La Mahonesa 1789 by native one - scale 1/48

[native one]

Working on the stern was a lesson in patience,tried to rush it and ended breaking more wood than I put on trying  to get it to bend,my first time working with Alaskan yellow cedar and trying to bend it,took alot of trial and error before I found what works best,finished the structural framing on the stern then finished up installing the rest of the wales.

[a.sorolla]

Happy to see such good advances in the La Mahonesa.
Good continuation

Adrián

[native one]

After the wales were on I removed the temporary supports on the bulwarks,cut in the gunports for the upper deck,and proceeded to add a little planking to the upper works. 

[native one]

Began cutting out the gunports,not going  to  put  in the sills until  later,stained the framing of the hull,then bolted and stained the wales.

[native one]

A little  more  progress, lower counter planked,limber strakes installed and orlop deck clamps,I made up the riders and they really  helped with getting things lined up and the deck clamps at the right height. 

 

Edited January 30, 2023 by native one

[native one]

Installed the gundeck clamp,used the riders that I made Earlier to help to get the clamps to the right height ,then did some more bolting and staining on the exterior. 

[native one]

Installed the stringers that run the length of the hull,I used the cutouts in the riders to get an idea where they went,they followed the first futtock joint most of their  length before having to come together at the bow and stern,spanish ships used two rows of stringers on their hulls compared to other countries. 

[native one]

    finished up the strakes and began little        planking,also built the platform for the.       gunpowder storage.                                  planked the floor but I'm really.                      debating if I should leave some.                    planking off on the sides so you.                    can view some of the interior.    finally put in the cills around the gun.            ports.

[native one]

well I came to a decision on the planking,to leave some out of the center just in case I feel like removing some of the framing to view the interior so I am just planking the bow up to the first rider,and planking the stern up to the last rider,then made up the frames of the orlop deck in the areas where the bulwarks of the hold extend all the way up to the bottom of the orlop.

[ChrisLBren]

Looks really nice !  Is the black planking painted, dyed or ebony used ?  Nice work !

[giampieroricci]

excellent work!
It's just a pity about those wood grains that are too obvious

[JGR]

Quote...."It's just a pity about those wood grains that are too obvious"

 

As a fairly new member that has not submitted my build log, I did not realize that we should be hiding wood grains. Since I like wood, I am certainly not planning to hide it. We are in fact building wood models of wooden ships. 

 

I certainly will reconsider posting my building log of Ancre 1/48 scale wooden model of "L'Egyptienne" 

 

Greg

[ccoyle]

53 minutes ago, JGR said:

As a fairly new member that has not submitted my build log, I did not realize that we should be hiding wood grains. Since I like wood, I am certainly not planning to hide it. We are in fact building wood models of wooden ships. 

 

I certainly will reconsider posting my building log of Ancre 1/48 scale wooden model of "L'Egyptienne" 

 

I'm quite certain that Giampiero intended no slight by his comment. Speaking as one who is well acquainted with the difficulty of expressing nuanced opinions in a foreign language, I tend to give non-native English speakers a great deal of benefit of the doubt before reading motive into their messages.

[DaKea90]

I have to say, I really do like, that the wood for this model has visible grain, which on top has a nice colour and pattern.

[native one]

On 2/14/2023 at 4:29 AM, ChrisLBren said:

Looks really nice !  Is the black planking painted, dyed or ebony used ?  Nice work !

It's ebony stain.

[native one]

18 hours ago, giampieroricci said:

excellent work!
It's just a pity about those wood grains that are too obvious

I'm aware of the wood grain showing thru, I'm actually a finish carpenter and the Alaskan yellow cedar I'm using are cuttings from trim work and cabinetry so some of it is aged and not really the best cuttings,and the grains are making it more of a challenge,it's harder to work with and brittle,so shaping and bending has it's own challenges that I have to improvise and overcome.

[native one]

9 hours ago, JGR said:

Quote...."It's just a pity about those wood grains that are too obvious"

 

As a fairly new member that has not submitted my build log, I did not realize that we should be hiding wood grains. Since I like wood, I am certainly not planning to hide it. We are in fact building wood models of wooden ships. 

 

I certainly will reconsider posting my building log of Ancre 1/48 scale wooden model of "L'Egyptienne" 

 

Greg

Sometimes we have to use what we have available to us,boxwood and pear are the preferred woods people like to see in ship modeling,but there is other woods that are more accessible to some of us,this 110 gun ship of the line I'm finishing up is actually made out of ponderosa pine and juniper cedar from my backyard,which is a really grainy wood and a softwood but with alot of it painted over you can't even tell the difference unless you really look close at it.

[native one]

The bulwark that separates the gunpowder storage from the rest of the hold calls for a brick filled wall for protection if there is ever a fire aboard so I used some clay to make the bricks and fired them in a friend's kiln to harden them,it calls for both sides of the wall to be covered with wood to enclose the bricks but I chose to leave one side open so you can actually see the bricks,then made up and put In a few gunpowder barrels.

[ccoyle]

9 hours ago, native one said:

I'm using are cuttings from trim work and cabinetry so some of it is aged and not really the best cuttings,and the grains are making it more of a challenge,it's harder to work with and brittle,so shaping and bending has it's own challenges that I have to improvise and overcome.

 

Well, I think it's safe to say that you are turning those scraps into something substantially more valuable!

[native one]

The last bulwark to put in the powder magazine was for storage of the cartridges, then the hatchways,there just sitting on there framework for now,they are actually mounted on top of the decking.

[native one]

There wasn't much room in the powder magazines of the Mahonesa's as shown by my scale guy,very tight quarters to be maneuvering around in.

[rookie]

exceptional work! 

Love the wood grain; gives a bit of interest

[giampieroricci]

On 2/15/2023 at 9:30 PM, ccoyle said:

 

I'm quite certain that Giampiero intended no slight by his comment. Speaking as one who is well acquainted with the difficulty of expressing nuanced opinions in a foreign language, I tend to give non-native English speakers a great deal of benefit of the doubt before reading motive into their messages.

I apologise, it was not my intention to criticise anyone. I just wanted to point out that the finish and the excellent work expressed deserved a better type of wood, the grain of which is too pronounced compared to the scale of the model, that's all!

Forgive me if sometimes I cannot express my concepts well, I do not know English perfectly, I help myself with a translator who does not always do his job well!

[native one]

Began working on the middle part of the hold,and started putting together the pump well with it's access doors and ladders still needs the shot locker attached to the front,cut out and put in the Sampson posts.

[native one]

Finished putting  together  the  pump  well and got the the shot locker mounted in the front of it,just need to install  the handles for the sliding access doors.

[Gus M]

I just found this thread right now, an impressive project, I'm liking it, I'm going to follow it of course, your work is really fantastic. Congratulations

[Blas de Lezo]

On 2/16/2023 at 5:33 AM, native one said:

I'm aware of the wood grain showing thru, I'm actually a finish carpenter and the Alaskan yellow cedar I'm using are cuttings from trim work and cabinetry so some of it is aged and not really the best cuttings,and the grains are making it more of a challenge,it's harder to work with and brittle,so shaping and bending has it's own challenges that I have to improvise and overcome.

 

I would say that regardless one likes or not the "grainy wood" finishing, is refreshing to see different options and ways to build the models, one thing is to imagine and a different thing is to see. Now, thanks to your project I can decide if I use a more or less grainy wood in a project of myself because I can see how the results are. Thank you very much. By my side, I would consider a grainy wood since I like what I see in your project.

 

V

Edited February 24, 2023 by Blas de Lezo

[druxey]

Personal taste makes each model different. One has to please oneself first!

[native one]

Finally finished the pump well and mounted it permanently, there are two beams in the hold that go thru the pump well and they have to be placed so the front one is right in front of the mast when it is put in and the rear one that  the down tube for the chain pumps has to sit against,took me some time to get them exactly  where they go but I  got them,then I  moved on up to the front of the hold and installed the forward platform which numerous storage rooms will be built,and with the pump well in place I  was able to continue building the beam supports for the orlop deck.

[native one]

Planked the floor  in the hold, now to began construction of the storerooms that fill in that part of the hold,and still need laders down to light room and powder magazine,but first I'll probably need to put in some more deck beams of the orlop deck so I can tell which ones cut thru the walls of the storage rooms.