jaerschen Posted October 16, 2014 Author #31 Posted October 16, 2014 Thanks very much druxey for the warm words. It's always a great help to be on a right track. Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
jaerschen Posted October 19, 2014 Author #32 Posted October 19, 2014 Hello I have a question about the Beams of the Triton. How likely was that the Beams of the Triton are made in a single unit or was made up in two portions? Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
SaturnV Posted October 20, 2014 #33 Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) My Pandora book shows one piece deck beams from the bow back to about one fourth the length of the ship. The deck beams at the stern are also one piece about one fourth of the way forward. The center half is all two piece notched together. Edited October 20, 2014 by SaturnV jaerschen 1
jaerschen Posted October 20, 2014 Author #34 Posted October 20, 2014 Much thanks for the information Richard. Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
jaerschen Posted October 31, 2014 Author #35 Posted October 31, 2014 Hi Guys It's done, all the frames are fitted and even the starboard side is a bit sanded. The next step is sanding, sanding sanding,..........oh I hate it. Dubz, harvey1847, SaturnV and 10 others 13 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
AnobiumPunctatum Posted October 31, 2014 #36 Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Congrats for reaching this milestone, Jürgen. Your hull looks really impressive. I am nosey to see your hull when we meet next year . Edited October 31, 2014 by AnobiumPunctatum jaerschen 1 Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Kevin Posted November 2, 2014 #37 Posted November 2, 2014 Fantastic work and I am here feeling very intimidated about starting the section build jaerschen 1 Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
jaerschen Posted November 2, 2014 Author #38 Posted November 2, 2014 Hi Kevin Much thanks for the warm words. You don't feel so about your craftsmanship Kevin 1 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
harvey1847 Posted November 2, 2014 #39 Posted November 2, 2014 CONGRATULATIONS Jürgen!! She actually looks like the first proper built HMS Triton on this forum. The rest of us have to comform with the double frame method that is less pleasent to look at... (smile) Beatiful framing again! daniel. jaerschen 1 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
NMBROOK Posted November 2, 2014 #40 Posted November 2, 2014 Some wonderfully clean and crisp wood work Juergen!!! Kind Regards Nigel jaerschen 1 Currently working on Royal Caroline
jaerschen Posted November 3, 2014 Author #41 Posted November 3, 2014 Thanks so much for the nice comments Daniel and Nigel and also for all the likes. @Daniel In terms of this Triton build the most are means the double frame is much easier than the single frame. But I believe that isn't so. I think single frame have a great vantage, to get the right shape of the hull is much easier than in double frame. Although single frame is more time consuming. In relation of the optic I'm with you. druxey, harvey1847 and wangshuoliurui 3 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
jaerschen Posted November 12, 2014 Author #42 Posted November 12, 2014 Hello Guys Sanding needs much more time as I thought. I began to fit the stern-timbers to have some change. Now it goes on with sanding Mike Y, druxey, wangshuoliurui and 6 others 9 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
AnobiumPunctatum Posted November 14, 2014 #43 Posted November 14, 2014 I think you have a nw hobby, Jürgen. Sanding, sanding mtaylor, jaerschen and harvey1847 3 Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Mirabell61 Posted November 14, 2014 #44 Posted November 14, 2014 Juergen, a beautiful build and very nice hull lines of the Triton.... Nils jaerschen 1 Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
jaerschen Posted November 15, 2014 Author #45 Posted November 15, 2014 Hello Christian and Nils Much thanks for your nice comments. I think you have a nw hobby, Jürgen. Sanding, sanding I can think of no better job mtaylor 1 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
yamsterman Posted November 17, 2014 #46 Posted November 17, 2014 Hi juergen Beautiful work...outstanding craftsmanship....looking forward to more! Cheers....mick jaerschen 1
jaerschen Posted November 17, 2014 Author #47 Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Thanks so much for the nice comment Mick and also for all the likes. I would like to install the Main-Wale at next to stabilize the konstruction. But I'm not really sure to do this yet because the most modelbuilder are doing this later. Are there reasons not to do so? Edited November 17, 2014 by jaerschen Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
SaturnV Posted November 21, 2014 #48 Posted November 21, 2014 Hi Juergen, I placed my wales first so as to stabilize the framing for sanding. The frames tend to vibrate under the sander and make it hard to get anything done. Now that I have the wales in place the material is coming off more quickly. I'm not following any instructions for this but merely making it up as I go. Kind of fun that way. Hope that helps. Richard jaerschen 1
jaerschen Posted November 22, 2014 Author #49 Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Thanks so much for your statement Richard. I had much trouble with vibration during the sanding. That's the reason for this thought. If I saw your "mystique photo" (I like it very much) , it was clear to me to do it also. Edited November 22, 2014 by jaerschen Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
jaerschen Posted November 23, 2014 Author #50 Posted November 23, 2014 Hello Guys Most of the outside sanding is done and the Main-Wale is started. The Wale at the bow is strongly curved and it's very hard to bend it as you know. I decided to saw out this part and it worked very well. To fit the following parts were a lot easier Another difficult part is last ledge at the stern. The ledge must be formed exactly before bonding. This approach should be used at all the parts of the planks because it's much easier. The current progress The next update is coming when the Main-Wale is finished druxey, Jorge Diaz O, WackoWolf and 10 others 13 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
AnobiumPunctatum Posted November 24, 2014 #51 Posted November 24, 2014 Really nice progress, Jürgen. As you know, I am a great freind of oil colors for painting the wale black. jaerschen 1 Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Kevin Posted November 24, 2014 #52 Posted November 24, 2014 LOVELY -wonderful work jaerschen 1 Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
jaerschen Posted November 24, 2014 Author #53 Posted November 24, 2014 Hi Christian and Kevin Thanks so much for the nice comments and also for the likes. Your interest is always a great motivation. Yes Christian I know it my friend . But I suspect that needs to many time. Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
AnobiumPunctatum Posted November 24, 2014 #54 Posted November 24, 2014 Normally oil color will harden in a week or two Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
jaerschen Posted December 7, 2014 Author #55 Posted December 7, 2014 Hello, the next step is done and the Main Wale is fitted. I had I little mistake nearing completion. The following photo should be a little help to declare it. For fitting the last ledge of the Main Wale it was necessary to sanding the outside of the side counter timber at starboard side (blue arrow). But there wasn't enough material, the part was to small at this point (yellow x) . I had to many material removed at the inner side (red arrow). The exchange of the part seems like too much effort to me. So I decided to glue a piece of wood to the counter and sanded it down. I believe that must be alright on the finished model. And now some photos of the Main Wale. It's still to do a bit sanding on the port side. Kevin, harvey1847, jansmiss and 8 others 11 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
NMBROOK Posted December 7, 2014 #56 Posted December 7, 2014 Excellent fix Juergen I agree,for a part that will become invisible when complete,the amount of work required to replace the piece,just isn't worth it.The wales look great Kind Regards Nigel jaerschen 1 Currently working on Royal Caroline
mtaylor Posted December 8, 2014 #57 Posted December 8, 2014 Nicely fixed, Juergen. I'm with Nigel on it being hidden. jaerschen 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
druxey Posted December 8, 2014 #58 Posted December 8, 2014 Looks good, Juergen. Just remember not to trim the aft end of the main wale until you have planked the lower counter! (Usually the lower counter is planked first.) NMBROOK and jaerschen 2 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
jaerschen Posted December 9, 2014 Author #59 Posted December 9, 2014 Hello Thanks so much Nigel, Marc and druxey. Your comments are a great help for me because I had my doubts to leave it. Thanks very much for the advice druxey, I was temped to doing this. Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
druxey Posted December 9, 2014 #60 Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Yes, Juergen, it's irritating seeing rough-cut ends! But be patient, it will be worth it. That will be an outstanding model. While I think of it: did you taper the thickness of the wale at the bow to fit the rabbet? (I had this conversation with another model-maker today.) Edited December 9, 2014 by druxey mtaylor and jaerschen 2 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
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