MEDDO Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share #271 Posted April 15, 2017 Rudder time... As usual in this kit it is built up in layers. With a bit of sanding and glue... (tiller is probably upside down in picture...) Now we come to a problem. The itty bitty little tiny space on the ship where this big fat rudder is supposed to fit into. Obviously gotta work a bit of shaping on the top half of the rudder and the "rudder hole" (I am sure there is a nautical term for this area). mtaylor, Tigersteve, hexnut and 2 others 5 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share #272 Posted April 15, 2017 After a bunch of shaping and cutting away, I am able to temporarily get the rudder in. Next up is making the gudgeon and pintles. Which include soldering and blackening.... Yikes, will be my first time doing both. GrantGoodale, mtaylor, hexnut and 6 others 9 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share #273 Posted April 16, 2017 Very first attempt at silver soldering. seemed to do ok. Its a little tilted but it seems strong. Tigersteve, DocBlake, Ryland Craze and 3 others 6 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted April 17, 2017 Share #274 Posted April 17, 2017 Looking splendid in those two update photo's on the previous page Michael, would make a fine display model even as she is. B.E. Tigersteve, MEDDO and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share #275 Posted April 17, 2017 Thanks B.E. And thanks everyone for the likes. Tigersteve and mtaylor 2 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted April 18, 2017 Share #276 Posted April 18, 2017 I feel your pain. I don't like anything about fitting a rudder in place! Tigersteve, mtaylor and MEDDO 3 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share #277 Posted April 19, 2017 So first attempt at silver soldering went ok. Was difficult trying to get the little tubes in the correct orientation to the strip. They kept coming out crooked. It was easy to just reheat it and move em a bit though. Here are the rough gudgeon prior to cleaning them up. Every day acquiring new skills Blue Ensign, rafine, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share #278 Posted April 20, 2017 Had to leave off the rudder as I don't want to attach it until the end as I am still moving the ship about too much. As Bob (Rafine) also had to do on his stem I need to cut out a slot and thin it so the figurehead can fit. Here is the resin piece provided. Needs a little cleanup. Almost forgot had to get it sitting down far enough to clear the bowsprit. Next step to start building up the headrails. Cheers Tigersteve, Ryland Craze, hexnut and 2 others 5 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share #279 Posted April 24, 2017 Don't know what is worse.... sanding all the char off of laser cut pieces or dealing with incompletely cut CNC pieces that don't go all the way through... with a bit o' blood ta boot DocBlake, mtaylor and Ryland Craze 3 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted April 25, 2017 Share #280 Posted April 25, 2017 I think cleaning the laser char is worse! mtaylor and MEDDO 2 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share #281 Posted April 25, 2017 Dave you are probably correct but I am just getting a bit frustrated with some of these pieces. You can see the grain in the wood and those small pieces are splintering a ton when I am getting them removed from the blank. Luckily as with most of this kit, the pieces are double layered so I can glue all the fragments back together....most of the time... mtaylor and Tigersteve 2 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtosail Posted April 25, 2017 Share #282 Posted April 25, 2017 Just found your build log Michael. Great work so far. I look forward to following along. mtaylor 1 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share #283 Posted April 25, 2017 Glad to have you here Tom. The more the merrier Tigersteve and mtaylor 2 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted April 25, 2017 Share #284 Posted April 25, 2017 Michael: I've used a Dremel cut off wheel to free parts from the billets with good results. With the very small parts you need to go super slowly and cautiously, and always cut with the grain...but you already know that! I can't tell you how many parts for my LSS Armed Virginia Sloop I had to remake because i damaged them removing them from the billets. MEDDO and mtaylor 2 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share #285 Posted April 25, 2017 I will have to see if I have one of those in the toolbox. Overall I like the LSS kits but these last few parts have been a bit frustrating. Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share #286 Posted May 4, 2017 Spent the last few modeling days on what I think is the hardest part of the entire build to date...The headrails. Got them in and once the glue dries will work on a bit of final finishing. Next step is the stern and quarter galley resin castings. At one time I thought that maybe I would replace these with my own carvings but after a bit of practice I am nowhere near patient enough for that. Maybe one day in a few years Here they are (the stern has been filed down to shape and fits pretty well on the back). One thing is the casting is flat but the stern has a curve to it. It is not to bad but I would have to CA it to get it to bend and I hate to use CA. Going to try a piece of scrap to see if I can heat it up a bit and bend to shape. I have no idea if that is going to work. Will probably start with just a hair dryer and go from there. rafine, Ryland Craze, Blue Ensign and 2 others 5 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share #287 Posted May 5, 2017 One of the quarter galleys rough cut out and fitted. After cutting the moldings it sits nice and flush. Will be set aside for final sanding/shaping and painting. Tim Curtis, usedtosail, Ryland Craze and 3 others 6 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share #288 Posted May 6, 2017 Was able to use a hair dryer to very gently bend the transom so it would fit flush on the back of the ship. And now it's just slow going cutting out all the windows. I am happy that the Stern posts are lining up with the windows very nicely. DocBlake, gjdale, usedtosail and 4 others 7 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted May 7, 2017 Share #289 Posted May 7, 2017 She's coming along beautifully Michael. Bob MEDDO 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share #290 Posted May 7, 2017 Thank you Bob. I'm actually reliving my build watching you go through yours. rafine 1 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwboland Posted May 7, 2017 Share #291 Posted May 7, 2017 Coming along nicely Bob. What are those moldings made out of? They almost look like bake lite? MEDDO 1 Quote Carl Completed builds: AL Bluenose II 1:75 Gallery Amati Hannah SIB 1:300 Gallery Current Build: Bluenose II - SIB - unknown scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted May 7, 2017 Share #292 Posted May 7, 2017 Good progress Michael, what are you using to cut out those windows? Looks very delicate MEDDO 1 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share #293 Posted May 7, 2017 5 hours ago, cwboland said: Coming along nicely Bob. What are those moldings made out of? They almost look like bake lite? Thank you Carl. They are some sort of casted resin that came in the kit. Michael Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share #294 Posted May 7, 2017 4 hours ago, donrobinson said: Good progress Michael, what are you using to cut out those windows? Looks very delicate Thank you. I am just using my small files. I am using the round one kind a like a drill to drill a hole in the middle and then slowly enlarging it with the half round, square, flat files. The material is soft enough that it's fairly easy to do. Not sure what it's doing to my files though. I have to make sure that I'm very careful. The material seem strong enough but as you can see on the second window from the right at the very bottom it will crack if I put too much pressure on it. Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share #295 Posted May 7, 2017 I'm in the middle of a run of 12 hour night shifts and don't have too much time but was able to finish opening up the windows today. Dry Fit.. Blue Ensign, hexnut, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwboland Posted May 7, 2017 Share #296 Posted May 7, 2017 Sorry about the name mixup Michael. I'm following Bob's (rafine) log too. Both were within a couple of threads toss morning before I had my coffee. Quote Carl Completed builds: AL Bluenose II 1:75 Gallery Amati Hannah SIB 1:300 Gallery Current Build: Bluenose II - SIB - unknown scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share #297 Posted May 7, 2017 Haha 😁 no problem. I love to be associated with people who have way more skill than I do. Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share #298 Posted May 10, 2017 Was able to start on the rest of the armament. Painting went well. Once again the kit want you to make something out of the styrene strips. Much like the pump handles of post #232 I did not want to use this and then "paint it some color". I simply used a decking strip instead. After I get the base plate on tonight will end up painting them black i think. (ouch one tab broke off while working on it) Tigersteve, hexnut, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share #299 Posted May 11, 2017 Spent the night putting wipe on poly on all the places I had to modify at the head and the stern. I forgot how bad that stuff smells even in a ventilated room. Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted May 11, 2017 Share #300 Posted May 11, 2017 Great progress. She's really coming along. MEDDO 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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