*Hans* Posted May 25, 2014 Author #121 Posted May 25, 2014 To add to the last post: they fired the guns with approx. 200 grams of gunpowder and a canonball made out of an old newspaper. In real the canons where fired with 2 kilograms of gun powder. These are 6 pound caliber canons - this means the canonball ia about the size of a cricketball (or a baseball-ball) and weights about 6 pounds or 3 kg. We had a discussion about the force of such a canonball - if it could smash right through the shipswall or not. We where not sure. Some said it could, others had their doubts. mtaylor, flying_dutchman2 and Sjors 3 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
Sjors Posted May 25, 2014 #122 Posted May 25, 2014 As long as they are no cotton balls, every thing is possible *Hans*, mobbsie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
*Hans* Posted May 27, 2014 Author #123 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Next step - the lionfigure on the bow I already had made the head of the lion - which some people thought was a dogs head. This lionhead was glued onto the bow: Then I sculpted the body of the lion on both sides of the bow: Third step - extra manes to cover the gap between head and body: And then some painting to make it more fearsome: Again - photos are not of the best quality. When the model is finished I will make some more profesional images and post these. Edited May 27, 2014 by *Hans* flying_dutchman2, mtaylor, WBlakeny and 7 others 10 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
Sjors Posted May 27, 2014 #124 Posted May 27, 2014 Nice dog uh...lion Hans You are on the right track ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
mobbsie Posted June 5, 2014 #125 Posted June 5, 2014 Did you model your figurehead on a Chinese Lion Hans, it's a little reminiscent of something I've seen on a Pagoda in a Chinese restaurant. Seriously mate, it's very good well done. Be Good mobbsie Sjors 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
flying_dutchman2 Posted June 5, 2014 #126 Posted June 5, 2014 Instead of the name "Batavia" the ship should be called "De Rode Leeuw" (The red Lion). Nicely sculpted. Marc mobbsie and Sjors 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
mobbsie Posted June 5, 2014 #127 Posted June 5, 2014 Red Lion, that's a pub aint it. mobbsie flying_dutchman2 and Sjors 2 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
flying_dutchman2 Posted June 6, 2014 #128 Posted June 6, 2014 Red Lion, that's a pub aint it. mobbsie I misspelled "Rode". It should be "Roode" Probably somewhere on earth and maybe a ship as well. I know it is a restaurant in Amsterdam *Hans* 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Louie da fly Posted June 6, 2014 #129 Posted June 6, 2014 The "Chinese" style of the lion could well be right. I don't know if it had started by the early decades of the 17th century, but certainly by the end a lot of ships' decoration was in this style, as the exotic nature of Chinese art became very popular and lasted for quite a while (have a look inside the Royal pavilion in Brighton of 1805 to see some classic examples of "chinoiserie"). flying_dutchman2 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
*Hans* Posted June 7, 2014 Author #130 Posted June 7, 2014 Hey guys - thank you all for your comments on the lion. I didn't really had any good example how to make the lion, then just some photo's of the original. I just started to sculp - and it worked out quite well! It only turned out my lion is a bit more well fed then the original one on the Batavia flying_dutchman2, Sjors, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
*Hans* Posted June 8, 2014 Author #131 Posted June 8, 2014 We take a beer on the fact that the highest point has been reached! In Dutch this is called pannenbier! I will not get any higher on the Batavia. Mirabell61, Elmer Cornish, Piet and 8 others 11 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
Sjors Posted June 8, 2014 #132 Posted June 8, 2014 Cheers Hans with this milestone But a very nice picture of a beautiful model ! *Hans* 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
JanV Posted June 8, 2014 #133 Posted June 8, 2014 Hans, as a good Dutch tradition, now beer for free for everyone passing by today *Hans* and Piet 2 Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard
flying_dutchman2 Posted June 8, 2014 #134 Posted June 8, 2014 It's a beauty and the colors are so vibrant. Marc *Hans* 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Piet Posted June 8, 2014 #135 Posted June 8, 2014 Hoi Hans, fantastic looking ship, wel done! Cheers *Hans* 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
*Hans* Posted June 11, 2014 Author #136 Posted June 11, 2014 All the standing rigging is done now (or should be done - it could be I have forgotten something) What remains are the ratlines....Nice job! Tecko, Piet, druxey and 11 others 14 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
Sjors Posted June 11, 2014 #137 Posted June 11, 2014 Shall I send you my ratlines rigging Gnomes ???? Again a nice picture of a nice model ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
seafarermiami Posted June 11, 2014 #138 Posted June 11, 2014 Next step - the lionfigure on the bow I already had made the head of the lion - which some people thought was a dogs head. Hm on my fluyte my daughter set it looks like her tedy bear. But for me is lion *Hans* 1 Quote
TheDutchShipBuilder Posted June 11, 2014 #139 Posted June 11, 2014 Hi Hans, Didn't know you started also here a built log. I said this before , but your work is great! A good example for me when I am building this ship (which I will in the future!) Quote Nick Model building Projects in progress: - Hermione la Fayette, Artesania Latina: - LINK TO Forum (MSW): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2649-hermione-la-fayette-by-nickvn-artesania-latina-second-wooden-ship-built/page-1 - LINK TO Photo album (dutch website): https://modelbrouwers.nl/albums/album/11697/
*Hans* Posted June 11, 2014 Author #140 Posted June 11, 2014 For the ratlines I made myself a little helper excisting of two small pieces of wood in the right width (or almost). These two planks are clamped on the right place on the standing rigginglines and then I start to knot the ratlines onto it - this with the clove hitch I learned from Sjors. (so no fun for his laughing gnomes - this works perfectly ) tarbrush, Bindy, Piet and 6 others 9 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
Piet Posted June 11, 2014 #141 Posted June 11, 2014 Looking really great Hans and a nice idea about getting your ratlines even and spaced correctly. I made a not of it and may try that when doing them on My VOC ship. Cheers, Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
Boccherini Posted June 13, 2014 #142 Posted June 13, 2014 Hans, just had a quick browse through your log. Very nice work. Congratulations. Regards, Grant. Quote
Mirabell61 Posted June 13, 2014 #143 Posted June 13, 2014 congrats Hans, a good looking and nicely built ship... Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
*Hans* Posted June 13, 2014 Author #144 Posted June 13, 2014 Hey guys, thanks! Working on the ratlines now - will post a photo this evening (Dutch time - might be this morning for Australia) Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
amateur Posted June 13, 2014 #145 Posted June 13, 2014 Hello Hans, She's a nice model of a nice ship! I found a small piece op paper with lines in the right distance a better tool for maintaining the right distance between my ratlines. Just attach the ratline in aboutt the right spot, and use the card-template to get it spot on. And make sure you don't tension the ratlines too mucht, otherwqise you have the outer shrouds drawn inside in a kind of 'zandloper'-model..... (all learned by hard experience....) Jan Quote
*Hans* Posted June 13, 2014 Author #146 Posted June 13, 2014 Although my ratlines are not too tight it is quite difficult to not get an hourglass model in it. But think it's ok. WBlakeny, mtaylor, Elmer Cornish and 3 others 6 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
amateur Posted June 14, 2014 #147 Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) I think you're OK. (at least from the angle you show us.) You're going at great speed. Ratlines took me years Jan Edited June 14, 2014 by amateur *Hans* 1 Quote
*Hans* Posted June 14, 2014 Author #148 Posted June 14, 2014 Jan, when I'm further I will post a photo from a straight angle. Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
*Hans* Posted June 14, 2014 Author #149 Posted June 14, 2014 Rather dull work, doing the ratlines. And yesterday we had the Dutch footballteam playing against Spain (is this still called soccer in the States?) which made me a bit nervous (for no reason - after all). I couldn't sit still for a moment. Took the opportunity to make some of the yards: Elmer Cornish, Tecko, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
*Hans* Posted June 15, 2014 Author #150 Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) In the meantime I received the sails back from the sailmakers workshop (my mom). I took some thin cotton sheet, impregnated this with diluted white glue - in which I had added some ocre paint to get a more "old" look. Then at a width of 1 cm (which is 70 cm in real) the vertical stitches where made. With a paper knife I have cutted the sail in the right shape and dimension and then started sewing a piece of rope around it. So far the result: Edited June 15, 2014 by *Hans* Sjors, mtaylor, tarbrush and 4 others 7 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
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