usedtosail Posted October 11, 2013 Share #121 Posted October 11, 2013 That coaming is just perfect. Nice job. Quote - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Matson Posted October 11, 2013 Share #122 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Jeff Hayes used to sell a upgrade package of wood for the Conny. he is with Hobby Mill. Check with him and see if he still sells it. Edited October 11, 2013 by Geoff Matson Quote Geoff NRG member #2666Current build : USS Constitution Finished builds: Armed Virginia Sloop (in gallery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share #123 Posted October 11, 2013 Thanks all! Yea, I bought Jeff's package for the Conny, it's great. Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted October 12, 2013 Share #124 Posted October 12, 2013 Pray tell. What's in this upgrade package ?? Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share #125 Posted October 12, 2013 Jeff at Hobbymill had a wood package to replace the wood needed for deck furniture, planking etc. The last time I looked at his website it wasn't listed but if you contact him I bet he'd make one up for you! And of course you can buy anything else you need. I also bought some boxwood to replace the catheads and to try my hand a carving one of these days... CaptainSteve 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted October 12, 2013 Share #126 Posted October 12, 2013 Loving your work here Wes, great coaming and grating. mobbsie cookster 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share #127 Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) More Coamings.... The one on the right is the galley stack coaming,I cut the recess down in a router table. And done with these.... Now I'm scratchbuilding the "steps" that go to over the bowsprit as the MS version doesn't have them. I'm also making it out of lumber I milled myself! Edited October 14, 2013 by cookster capnharv2, lambsbk, Dubz and 3 others 6 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZyXuz Posted October 14, 2013 Share #128 Posted October 14, 2013 really neat works on the gratings.. Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted October 14, 2013 Share #129 Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Steps over the bow-sprit ??? I'm gunna need to see those !!! Edited October 14, 2013 by CaptainSteve Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted October 14, 2013 Share #130 Posted October 14, 2013 I really enjoy the work you are doing, the detail is outstanding. I also will be waiting to see the "Steps over the Bow-Sprit". Keep the pictures coming. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted October 14, 2013 Share #131 Posted October 14, 2013 As is typical with your work on this ship, your gratings and combings are perfect. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share #132 Posted October 14, 2013 Wow, thanks for all the compliments! Not sure I deserve them though.... Patrick - Perfect?? not sure about that but thanks for saying! Guess I should've said steps TO the bowsprit. See the image from the Hull model. Any of you that have, or have built, the Revell Conny might remember them. I'm pretty sure they're accurate to 1812'ish, but were removed sometime later. I'm just "winging it" based on my old Revell model and making it fit. About halfway done at this point.... No pics yet augie and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share #133 Posted October 15, 2013 OK, here's the bowsprit steps Glued up the sides and trimed to fit the bow bullwarks I glued the sides together with a piece of basswood as a spacer to fit over the bowsprit Then added the planks Finished... Almost Still have to add the step treads, but I'm saving that for later until I get the bow rail on and make sure there's no fit issues fatih79 and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share #134 Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Here's the steps. I'm not sure how historically accurate this is, but it works for me and I like it And I LOVE working with this pear wood... If any of you that haven't tried hardwoods are on the fence about it, by all means do it!!! You'll love it,,, Here's what I'm after... Another dry dock shot... Edited November 8, 2013 by cookster Dubz, augie, fatih79 and 1 other 4 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #135 Posted October 19, 2013 Quick update as the weekend starts.... Got the mast and deck coming supports in place to prepare for deck planking. This weekend I plan to correct a couple more things that will get her back to her 1812 configuration... The the front gunport which on this version is called an anchor port, but should be a gunport. It's the wrong size and in the wrong location. Also cut out the bullwarks amidships, there should be an open waist here... I've been looking ahead to the carronades, and once again there's a lot of info to digest. The version of carronade on the MS model with the 4 carriage wheels is apparently wrong. The carriage should as be the version on the Revell model with the front center pivot on the gunport. If any of you have info on this I'd love to see it... Thanks again for looking in and following along!! Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 19, 2013 Share #136 Posted October 19, 2013 She just keeps on growing. Probably said it before but I'm really impressed by your planking. Looking forward to the deck planking. It'll be the size of a bowling alley Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share #137 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Thanks Augie! As far as the planking, I've been working with wood my entire life in some form or another, just never a wooden ship model until this. So working with wood is natural to me. It never entered my mind to not try and make sure there were no gaps between any planks,or not to sand it good and smooth. I shaped every plank in some way, whether back beveling, thinning, tapering - whatever it took. Was it tedious? You bet, but I enjoy the satisfaction I got from it. And to my benefit (or detriment) I have those images of Chuck's Syren and Winchelsea perfect planking burned in my mind... So maybe I took planking a little too seriously, but hey, I'm happy with it!And I really do appreciate everyone's compliments on my planking, I hope the rest of my build continues that trend! Edited October 21, 2013 by cookster augie 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share #138 Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Working on the former anchor port. Cut out the inner planking. Installed new planking ran long to give me something to attach to. Cut out the outer planking and Installed a new gunport frame and braced it Now working on the outer planking Edited October 20, 2013 by cookster fatih79 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share #139 Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Removal of the waist bullwark. Cut out the old planking and installed a new frame on the front opening. The rear opening has a bulkhead in the correct place so will use that as the frame, Finished it up. Looks much better like this I think... Now just have to repeat on the starboard side... Edited October 21, 2013 by cookster fatih79 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted October 21, 2013 Share #140 Posted October 21, 2013 Gorgeous work Wes. The upgraded wood looks fantastic. I think I'm going to go that route on my next build(s). Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share #141 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Started on the deck planking using boxwood from HobbyMill. I used a #2 pencil to shade the plank edges to simulate caulking. I'm using Bob Hunt's practicum method of planking around the coamings. I think this is a good method, but since I'm cutting the planks around the coamings I have to be absolutely sure the planks are aligned. To do this I found and marked the centerline with 1/4" tape (thanks Chuck P.!!) and glued temporary guides on the bulkheads on the centerline, and used a steel rule as a guide for the planks. I offset 3 planks to get the edge of the steps over the bowsprit. These first planks set the baseline for all the planking so they must me accurate! I glued this section of planking off the model so I could straighten the edges with my true sander and bevel the edge that fits over the steps. Fitted in place. The next section around the mast was first glued as three planks, trued up, and then cut the opening for the mast Glued on the other three planks then finished the mast opening. BTW, I realized the green cutting mat is messing up the color in my pics so I need to avoid that! Edited October 21, 2013 by cookster Pygothian and fatih79 2 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share #142 Posted October 21, 2013 Glued in place (but not the caoming!) The slight gap around the mast will be covered up with the mast boot. Dubz and fatih79 2 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted October 21, 2013 Share #143 Posted October 21, 2013 Your deck planking is amazing! I like the idea of including the steps to cover that part of the bowsprit. I haven't really seen (maybe just not paid attention to) that feature on other builds of the Connie. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 Current: Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 21, 2013 Share #144 Posted October 21, 2013 OK, I'll be the dope. What is a 'true sander' ? Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share #145 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Darn, I gave away one of my secrets.... I use this for ANYTHING that needs a true edge. On this build that's pretty much everything!! Cut it close, then sand true. Look at my coamings for example, I ran the edges long on purpose - then trued them up with the true sander. NWSL (Northwest Shortline) makes some great modeling tools. I've probably had this 10 years, if not more http://www.nwsl.com/ A JimDiskSander would be the powertool version of this but I'll keep using this for a now. The JimSaw comes first! I googled it and several places sell it - http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=NW57-4 Also look for the Chopper (or Chopper II) http://www.amazon.com/Northwest-Short-Line-The-Chopper/dp/B000YDIMZS Patrick, thanks!! I haven't seen any other MSW Connys kitbashed to include the steps, but the Revell Conny Model has them, the Hull model has them, so I'm taking a leap of faith that they are appropriate to 1812. At least they are on my version... Edited October 21, 2013 by cookster trippwj 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 21, 2013 Share #146 Posted October 21, 2013 Is THAT what that's for! Hmmmm....may need to put it on my wish list. And it's not a power tool so it's right up my alley. Of course I already hold the patent rights on the 86 degree right angle. Old habits die hard capnharv2 and lambsbk 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share #147 Posted October 21, 2013 Augie said... "Of course I already hold the patent rights on the 86 degree right angle. Old habits die hard" Well Augie, if you cut the matching angle to 94 degrees, your go to go!! I trued up most of my hull planking ends by hand with a sanding block. I tried to keep the joints in line with the bulkheads so that meant in a lot of cases the angle wasn't 90 degrees, so some trial and error was involved. Maybe I should invest in your of your 86 degree angle guess-ti-mators? The neat thing about the true sander is the way the aluminum sanding block is made. The surface the sandpaper sticks to is milled down slightly from the rubbing rail that rides against the fence. That way you always have firm contact against the rubbing rail but the sandpaper never touches it. And, there's 4 sides to the block so you can have 4 different grits on the block at once if you want! It's an ingenious little design... I love this simple little tool. augie 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygothian Posted October 22, 2013 Share #148 Posted October 22, 2013 Looking immaculate. Beautiful lines and so smooth cookster 1 Quote Current Build - US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 - 1st wood build Armed Virginia Sloop with complimentary 8x paint MS paint set - Model Shipways - Ordered 31st October 2013 Victory Cross Section - Corel - Ordered 15th October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookster Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share #149 Posted October 26, 2013 Spent the last week painting the bullwarks. I want to paint them before I plank the deck. I'm using Floquil Southern Green. It looks a little dark in the pics, it's actually not quite this dark. First 2 coats, thinned about 60%. I wanted to avoid brush marks. It's been quite the struggle to get it like I want it, but I think I'm almost there. I wanted to try Chuck's acrylic method, but I already had this paint the color I wanted and didn't want to have to mix it from scratch. I'm planning on testing acrylic for the gun carriages.... After 5 coats, the last 2 at full strength. I think I may add one more before the poly. As soon as I get the bullwark finish where I want I will will resume deck planking... fatih79 1 Quote Wes Cook Current Build: USF Constitution (Model Shipways) USF Essex (Scratch build) MS Syren (build log lost, need to rebuild) Future Builds: MS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 26, 2013 Share #150 Posted October 26, 2013 Looks about right from here. But the best judge of it is your eye. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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