Rustyj Posted February 19, 2013 #1 Posted February 19, 2013 I will be posting the pictures of my completed scratch build of the Frigate Confederacy. This build was done using Chuck's plans and practicum that he developed for the Model Shipways kit. The woods used for this build are Boxwood, Holly, Swiss Pear, Ebony, Cherry, Bloodwood and some I'm sure I'm forgetting. I know all the comments and naratives are lost but if you have a question ask away and I'll try to remember! This will take a while becuase there were over 300 pictures. Here we go. Saburo, Chuck, freewheelinguy and 3 others 6 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 19, 2013 Author #2 Posted February 19, 2013 Here are some more bulkhead pictures fatih79, Saburo, Wishmaster and 2 others 5 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Chuck Posted February 19, 2013 #3 Posted February 19, 2013 Rusty...Its like seeing an old friend again....I am so glad to see it here. Chuck Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Rustyj Posted February 19, 2013 Author #4 Posted February 19, 2013 Lower deck planking and stern framing. Wishmaster, Duanelaker, Saburo and 1 other 4 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Trussben Posted February 19, 2013 #5 Posted February 19, 2013 Yea Rusty. Thanks so much for rebuilding your Confed log, it's such a great help for me to see your work, just hope Chuck and Chris repost theirs as well. 1 question on the stern framing, I see when you had the template on there for marking the sill positions you lined up the dotted line at the bottom of the template with the top of the upper counter, did this line up correctly with everything else afterwards? I think mine maybe slightly too high and I will have to re do them. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Elia Posted February 19, 2013 #6 Posted February 19, 2013 Rusty, Big thanks for reposting your Confederacy log. Your's is such a beautiful model, and I'm always drawn to it ....maybe one day I'll muster up and build one. I have liked Confederacy since having seen it on the Lumberyard's website years ago...just fell in love with it. Then Chuck went and designed a proper kit of it..sooo nice. Cheers, Elia Rustyj 1 Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout
Rustyj Posted February 20, 2013 Author #7 Posted February 20, 2013 Hi Elia. Go on now and get yourself a Confederacy! You know you want to. Seriously though it is a wonderfull ship and I know you would do it proud. Ben. Timing is everything. I was real close. Look at the 4th picture and you can see the center is off by just a little. Just a touch of sanding brought it in line. fatih79, Duanelaker and Saburo 3 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 20, 2013 Author #8 Posted February 20, 2013 Deck and stem placement. Keel Saburo, fatih79, Wishmaster and 2 others 5 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 21, 2013 Author #9 Posted February 21, 2013 Here is the addition of the keel and the start of the gunport framing. Duanelaker, Wishmaster, Saburo and 1 other 4 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 21, 2013 Author #10 Posted February 21, 2013 The rest of the gunport framing. Saburo, fatih79 and Duanelaker 3 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 24, 2013 Author #11 Posted February 24, 2013 Counter Planking and start of bulwarks planking. fatih79, Saburo, Tigerdvr and 2 others 5 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 24, 2013 Author #12 Posted February 24, 2013 More planking Wishmaster, fatih79, Saburo and 3 others 6 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Trussben Posted February 24, 2013 #13 Posted February 24, 2013 Simply Beautiful Rusty, I love how your Swiss Pear and Boxwwod go together, and the accuracy of your port lids is better than mine! ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Rustyj Posted February 25, 2013 Author #14 Posted February 25, 2013 Hull is planked with Holly and the simulated frames are swiss pear. The bulwark planking is boxwood. Wishmaster, Duanelaker, fatih79 and 1 other 4 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Trussben Posted February 25, 2013 #15 Posted February 25, 2013 Hey Rusty, I seem to remember from 1.0 that you did your internal planking before adding the stern pieces, did you have a reason for doing it this way?? I'm at that point right now so I would like to know. Ben Saburo 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Rustyj Posted February 26, 2013 Author #16 Posted February 26, 2013 Hi Ben, I have to give you a big “ummmm not sure why”. I would guess it was because I was thinking lets plank the interior before putting the window frames is so I don’t put a plank through them or just cause I wanted to do the planking then and not later. What ever reason it was it was not really important. Just me being me as they say. harvey1847, Duanelaker, fatih79 and 2 others 5 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 26, 2013 Author #17 Posted February 26, 2013 and some more fatih79, Duanelaker and Saburo 3 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
sonicmcdude Posted February 26, 2013 #18 Posted February 26, 2013 Thank You for bringing this beautiful build back for us Rusty! Lot to learn here Quote Greetings, Sinan Build log:TRITON POB 1:72
Rustyj Posted February 27, 2013 Author #19 Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) Your Welcome Sinan, Here is some more Edited February 27, 2013 by Rustyj fatih79, Wishmaster and Saburo 3 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Rustyj Posted February 27, 2013 Author #20 Posted February 27, 2013 Here are the stern decorations the were generously provided by Chuck. They are resin cast by Chuck and then painted by me. I could take 50 years and not be able to sculpt anything close to this. fatih79, Duanelaker, Saburo and 4 others 7 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
augie Posted February 28, 2013 #21 Posted February 28, 2013 Wow. I never saw this build back when. And scratch no less. Terrific planking job and I love the choice of woods. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
yvesvidal Posted February 28, 2013 #22 Posted February 28, 2013 Here are the stern decorations the were generously provided by Chuck. They are resin cast by Chuck and then painted by me. I could take 50 years and not be able to sculpt anything close to this. I wonder how the stern decorations provided in the kit compare with the castings from Chuck.... I know the bow figure is a fiasco in the Model Shipways kit. Yves Saburo 1 Quote
Rustyj Posted February 28, 2013 Author #23 Posted February 28, 2013 I wonder how the stern decorations provided in the kit compare with the castings from Chuck.... I know the bow figure is a fiasco in the Model Shipways kit. I have not seen the castings from the kit but I did see the mess they made of the figurehead. Ben are you out there? Can you help? Saburo 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Trussben Posted February 28, 2013 #24 Posted February 28, 2013 Hi, I will take some pics of the other castings and post them, If I remember right they were not as bad as the figurehead ( absolute crap ), but nowhere near as nice as the resin ones that Chuck did - wish he would make some more ( pretty please ) . ben Rustyj and Saburo 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
42rocker Posted February 28, 2013 #25 Posted February 28, 2013 You did a great job on this. Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
Jim Lad Posted February 28, 2013 #26 Posted February 28, 2013 Rusty, I'm still catching up with what's happning on MSW version 2. It's great to see your Confederacy back. John Quote
yvesvidal Posted March 1, 2013 #27 Posted March 1, 2013 Hi, I will take some pics of the other castings and post them, If I remember right they were not as bad as the figurehead ( absolute crap ), but nowhere near as nice as the resin ones that Chuck did - wish he would make some more ( pretty please ) . ben Ben, I wish that when Chuck is done with enhancing his home, he finds the time to produce a small series of add-on accessories for his kits distributed by Model Shipways. The list of parts that needs to be replaced grows with each kit produced: - Carronades for the Syren (although, MS did an effrot by providing free replacements for the ugly appendices that came with the kit). - Figure head for the Syren - Figure head for Confederacy - Stern decorations for Confederacy - Cannons for Confederacy (turned and in brass) - Plans for Confederacy rigging - Kit for Confederacy rigging ...etc A small business of retrofitting parts could actually be created without hurting Model Expo in any ways and would contribute to turn these kits into masterpieces. Yves CaptMorgan and Jaxboat 2 Quote
Trussben Posted March 1, 2013 #28 Posted March 1, 2013 Sorry rusty for posting stuff on your log. Yves - Chuck is an extremely busy guy, he runs and looks after this site god bless him, he always goes out of his way to help anyone, we can ask and expect NO more from him!!! If HE chooses to do above and beyond, which he usually does, then great. But he is not a manufacturer! He maybe covers his costs but I doubt that as well. Please respect the work that he does designing the best kits on the market IMHO. Chuck - thank you, your a steely eyed missile man. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
yvesvidal Posted March 1, 2013 #29 Posted March 1, 2013 Ben, I understand and agree with you. I was just wishing and thinking out loud..... Yves Quote
Rustyj Posted March 1, 2013 Author #30 Posted March 1, 2013 Hey it's no problem Ben. Love the talk. Yves having been one of the lucky ones I understand your wishes. Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
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