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The next update, the rear shock brackets and spring brackets...

 

What they look like in place....

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The shock brackets were easy a slight difference in shape and location, Unfortunately the spring brackets needed a complete redesign...

 

Here they are in their real configuration... (where they live)

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And what they look like out of the car...

 

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And of course an overall shot of where she sits today.....

 

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The basic frame is complete except for the little things like the occasional bolt head, the holes that mount nothing but are there,,, and such things like that I'll add them when I get to them...

 

Going forwards now, deciding which way to go,,, Probably the suspension next, need to get back to a rolling chassis....

 

Anyway, following the path now....

 

Onwards brothers...

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Now, this is impressive. Its one thing to design a hull on CAD, but these complex shapes like brake handle and gear selector or the gearbox, this is on another level! 

Hope all go well with your health.

 

Vaddoc

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, vaddoc said:

Now, this is impressive. Its one thing to design a hull on CAD, but these complex shapes like brake handle and gear selector or the gearbox, this is on another level! 

Why Thank You Vad, I've been into engineering drawing for a long time, mostly paper & ink, occasionally vellum... Mechanical drawing mostly aircraft & machinery but some surveying and spatial representations, (read technical illustration) A couple of years ago I decided to learn how to do it on computer, I'm no expert and it has taken a while to get the hang of it but I'm getting there... It definitely getting faster, but that is practice...

 

I know enough to know that line drawing hulls for ships is a very technical genre of drawing has it's own issues separate from pure mechanical drawing... That is why Marine engineering is it's own separate science and art... It does flow over into pure mechanical drawing and design from time to time but only after the purely marine design elements are mostly done... It's every bit a technically demanding a field as aircraft design... Doth are derivatives of mechanical design, specializations if you will of the basic core skill... I've done some fuselage work in the aircraft industry and know that some of that experience will translate to ship hull drawing...

But I'm not there yet... (hope to get there eventually, sooner rather than later) There are some ships I want to build before the end and since there are no models or easily available plans, I'll have to do it by reverse engineering off pictures... Which is what I'm doing here... Honing the skills required...

 

I know enough and have been advised that Rhino is the software to use for ship hull modeling and the little I've played with it has shown me the way, so hence the title of this pathway into modeling, getting back into and keeping my head in the game...

 

2 hours ago, vaddoc said:

Hope all go well with your health.

As far as my health, right now it's stable, the last scans said I am clear of tumors, the nature of the cancer doesn't allow for a remission diagnosis or proclamation, and I will be receiving treatment for it the rest of my life... (currently in my third cycle of Chemo) But then with the grace of the man above, I'll get done what I need to get done... And there is no sense in worrying about it, when it's my time it's my time which isn't today... Thank you for the kind words and thoughts, they help a lot....

 

EG

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Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Another Update, I know it's been a while, but this part took a bit of time to re-design....

 

Front Springs...

 

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And the bottoms....

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All correctly laid out...

 

They might look a little weird when compared to normal leaf springs, this is because they are asymmetric leaf springs... Asymmetric means that one end is longer than the other...

 

This particular set of springs were 2" x 35" with a 15" forward axle mounting point leaving 20" behind the axle.... They have been through 8 iterations before I could finally get them to configure into a solid block and still look like the real thing...

 

An overall view...

 

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They do look good if I do say so myself... {chuckle}

 

Anyways, I'll be taking a few days to do some RL stuff before starting on the rear springs... (shouldn't be too bad as I now know how to do them)

 

That's all for now, Onwards.....

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Update;

 

Well starting off the rear springs, First we need the mounting plate....

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The spring lays across the top and is bolted through the bottom on all four corners.... It also pivots on the shaft of the Mounting Bracket...

 

Here it is attached to it's bracket....

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And in it position in the frame....

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Next up, the upper rear spring itself.....

 

Onwards...

 

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Well another update...

Rear Springs, I was hoping that I would be able to use the springs I had already made to build the second version... Unfortunately no That wasn't going to work so I've set about building a whole new set of Rear Springs.....

 

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And in measuring it against the detailed photos I now have I found that I also needed to rework the Bracket as well to more accurately reflect it's true position on the car... 3/4ths inch closer to the rear and up at the turn of the curve on the frame rail...  

Then I added in the old springs and the ends sat way to low, so I was forced to completely rebuild the springs reflecting the correct measured position on the car... The curve is now accurate, 40" long by 2" wide with a 3" drop at each end... 

I've included two pics showing the current iteration colored in the cars natural yellow color....

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And one of the spring itself showing the upper mainspring and first leaf...

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and it's one solid piece as well....

Next posting when the spring itself is finished...

 

Onwards.....

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Well the Upper Rear Springs are done.... 

 

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And the bottom side...

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And an overall view....

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Now I have to repeat this but upside down to complete the lower half....

 

Onwards....

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Excellent work brother.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

Thanks OC... The springs took a bit of work...

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Another short update....

 

Lower Rear Springs....

 

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It was interesting and a lot easier than doing the uppers....

 

An overall look, Full Frame...

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Now I have to go back to the Front Springs and adjust a few details, I found a better way of doing them on the rear springs....

 

Anyway, next up will be an axle, not sure whether front or rear yet....

 

Onwards...

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Short update...

 

Front Axle... (not complete just a progress update)

 

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And an overall shot....

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Working out the spindle pivot tubes now....

 

Onwards...

 

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted (edited)

Well another short update.... Front Axle....

 

Been adding the spindles carriers...

Left side...

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Right side

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As you can see I've started adding the details, the Grease Cups and the nuts for the steering knuckles which on the right side has the Cap Nut with the post for the Speedometer gear... (not present on race day)

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Rear side...

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Here you can see the round bosses for the steering knuckles which were identical left to right... Once those are designed I will then have to add a very special part, the steering arm... On the first front Axle, I designed what would be on the standard Marmon Speedster, I had no other reference... But in reality, it was a part unique to the Marmon Wasp.....

 

For Example....

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Front, low and away and the back side.... it is bolted to the Speedometer cap nut on the front, (which locks it in place) loops around the spindle carrier the over the steering knuckle back near the steering cross link... And it's one part...

 

Time to experiment.... May take a while....

 

But I'm still making progress....

 

The ubiquitous overall view...

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Onwards....

 

 

Edited by Egilman

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

EG, it looks like the car frame. Tweaking the "small" changes is part of the engineering process. I like it.

 

Hope your health holds. Your entries in any log are always worth reading, even if only for the giggles.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

Member Nautical Research Guild

Posted
4 hours ago, Canute said:

EG, it looks like the car frame. Tweaking the "small" changes is part of the engineering process. I like it.

 

Hope your health holds. Your entries in any log are always worth reading, even if only for the giggles.

Thanks Ken and welcome to the thread, I try to keep it interesting.... Engineering, it's as simple and complicated as one could want... It's why I enjoy it so much... {chuckle}

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted
4 hours ago, vaddoc said:

Now, this is a beefy speedometer mechanism!

Why thanks Vad....

 

Yep strong.. that's the Marmon way.... the post was heavy cause it held the bracket which held the spur gear up for the ring gear mounted to the wheel to engage, on the other side it held the end of the speedometer cable....

Here is an image of it from the Marmon advertising manuals of the day....

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When originally designed, built and raced, (the1909-10 season) it had a speedo... When they brought it out of retirement for the first 500, (it's only race in 1911) it was left off....

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

And another update....

 

Phew that was intense....

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You will probably recognize the speedo mounting post, this is the Steering Arm that slips over the right steering knuckle and bolts to the hex portion of the Speedo post....

 

Below is the Right Steering Knuckle with this part in place....

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A very ingenious bit of design there....

 

Was a bear to draw though.... {chuckle}  It's probably not exact, but close.... Very close....

 

And this belongs to the Steering group along with the Left Steering Knuckle and Center link....

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And of course it mounts to the front Axel's Spindle carriers....

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Glad that one is done.... 

And finally the overall look...

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Well more detail take more time... (and I get more practice)

 

This one was a brain burner.... I'm sure someone more experienced in Solidworks would have done it easier, cleaner and faster... But for now, I'm calling it done...

 

Onwards...

Probably ready for Front Wheels and Tires....

 

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Really nice work brother.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

As OC says, really nice work.

 

Looking forward to the completed design.... I wish I had studied CAD, but jumped ship just as it was arriving.  Not saying I'd match your standard Egilman, but it is a nice string to one's bow to be able to design items on a computer.

 

Richard

 

Posted

Thank you Richard...

I was trained in paper and pencil a few decades ago when computers were something engineers only dreamed about, CNC had just arrived in the form of punched tape and I was introduced to doing indexed drawing... (dimensioning a drawing from a single base point) to make it easier to program the tape puncher/reader....

 

The software is actually easy to learn, it just takes practice to get used to it... When doing paper you really have to have the gift of visualization to truly understand what your designing, be able to visualize your part in 3-D... With software that takes the  need for visualization skills to the screen, which eliminates the only real natural drawing talent one needs... All 3D is directly visualized on the screen immediately... The other part is figuring out what type of 3-D drawing you need to learn... the artsy side or the numbers side...  I do the numbers, (engineering) side... There are all kinds of 3D artsy websites out there where the artists display their creations, not too many on the numbers side... But then the artsy side is faster, you don't need the accuracy the numbers side does...

 

Like any software in this field, the initial learning curve is tall, but it doesn't take that long to learn the basics.. I'm absolutely convinced that if someone has an interest and a need for computer 3-D drawing, it's relatively easy to learn and anyone with the aforementioned interest can learn it fairly quickly... (just make sure you got the right software to fit your interest, engineering or artsy they are not the same, modelers generally fare better with the engineering side, but the artsy side can do it as well, just takes more work)

 

Again thank you and welcome to the Log...

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Very short update,

 

I went ahead and added the front wheels and tires, there really isn't any improvement I can make on what was designed before so I when ahead and used those....

 

Here is the result...

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There is one thing I did do, I added the camber to the wheels that the original car had... This was a simple matter of tilting the wheels outwards at the top.... The state of automobile steering engineering was almost complete at the time the Wasp was built Proportional Steering, Toe, and Camber had been figured out, the only thing left was Castor.... It would be the early 30's before castoring was understood and universally applied... Until then, steering took actual effort on the part of the driver and needed constant monitoring, one moments distraction and you would find yourself heading in a different direction than you intended...

 

Camber....

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Combined with Toe-In and Proportional Steering, Camber allowed the centrifugal sideways force of turning to be applied to downward force as the car turned when the wheels turned, the sideway lean of the inside wheel would become greater in the direction of the turn and less on the wheel outside of the turn... This had the effect of the inside tire pulling the car into the turn against centrifugal force while the outer tire holds the line of the turn.... (this is why in a high speed car making a turn has the outside tire blow out, the car makes an immediate turn in the direction of the blowout, the outer tire is no longer there to hold the line of the turn)

 

Simple applied geometry is all steering is... And Camber was the final part to steering being an advantage in holding the road...

 

I guess I'll head to the rear of the car, I need her to be on all four wheels now.....

 

Onwards...

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Short update Brothers, Very Short...

 

Since I used the old wheels and just modified their position, I went ahead and added a detail that I forgot when I did them before...

 

The Speedo Gear mounted to the right Wheel...

 

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Seems like a minor thing, but it's a detail that is readily viewable and no other model out there has this detail to my knowledge....

 

Now on the her rear end.... {chuckle} 

 

Onwards!!!

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Well we are starting on the Rear Axle....

 

First parts are the upper spring plates and and lower clamp.... They clamp together over the Axle housing end tubes...

Front side then backside.... 

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The reason they used a bearing surface clamp is to allow the Rear End to rotate without deflecting (twisting) the spring... Since it was a solid driveline from axle through the transmission and driveshaft tube to the thrust bearing, they needed the axle/spring connection to rotate which allowed the spring to move up and down while the driveline's angle to the thrust bearing could change as the suspension worked... the Axle would pivot in the clamp...

 

Mounted to the Spring, front and back....

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On the backside view you can see the grease cup used to lubricate the axle/clamp bearing surface.... The lower clamp also had the lower shock bracket and jacking plate integral with it's casting.... Really ingenious engineering here....

 

And an overall view showing all the moving parts where they reside on the chassis...

 

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Next up, the Axle tube and Differential housing....

 

Onwards....

 

 

 

 

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Another update Brothers...

 

She now has a rear end.....

 

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And where she resides...

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And a reverse low angle shot....

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Starting to look like something....

 

The overall shot...

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I guess the next item up is the Transmission.... (driveline, truss rods, thrust bearing, brakes, etc., etc....) {chuckle}

 

Onwards...

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted
20 minutes ago, gjdale said:

You have a very nice rear end there Egilman! (Can’t believe I just said that….) 

Thank you Grant.... (ROTFLMAO!!!)

 

Accepted in the spirit it was given Brother... {chuckle}

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted

Some Great work  going on here  brother.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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8 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Some Great work  going on here  brother.

 

OC.

Thank you Brother....

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Posted (edited)

It's fascinating to watch all this take form. There is a heck of a lot of detail design in the process and I'm enjoying the journey as it all comes together.

 

Do you have plans to make a model from this work ? ... eg 3D print.

 

Richard

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Posted

Thank you Brother, I'm very happy your enjoying this excursion down the modeling path.... I hope everyone is enjoying it...

 

Still working my way back to where I was before, but I'm a lot more confident in it's design accuracy now...

 

Yes, I'm intending to print it, but at what scale I haven't a clue yet... Still too early in the process to figure that out... Right now she's being drawn 1/1... 

 

Thank you for asking...

 

EG

Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale

In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale

Completed: M8A1 HST  1930 Packard Boattail Speedster  M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer  F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C

Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433  F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale

Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter

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Quote:

"Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"

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