captainbob Posted December 2, 2013 #211 Posted December 2, 2013 Tom, fine job on that stack. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
TBlack Posted December 2, 2013 Author #212 Posted December 2, 2013 Michael, I didn't have any yew (BTW, nice looking piece of wood), so I substituted cherry. I'll get back to you on the eagle charms, another good idea, but lots to look at and I'm not buying gold @ $250/charm. Cap'n Bob, thanks for looking in. Tom Quote
mtaylor Posted December 3, 2013 #213 Posted December 3, 2013 Tom, What size eagle? I've got one left over from my USS Constellation project if it will work. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
TBlack Posted December 3, 2013 Author #214 Posted December 3, 2013 Mark, These are terrible pictures because my camera is quite rudimentory, but perhaps you can get the idea. The eagle is 3 dimensional and probably about 12 mm beak to tail feathers in profile and 10 mm at its widest. Tom Quote
realworkingsailor Posted December 3, 2013 #215 Posted December 3, 2013 What about model railroad figures? There might be something in O scale (1:48) from Preiser or Faller Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
TBlack Posted December 3, 2013 Author #216 Posted December 3, 2013 Thanks, Andy, I looked at their sites and didn't see any eagles available. I think Michael's idea of the jewelry lead is a strong possibility. There's a lot to look at in that category, some very expensive and some (from China) not bad, but wholesale. While the price is right, I really don't want to end up with 90 eagles when I only want one! Tom PS I'm thinking about changing my avatar. That baby is now 3 years old. And I think Robbyn has changed hers twice in the last 3 months. Stand by! Quote
pete48 Posted December 3, 2013 #217 Posted December 3, 2013 Looks Good Tom , Great job on the smoke stack Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Adrieke Posted December 3, 2013 #218 Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Tom i found some eagles HO scale at this site http://www.musketminiatures.com/ it says they make the detaqils themselves , so might be an idea to contact them and see what they got in your scale also found this topic on a railroad forum on how to make your own eagle in HO and O scale with a parts template http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21628 Edited December 3, 2013 by Adrieke avsjerome2003 1 Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80
TBlack Posted December 3, 2013 Author #219 Posted December 3, 2013 Adrieke, This is a fabulous find, and thank you very much for the lead. Initially, I was intrigued by the tutorial on building my own eagle, but then realized they were trying to model the real bird. Of course, I'm modelling a casting of an eagle. I think the way to go is with the musket miniatures offering; the price is certainly right. Tom avsjerome2003, Adrieke, michael mott and 1 other 4 Quote
TBlack Posted December 4, 2013 Author #220 Posted December 4, 2013 OK, I'll take all these likes as an endorsement of my decision to follow Adrieke's suggestion. Great, but we're really not there yet. I still have some accoutrements to deal with around the funnel. Steam escape valve: On the left, what do you suppose that really looks like. The whistle on the right is no problem. Tom Quote
realworkingsailor Posted December 4, 2013 #221 Posted December 4, 2013 Do a google image search for "steam blowdown muffler" Might give you some inspiration. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
TBlack Posted December 4, 2013 Author #222 Posted December 4, 2013 Andy, Steam blowdown muffler? Who woulda thunk it! Anyway, it's good to have you around. Google produced this How about it?: Tom Quote
Jim Lad Posted December 4, 2013 #223 Posted December 4, 2013 Tom, Your funnel has turned out really well. Don't overthink your escape valve - that ferry was built in the age of "we'll make as much noise as we damn well please". Many early steamers simply had an open pipe venting to the atmosphere, or a crude spring valve at the top of the pipe. As for your eagle, I did a quick image search on 'Preiser HO Gauge Bird Figures' and turned up several possibilities. John Quote
TBlack Posted December 4, 2013 Author #224 Posted December 4, 2013 John, Preiser has a wonderful looking eagle, but it's part of a set. The set costs $22.00. Maybe Andy and I could do a deal wherein I buy the set, take out the eagle, and sell him the rest of the set for his railroad club for $20? Sounds fair? Tom Quote
TBlack Posted December 7, 2013 Author #226 Posted December 7, 2013 So I added the whistle and "steam blowdown muffler" to my funnel assembly. Except for some cleaning up and painting here it is: pete48, realworkingsailor, Adrieke and 4 others 7 Quote
michael mott Posted December 7, 2013 #227 Posted December 7, 2013 Terrific work Tom. Looks like you are getting pretty cozy with the brass work as well. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
realworkingsailor Posted December 7, 2013 #228 Posted December 7, 2013 Looks great, Tom! Sorry I missed your earlier posting, but everything turn out really nice. Can't wait to see it all painted up and installed. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Jim Lad Posted December 7, 2013 #229 Posted December 7, 2013 That certainly looks the goods, Tom! John Quote
TBlack Posted December 7, 2013 Author #230 Posted December 7, 2013 Michael, If my brass work passes muster it's because you taught me how. Andy, For the blowdown muffler, I tried your hand drill method which worked much better, much cleaner. John, Cap't Slog, Andrieke, thanks for looking in and your support. I have to put some more braces on Amanda, so my attentions will be redirected for awhile. Tom realworkingsailor 1 Quote
captainbob Posted December 7, 2013 #231 Posted December 7, 2013 Tom, Your patients and rework really paid off. It look great. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
TBlack Posted December 19, 2013 Author #232 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) A little more progress. The funnel assembly has been painted, but Ive spent most of my time on trying to get the moulding around the pilot house roof correct. A picture: There are four stays to support the funnel that need adding. These have turnbuckles at their base. At first, I thought I might be able to fashion something in brass, but then realized that their diameter is 1-1.5" which, in scale, is less than a mm. So I'm not sure I can add a lot of detail there. The other thing I notice in this photo is how gross the moulding is around the boat deck edge compared to what I did on the pilot house: It took me 5 tries to do this, 1 in cherry, 3 in basswood, and finally, deciding not to be so cheap, the final one in boxwood. Works much better Wish I'd done that with the rest of them. Anyway, there it is. Here's the overall: One final point: Those are Andy's dentils on the pilot house. His dentist and I are good pals now! Tom Edited March 23, 2014 by TBlack captainbob, pete48, Elmer Cornish and 7 others 10 Quote
steamschooner Posted December 19, 2013 #233 Posted December 19, 2013 She's lookin very good, Tom Quote Zipper hydroplane(Miss Mabel ) finished John Cudahy Scratch build 1/4" scale Steam Tug 1914 Steam Tug Scratch build from HAMMS plans 1820 Pinky "Eagle" Scratch build from; American Ships Their Plans and History
Jim Lad Posted December 19, 2013 #234 Posted December 19, 2013 Beautiful work (as usual), Tom. On my 'Nareau' I needed several bottle screws for the funnel stays. I made them from lengths of 1/32" brass tube with a length of fine brass wire through the tube and turned into an eye at each end. John Elmer Cornish and popeye the sailor 2 Quote
realworkingsailor Posted December 19, 2013 #235 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Another suggestion from the model railroad world: http://grandtline.com/products/mrr/mrr%20car%20and%20loco%20detail%20parts/ho%20details/ho_misc_car_details.html Scroll down to the turnbuckles. I've used them before, the HO scale ones are about 6mm long and about 1.5mm in diameter. Andy Edited December 19, 2013 by realworkingsailor Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
TBlack Posted December 19, 2013 Author #236 Posted December 19, 2013 John, And isn't Nareau done at 1:96? Those bottle screws look very good. In fact, everything in the picture looks very good. Whatever happen to your build log? Andy, those turnbuckles look good, and thanks for the link, but I think I'd like to see what I can fabricate. Tom Quote
Jim Lad Posted December 19, 2013 #237 Posted December 19, 2013 Tom, Yes, the 'Nareau' is 1:96. Now that the model is completed the log is probably somewhere down the bottom of the heap in the scratch forum, but it'll still ber there! John Quote
TBlack Posted December 19, 2013 Author #238 Posted December 19, 2013 John, I think that was back in MSW 1.0, because the log is gone now, darn it! Quote
captainbob Posted December 19, 2013 #239 Posted December 19, 2013 Tom, congratulations on a job well done. The molding is great even with Andy’s dentures, I mean dentals. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
TBlack Posted December 19, 2013 Author #240 Posted December 19, 2013 Bob, Thanks for noticing my attempt at corny humor. I'm on to turnbuckles/bottlescrews now. I've located a source for 1/32" brass tubing. I think I can file out the middle to achieve this look: Let's see what happens. Tom Quote
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