a big risk of getting water inside.

[Gregory]

There was also a drain system installed along with lead sheathing for the ' garden '..

 

The ' scuttles '  had covers according to AOTS .  However, covers are not apparent on the NMM drawings.  Seems that covers would be logical.

 

[Trond]

Started with the cleat or timber head, not sure what the difference is. In the Bounty book they look the same just different placing on deck.