HM Colonial Cutter Mermaid by olliechristo - FINISHED - Modellers ShipYard -

[aliluke]

Hi Ollie

Have to agree with John there. Too wide and too low. I wouldn't die in a ditch over it though...everything else looks really great - rope scale, blocks etc. There is a bit of discussion on tackles on KenW's Fair American build log at the moment - might be worth a look for you.

[michael mott]

Hi Ollie, I just finished going through you entire log, what a wonderful job you are doing. Your planking certainly deserves to be shown. really clean joinery on the deck furniture as well.

 

Michael

[olliechristo]

Thanks guys, this is where i have had so much deliberation and tried to ask about the angle of tackles a couple of times.. I didnt  really explain it properly i think...

 

I dont know if its okay to attatch them off the ribs? do i add some timber brace there to support them? 

 

I added them where they are because they seemed cluttered..  I will try to relocate them, luckily ive been out up a mountain all day and didnt finish them ..

 

I have decided to frappe the ropes as these canons would have not been used much at all..

 

regards Ollie

[olliechristo]

Thank you Michael, coming from you, that means a whole lot, your work is absolutely amazing.. Cheers Ollie

[olliechristo]

Alistair, after reading through that discussion, i think i could have left the tackles off.. i thought about doing just that the other day but wasnt sure if tackles where what held the canons in place, but it seems it is the breech rope and all tackles were stored unless in combat..

 

My only concern is the patching off eye bolt holes now, already have a couple..   

 

Regards Olllie

[aliluke]

Hi Ollie

If I was you I'd leave them just the way you have them. It's only trainspotters who will take you to task. The added detail of the tackles is a nice one and I don't regret them on my AVS. I'll certainly add them to Fly. The configuration can imply; storing the cannon while at sea, making the cannon ready for battle or defense, laying out the cannon for inspection; etc. I reckon go for your visual choice. The frapping looks really hard and adjusting the rig buy using coils will be my repeat choice.

[olliechristo]

I'm getting all indecisive again... I still kind of think the dinghy shows off well on deck so might still go with that, and re do tackles of guns better..

 

dinghy would hide my holes from eye bolts.

 

Do you guys think this deck  layout would be okay? either way I took that rigging off guns for now, regards ollie

Edited May 9, 2014 by olliechristo

[dgbot]

Ollie, your layout is just fine. Do no work up a sweat on York cannons.

David B

[ringbolt2013]

Ollie.. you are doing a splendid job on this build! Your work is spot on! I enjoy watching how you make things work out!

If you look at it  in the modern way it would make a marvelous yacht!!!!!

 

Tom

[aliluke]

I still favour the stern for the boat Ollie. But I'm into symmetry I guess.

[michael mott]

Ollie My thought are regarding the access to the belaying pins on the starboard side where the boat is stored, it feel just a little cramped.

 

Michael

[olliechristo]

Thanks again gang... I feel the same actually Michael, thanks for that input, i have decided to keep her mounted on the stern and get them canons rigged back up this afternoon..   Time to push forward..  Onto shrouds..    Regards Ollie

[Jim Lad]

Either way for the boat for me, Ollie.  If truth be known, in practice the boat was probably upended over the skylight or some other totally inappropriate place.

 

John

[olliechristo]

Ok canons are on the way.. Thinking it's much better. Big learning curve these finer points. It all just fits in there.. Couldn't have had tackle points any closer..

 

I read that it's much easier to add rope coils separate and just lay it over the existing rope, if that makes sense.. Regards ollie

[Jim Lad]

Yep, coils are much easier added separately, Ollie.

 

John

[olliechristo]

Hopefully will get a bit done later today.. Patching isn't finished yet in these photos, should tidy up reasonably.

 

I advise any one new to the whole canon rigging, should make a mock up port and get all the mountings placed in before the real deal... Regards ollie

[aliluke]

Hi Ollie

The rig looks great.

 

John is right. Have a look at my post on KenW's Fair American of my AVS rig. The tackle is tensioned and then CA glued to the deck and cut (right hand side in the picture) the coil is laid over the top of the cut end (left hand side in the picture). Note that I think the coils I made are too big in diameter and there is too much rope on them.

[KenW]

Ollie:  I'm impressed with your workmanship; hard to believe it's your first model.

I favor the guns rigged as if awaiting an admiral's inspection (i.e. with coils and side tackles).  There are a lot of possibilities that are period correct.

Again, great work and I will continue to follow your build.

Cheers.

[olliechristo]

Thanks Alistair and ken..Thanks for all the likes gang..     

 

I have finished my canons!! Woo.. I have realised all timber work is finished also.. its rigging all the way home now..

 

I am happy with the final outcome and it would be so much easier next time round.. 

 

 

[olliechristo]

I am wondering how to keep excess rope on a cleat..? A neat rolled bundle hanging on the cleat or something else.. Or just wrap enough around the cleat itself?? Many thanks, ollie

[Jim Lad]

Ollie,

 

A half hitch on the cleat to secure the fall and then the end coiled and the coil dropped over the cleat.

 

John

[aliluke]

Great outcome on the cannon rigs Ollie. Spot on to my eye. You're lucky to only have two to do but now you've cracked it onto a 74 gun ship for your next model?!

[olliechristo]

It didn't go that smoothly. I may re do it, but i think it should suffice.. Thanks ands and regards ollie

[dgbot]

Nice cannon and cleat looks just fine.

David B

[ringbolt2013]

Yup the guns are great Ollie, and even a small frigate can be a handful! Be happy, ya did good! Even merchant ships carried at least 1 gun for signaling, they are or were used in many places.

 

Tom

[olliechristo]

Hi all, had a day off yesterday and spent it in the shipyard..  Shroud time.. Oh and i was wrong when i said all timber work was done!! had the lanyard strips to make up..

 

I had trouble getting them to all line up right even after lots of jigging and testing.. I had to take one pair off and redo them.. I am very pleased to have got a step forward, although i did some reading and perhaps i should have left the dead eyes loosened so i could take up final tension once other rigging applied..

 

I think it should be okay and i am planning to put satin gloss to set them.. 

 

I ended up using a card to get heights close to perfect alignment with channels I will use template to make sure lanyard strips go on paralell to channel..

 

Regards Ollie

[olliechristo]

I will use the card to make sure lanyard strips are level and the same height on each side and set the way for ratlines..  Have a great day all... Ollie

[aliluke]

Looking really sharp Ollie. Is that kit supplied rope? It looks really good and if it came with the kit it would definitely qualify as better quality than most kits come with.

[olliechristo]

cheers guys...  Yes Alistair, these are kit supplied from MS, very nice to use, i had been using some old Caldercraft line for canons and it was quite rough.. regards Ollie

[ringbolt2013]

They are getting better with the ropes....I remember sending off a rather scathing note about some of what I got!!  WE won't say how long ago though!

Real nice Ollie!!

 

Tom