KeithAug Posted July 3 Share #31 Posted July 3 She is quite lovely isn't she. I think I like the exterior version with all the arrows, much more interesting with all those extra bits. FriedClams, John Ruy, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted August 28 Author Share #32 Posted August 28 (edited) A bit of progress… I worked on the Main Deck (bow section) tonight. Tracing the deck line for a template. Cut out the template and draw the outline of the bow section on 1/16” plywood. Cut out the plywood… Glue and clamp… Bow section complete. I will be planking the Main Deck once the structure is completed. The upper decks were covered with canvas, which I will simulate with paper and gray stain. No need to plank those decks. Cheers 🍻 Edited August 28 by John Ruy Canute, Keith Black, GrandpaPhil and 8 others 11 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted August 28 Share #33 Posted August 28 I had not seen this latest SS Klondike II scratch build of yours before, John! How'd I miss this?!? Will follow this one, as well, obviously! John Ruy, Canute, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted August 28 Share #34 Posted August 28 I see the bow is “working out” quite nicely. Always good to find a use for a bit of weight lifting ironmongery. GGibson, Canute, Knocklouder and 5 others 1 7 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted August 29 Share #35 Posted August 29 Good progress, John - coming along nicely! Gary Keith Black, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted August 31 Author Share #36 Posted August 31 (edited) Main Sub-deck completed… Cutting out the sub-decking from 1/16” plywood. Ready to plank the main deck… Shout out to @Kusawa2000 in White Horse, YT for his spy photos. He helped me confirm the Fore Deck planking and the Steam Winch to be placed on the Fore Deck. Thanks Mike… The real Klondike II is currently under some serious restoration efforts by Parks Canada. 🇨🇦 I will be attempting to scratch build this Winch at 1/96 scale. Any tips or suggestions you all may have would be greatly appreciated. I have enough photos, it’s a mechanical drawing of this equipment that would be helpful. On to planking… 🍻 Edited August 31 by John Ruy LJP, Paul Le Wol, Keith Black and 10 others 13 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted August 31 Share #37 Posted August 31 John, regarding the winch. I suggest that once you determine the frame dimensions that you draw those dimensions on card and cut out the winch footprint to give yourself an idea of the boundaries you'll be working in. Rough guess on my part, at 1:96 scale, I think the frame footprint to be approximately 1.25 L x 1.0 W inches not including the four friction drums. Then start thinking on how to create the winch elements out of simple materials, card or styrene for gears and the two gear guards, eye pins for shaft bearings and levers, dowel for shafts and friction drums, 16 or 14 gauge wire for shafts, smaller wire for levers and rods, small dimensional wood for the frame. That's a lot of elements to cram onto a very small space. The goal is to suggest the whole without replicating each individual piece, IMHO. The below is the hole punch set I have that I used for punching the gears out of card for my Donkey engine. They're very inexpensive and when they get dull, replace em! https://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-hollow-punch-set-3838.html?event_id=183117&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12169518939&campaignid=12169518939&utm_content=114845717657&adsetid=114845717657&product=3838&store=437&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4feIhHaYGJ7rQIokKGomcEYK&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi52GtYCgiAMV0Un_AR1OBApJEAQYAiABEgIbxvD_BwE Keith KeithAug, Paul Le Wol, Knocklouder and 4 others 7 Quote Current Builds: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted August 31 Share #38 Posted August 31 3 hours ago, John Ruy said: I will be attempting to scratch build this Winch at 1/96 scale. It's quite a complicated thing isn't it. I assume it had many uses including powering the forward derricks as well as anchors? Canute, Paul Le Wol, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted August 31 Author Share #39 Posted August 31 36 minutes ago, Keith Black said: John, regarding the winch. I suggest that once you determine the frame dimensions that you draw those dimensions on card and cut out the winch footprint to give yourself an idea of the boundaries you'll be working in. Rough guess on my part, at 1:96 scale, I think the frame footprint to be approximately 1.25 L x 1.0 W inches not including the four friction drums. Then start thinking on how to create the winch elements out of simple materials, card or styrene for gears and the two gear guards, eye pins for shaft bearings and levers, dowel for shafts and friction drums, 16 or 14 gauge wire for shafts, smaller wire for levers and rods, small dimensional wood for the frame. That's a lot of elements to cram onto a very small space. The goal is to suggest the whole without replicating each individual piece, IMHO. The below is the hole punch set I have that I used for punching the gears out of card for my Donkey engine. They're very inexpensive and when they get dull, replace em! https://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-hollow-punch-set-3838.html?event_id=183117&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12169518939&campaignid=12169518939&utm_content=114845717657&adsetid=114845717657&product=3838&store=437&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4feIhHaYGJ7rQIokKGomcEYK&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi52GtYCgiAMV0Un_AR1OBApJEAQYAiABEgIbxvD_BwE Keith Thanks Keith… I have been trying to wrap my head around this task. Your suggestions are very helpful. I have found a Bluejacket piece that could work as a base and have been pondering 🤔 modifications. 5/8″ x 3/4″ (1/8″ Scale). Priced per 6 pieces. $7.66 I do think your suggested size feels more appropriate and I can build it to look more correct than Bluejackets “Liberty” winch modified. Keith Black, Canute, FriedClams and 3 others 5 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted August 31 Author Share #40 Posted August 31 35 minutes ago, KeithAug said: It's quite a complicated thing isn't it. I assume it had many uses including powering the forward derricks as well as anchors? Yes, quite the work horse, back in the day. Canute, mtaylor, Keith Black and 4 others 7 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted August 31 Share #41 Posted August 31 (edited) 3 hours ago, John Ruy said: I have found a Bluejacket piece that could work as a base and have been pondering 🤔 modifications. 5/8″ x 3/4″ (1/8″ Scale). Priced per 6 pieces. $7.66 John, were I you I'd have bought that the moment I saw it. For $7.66 (you spill more than that on a good night ) it's a steal. Yes, there's satisfaction in building something like the winch from scratch but..... if that Bluejacket piece comes close to working out it'll save you at least a weeks worth of work. And if nothing else you could rob it for pieces parts if you decide to build the winch from scratch. In that case buy two. I think that's an awesome find, I'd jump all over it. It doesn't appear the winch on the model in post #8 is close to being the correct winch? Who looks at that model and say's "well, nice model but that winch." Edited September 1 by Keith Black KeithAug, FriedClams, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Builds: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted August 31 Author Share #42 Posted August 31 31 minutes ago, Keith Black said: And if nothing else you could rob it for pieces parts if you decide to build the winch from scratch. In that case buy two Amazing, I was having this exact same thought. I’m sitting here right now putting together an order for cleats and pieces I need for my 1/16 scale Red Jacket as well. Thanks for chiming in… 🍻 I’ll try not to spill any thing… LOL 😆 FriedClams, mtaylor, KeithAug and 2 others 5 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted September 2 Author Share #43 Posted September 2 Building out the Stern… Cheers 🍻 Keith Black, KeithAug, Baker and 12 others 14 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted September 4 Author Share #44 Posted September 4 Planking the Main Deck… Finish framing out the stern… Planking the Stern… Planking the Main Deck… Bow planking… Main Deck and Bow completed with platform for Steam Winch. 😎 Next up, some filling/sanding of the hull and decking. Then painting the hull white and the decking gray. Cheers 🍻 KeithAug, GGibson, yvesvidal and 14 others 17 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted September 4 Share #45 Posted September 4 Nice work 👍 John Ruy, Keith Black, Canute and 3 others 5 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr PR Posted September 5 Share #46 Posted September 5 John, This is a long shot, but you might find a patent for the winch in the US Patent Office archives. When I was working on the OK City model I found the patents for a couple of winches there, along with patents for the entire Talos missile launching system! Hundreds of drawings and detailed descriptions. Search for Biefort and winch - I think that is the name in the photo you show. John Ruy, FriedClams, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Phil Current build: USS Cape MSI-2 Current build: Albatros topsail schooner Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted September 5 Author Share #47 Posted September 5 6 hours ago, Dr PR said: John, This is a long shot, but you might find a patent for the winch in the US Patent Office archives. When I was working on the OK City model I found the patents for a couple of winches there, along with patents for the entire Talos missile launching system! Hundreds of drawings and detailed descriptions. Search for Biefort and winch - I think that is the name in the photo you show. Thanks Phil… I’ll give it a shot. BYW… It’s BIEGERT MACH WORKS. I will see what I can find. mtaylor, FriedClams, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted September 17 Share #48 Posted September 17 (edited) John, Stephen Allen, @Stephen Allen posted this link to a steam winch that is similar to yours. https://www.hatchwellantiques.co.uk/stock/model-steam-winch-detail Edited September 17 by Keith Black John Ruy, FriedClams and Canute 1 2 Quote Current Builds: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted September 18 Author Share #49 Posted September 18 36 minutes ago, Keith Black said: John, Stephen Allen, @Stephen Allen posted this link to a steam winch that is similar to yours. https://www.hatchwellantiques.co.uk/stock/model-steam-winch-detail That’s NICE! WOW! Thanks for setting the bar. Good images to work with. 👍 GGibson, Keith Black, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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