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Thanks Kevin and Mort,

 

I will check it and if so i will put 2 more…..

Or i can make the suggestion and make close lids?

we will see but thanks again!

 

Sjors

 

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Found it!

Indeed on the drawing there are 2 more  gun ports on both sides at the bow.

When i take a look at the book The Anatomy of Nelson’s ships they are closed gun ports.

So i think i will do the same.

One thing only… are the lids flush with the planking or are they laying on the planking?

Maybe someone knows the answer?

 

Sjors

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Hi Sjors,

The following images are how I did mine, hope you don't mind uploading them on your log, thought they might be of help to you.

 

For the middle gun deck I cut the windows to look like they are ajar when fixed directly on the hull.

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For the lower gun deck I just trimmed a tiny groove on the hull to represent the gun port lid.

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Regards

Robert

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Hi Robert,

 

This is just great and what i’m looking for!

Thanks and i don’t mind it at all that you upload such pictures 😄

You have now another fan……my wife 😄

 

Sjors

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i never regretted my lids shut,  i did it because there were not that many around at the time 

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I will leave them open kevin.

It's a shame of all those cannons that I've go.

And I just love painting ( and telling fairytails 🙂 )

 

Sjors

 

 

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The gallery's are on it.

They are more difficult then I thought but they are on now.

And I like it how it looks.

I also get started the double planking.

Just a small part because of the sils.

Some are flush and other are a little inside the second planking.

The manuel is telling me that I have to go downwards with the second planking but I go upwards.

First I will make all the gunport sills and the inner bull wark.

When that is finished I will go down.

Don't ask me why I do it his way but for me it feels a little better.

And I follow Heinz his way of building......

Enough talking.

Pictures!

 

Sjors

 

 

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looking good, enjoy your sills

 

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Hello to all you young ones 🙂

 

I have a problem !

Maybe I did something wrong but I can not find what.

I wanted to putt in the sills.

The gun ports are not in line!

These are the gun ports just above the deck.

De inner bull wark template is placed correct ( I think )

The first picture you can see that the inner bull wark is to high.

When I take some material away it looks better.

At picture 3 you can see what I mean with that the gun port is to high.

But when I place the carriage I see that the wheels are for the half above the gun port.

When you take a look ( picture 4) to the inner bull wark you see that it goes upwarts in an angle en not level.

I know...strange.

Is there any solution?

Who can help me with it.

I all ready remove all the sills.

 

Sjors

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Sjors,

I had exactly the same problem with my build. If you do a search for my build log you will see how I overcame it.

You'll find that it's a minor glitch, easily fixed and not visible once the planking is finished. 

Enjoying your build - keep up the great work!

Cheers,

Graham

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When I dry fitted my bulworks they were not the proper height. I had to trim the lower edge of my inner bulwork in order for the guns to be properly aligned.  I believe I had to trim 3-4 mm from the lower edge.

 

Mort

Current Build - Caldercraft Victory

 

Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William 

 

Waiting to be Launched -  Bluejacket Constitution

 

 

Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society

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Thank Graham and Mort.

 

@Graham,

 

You make me an happy camper!

It is not my mistake 😃

I will look for your log and will see what i have to do.

 

@Mort,

 

I all ready remove a part

Also 3 or 4 mm.

But still……

 

Sjors

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Sjors, 

 

difficult to tell what you did wrong. I also had very big problems placing the cannon gates in the right places. 

For the top row, I thought about what could happen in advance. The worst would be if the cannon gates were cut too deep. Then I would have had to file away the wheels of the cannons if they stand too high. If the cannon gates are too high, it doesn't look nice either. It was therefore clear to me that I first had to plank the deck and then use a cannon to determine the correct height of the cannon gates. I only trust on myself and what I see and not on a drawing or a prefabricated part in the construction kit.

Then I inserted the frames in the gates and attached the second planking outside in the last step.

 

What has you to do now? Same as what I wrote above! Align the cannon gates with the height of the cannon and move the gates to the right position. Unfortunately, you have to redo part of your planking. This is annoying, but the result will be worth it.

Many greetings
Heinz

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Thanks Heinz,

 

I don’ t mind to do a little demolition.

I all ready done that.

I have removed several planks on the inner side of the bull wark.

But then i thougt….i’m not to proud to ask so i did.

It’s weekend and i don’t do any building in the weekend because my wife is also free from work and the we spend money in the city 😛

Monday i will continue to see what i can do.

 

Sjors

 

(You live closer to us then i thought……)

 

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If 

12 minutes ago, Heinz6672 said:

Well, then get in touch if you ever jump over the border :). You are invited!

On 27 september we are crossing  the border if Covid 19 allowed us.
We go for a few days to Bollendorf, close to Trier.

And on thursday the plan is to go to Monchau.

We keep in touch.

I wanted to see your Victory IRL

 

 

Sjors

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Thanks to Charter 33 ( Graham ) and Mort Stoll I have finished the gun ports.

I think it is just fine.

Bit more work then i thought but that's no problem.

I have painted them and also placed the planking on the inner bulwark and painted it also.

How Robert get that so smooth is for me a miracle.

And because there is another deck on it you don't see a thing!

 

Sjors

 

 

 

 

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The fun part of second planking is done.

Also the second fun part of sanding is also done.

Now it's gonna be time for the bulwarks.

Measure, measure, measure

But that's for tomorrow....

 

Sjors

 

 

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She looks great, Sjors, and I can't believe how quickly you are making progress! At this rate, you'll be done by Christmas!

Bob Garcia

"Measure once, cuss twice!"

 

Current Builds: 

Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models

Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28

 

Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. 

Member of the Nautical Research Guild

 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, BobG said:

She looks great, Sjors, and I can't believe how quickly you are making progress! At this rate, you'll be done by Christmas!

Thanks Bob,

 

But there is a reason for being so fast 🙂

 Because of my sickness i can not work and be at home all the time.

And because of Covid-19 ,my wife is working at home in the living room.

In the morning at 07.00 hour i ‘ll be send to the hobby room till 15.00 hour.

I only can leave the room for a cup of coffee and lunch.🤣

And Christmas is still far away……..

 

Sjors

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7 hours ago, Jim Lad said:

She really looks a treat, mate!

 

John

Thanks John 😁

 

59 minutes ago, Malcolm Greig said:

Excellent planking, I'm really enjoying your build. Thanks for sharing your very rapid progress. 

 

regards

 

Malcolm

Thanks Malcolm,

 

Nice that you enjoy my build😊

If i go to fast, tell me and i will slow down a bit….😛

End of the month the Victory  is abandoned for a week…..

 

Sjors

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Superb work, Sjors! I think this model may end up being the flagship of your impressive fleet!

Bob Garcia

"Measure once, cuss twice!"

 

Current Builds: 

Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models

Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28

 

Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. 

Member of the Nautical Research Guild

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, BobG said:

Superb work, Sjors! I think this model may end up being the flagship of your impressive fleet!

Thanks Bob,

 

It should be the only one because the other models are with friends, neighbors, restinghome,trashcan 🙂

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