Scratchie Posted November 3, 2022 #1 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) Hello everyone, I've just joined this forum and look forward to reading many posts. I've a lot of wood model building (mostly RC airplanes), both by kit and scratch build, and have built two WWII ship kits, a Cutty Sark kit, and scratch built the SS Shenking merchant steamer. Next project is the AL San Francisco galleon. Most questions I have will be about rigging and choosing stain colors. Edited November 3, 2022 by Scratchie RossR, mtaylor, ccoyle and 3 others 6
Charles Green Posted November 3, 2022 #2 Posted November 3, 2022 Welcome Scratchie: Along with myself, both sides of my family are from Minnesota: Motley (near Brainard), Parkers Prairie (near Alexandria) and Minneapolis. Most are still in the state. I graduated from the U in '76 - Forestry. I've been in Idaho for 30 + years but still look forward to visits to Minnesota. Keith Black and mtaylor 2
bruce d Posted November 3, 2022 #3 Posted November 3, 2022 Hello Scratchie, welcome to MSW from the UK! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold
ccoyle Posted November 3, 2022 #4 Posted November 3, 2022 Welcome aboard, Scratchie! Keith Black 1 Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Mitsubishi A6M5a, WAK SBLim-2A
Dave_E Posted November 3, 2022 #5 Posted November 3, 2022 Welcome to the forum! 👍😀 mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
mtaylor Posted November 3, 2022 #6 Posted November 3, 2022 Welcome to MSW, Scratchie. Dave_E and Keith Black 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Baker Posted November 3, 2022 #7 Posted November 3, 2022 Keith Black, mtaylor and Dave_E 3 Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Knocklouder Posted November 3, 2022 #8 Posted November 3, 2022 The Place to Be !!! WELCOME TO MSW!!!! mtaylor, Keith Black and Dave_E 3 "Start so you can Finish!" In progress: Astrolabe 1812 - Mantua 1:50; In queue: Pegasus - Amati 1:64 Completed: The Dutchess of Kingston - 1:64 Vanguard Models 🙂 Santa Maria - 1:64, La Pinta - 1:64, La Nina - 1:64, Hannah Ship in a Bottle - 1:300, The Mayflower - 1:64, Viking Ship Drakkar -1:50 all by Amati. King of the Mississippi - Artesania Latina - 1:80 Queen Anne's Revenge - Piece Cool - 1:300 The Sea of Galilee Boat - Scott Miller - 1:20
Keith Black Posted November 3, 2022 #9 Posted November 3, 2022 Scratchie, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard. Dave_E, mtaylor and bruce d 3 Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
GrandpaPhil Posted November 5, 2022 #10 Posted November 5, 2022 Welcome! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Edwardkenway Posted November 5, 2022 #11 Posted November 5, 2022 Scratchie, welcome to MSW mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 - on hold HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64 - FINISHED Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - FINISHED Providence whaleboat- 1:25 - FINISHED Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
allanyed Posted November 5, 2022 #12 Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) On 11/3/2022 at 11:43 AM, Scratchie said: Most questions I have will be about rigging First, a warm welcome to MSW. On which San Francisco is this kit based ? There were several but if it is a San Francisco from the 1600's or earlier The Rigging of Ships in the Days of the Spritsail Topmast by Anderson may be a help to you. I found copies on line from a few dollars to over $50. https://www.ebay.com/itm/353709226806 There may be other books that are more appropriate for the era you are working on, but definitely look for contemporary based information to supplement the kit information. Looking at the rigging in photos of the model, there are some things that you might want to delve into such as round deadeyes and the presence of belaying pins. Allan Edited November 5, 2022 by allanyed mtaylor and Keith Black 2
Louie da fly Posted November 13, 2022 #13 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Hi Scratchie and welcome. I'd second Allan's recommendation about The Rigging of Ships in the Days of the Spritsail Topmast. Looking at AL's model, it seems to be based on the type of galleon in use in the second half of the 16th century (for example, it has a stern gallery - fairly rare before the end of the century, though I know of a couple of examples from 1555 - but no spritsail topmast). The book starts somewhat later (1620) but it's often possible to extrapolate backwards on the basis that rigging didn't change all that fast. I'm working on a ship from 1545 and this is still the best book I've been able to find, despite it being even further away from my time period than from yours. Another thing you might find helpful is a collection I made of contemporary pictures of galleons on Pinterest - https://www.pinterest.com.au/lowe1847/galleons/ . And you should also check out some of the galleon build logs, particularly Backer's Pelican/Golden Hind - he put a lot of work and research into getting all the details as right as he possibly could (and the model's amazing). Make sure you start a build log - it's the best way to get help and advice, and we get to see a beautiful model taking shape. And have fun with it! Edited November 13, 2022 by Louie da fly Keith Black, mtaylor and Knocklouder 3 It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
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