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HMB Endeavour by DaveRow - FINISHED - Corel - Scale 1:60 - First Build Kit


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Hi Guys,

Re: Post  #241.

I edited the post, deleted all the 5 pictures(did not save or exit), reloaded in the order I wanted 004 to 008, but they still show 008 first down to 004.

So I edited #241 again. Deleted the 5 pictures, posted(exit, with no pictures). Went back in(edit) and loaded up the 5 pictures 004 through to 008, Now they are mixed up, 005, 006, 007, 008, 004.

 

I give up. Maybe it works better for the original post, not afterwards.

 

PS I installed Google Chrome - works fine now.

 

Dave R

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Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Hi,

 

I'm with Paul on this one.  I have always uploaded all my photos in one hit and then just insert them where ever I want and in what ever order I choose. Usually I have a speil of what the photo is showing, insert the photo and then the next speil and next photo etc.  I don't understand how you can upload photos out of order?  

 

Cheers

Slog

 

Edit: sorry forgot to mention your progress is looking really great, nice work.

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From the Shipyard.

Hope Dave's happy with this one - Deck Skylight.

 

Bit more paint touch up if I can get into the tight places.

 

White lids to reflect the light into the hull.

The bars over the top were a killer.

Used black card for the metal frame and hinges.

 

Hopefully it assimilates in with the other deck features.

 

 

Dave R

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Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Nice work on the deck furniture Dave, that will make the deck pop!

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

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Shipyard Update,

So been a bit slow of late.

Battled our way to make the Knighthead(the wooden thing over the bow) and Timberhaed ends.

These items seem to provide multiple functions to house the Bowsprit, locate the Cat-heads and Bumpkins.

I purposely have left excess material in the trough(for the bowsprit) and either side to trim later on.

Interesting making and adding these items now, when I'll make the Bowsprit later(work out the rake w.r.t the Knighthead)

 

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Marking out the shape. I used pear wood.

 

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Waiting for the glue to dry. I drilled a couple of holes for pins in each side to hold the shape.

 

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Glued in place, roughed in. 

 

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Nearly finished the 2 Cat-heads.

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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General progress view/update.

It has been 20 months since the keel was laid.

I have not kept a detail log of the build hours, however I reckon 850hrs would be a fair figure to put on the build so far.

 

Quiet a few other items I have made not "glued" on the deck yet.

- Windlass/Belfry

- Sheet Bits(4)

- Spar Gallows(2)

- Capstan

- Steering Wheel

- cannons(6) part built

 

I've taken Greg L's advice and slowly progressing along the deck, making all the items.

One big "fixing" session at the completion.

That will be a milestone - hoping that will be before April 2016, mark 2 years since I stared.

 

Dave R

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Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Wonderful job so far - very impressive work!

hamilton

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current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch)
 
under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

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Shipyard Update,

4 pumps constructed, bashed from "Amati 15mm wood pump".

I really wanted them to look as though made of timber, metal bands.

 

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Left: The Corel Kit supplied a brass twin pump piece. What can I say, typical of many items supplied in the kit, not appropriate.

Right: The Amati kit pump was not up to scratch, so bashed it into something like >>>

 

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I made two(2) types of pumps. 2 more were added whilst in the Deptford Yard ?

- 1 type has the taller barrel with strut over the cap(2 original "Pembrook" pumps)

- 1 type with a shorter barrel and strut 180 deg. facing away(added at refit, Deptford yard)

I replaced the top flange with a cap(a small hole in the middle for pump shaft).

I shaved the barrel and 3 black rings into hex(6 sides) so they look like that in the AOTS.

Also added bar at the end of the handles.

Some timber stain and a clear coat of lacquer to seal them up.

Each one even works up and down. 

 

A lot time, but I think worth it.

 

Just got to get them in the right place on the deck. I saw in another Endeavour log, that the 

 

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Nice work Dave, I did the same thing two different style pumps for the reason you stated. Actually the original pumps are shown on the draughts done before the refit, and their position is shown on the deck plans. In the photo you can see the pumps on a ship model from the same period as Endeavour, they look similar to the ones on the draughts.

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

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In the Shipyard,

Couple of small things out of the way.

 

The 2 x Cats Head cut in place over the knight head.

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The Capstan:

I raised the black base up a little so the cap will be above the hatch(next build item) to the right.

At the bottom of the capstan I notched in rebates for 2 flippers to lock the rotation.

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Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Out of the Shipyard talk.

I got sidetracked and went down to the stern to make:

1. platform over the rudder tiller.

2. the rudder tiller.

 

 

The Platform did not take too long to make, but I did want it to clear the tiller - just.

I blackened 5 brass stanchions which will all be glued in place, rope strung when all the deck "goodies" are done and a massive "fitting day". 

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The Rudder Tiller took longer to make/fit, well to mortise into the rudder. I reckon it took a good 2.5hrs to widdle, drill, shave, my way through to get a firm fit, and doesn't move when fully in. And by some luck sweeps up/tapered just like in AOTS. Very happy with the out come.

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I am really struggling with the practicality of the "arch" on the end of the tiller.

We can see that the "arch" was probably added to extend the tiller over the fireplace flue. For extra leverage ? or maybe to exclude access to the flue when hot ?

However, by attaching the tiller ropes to the "arch" end, I can see the ropes fowling the flue when the tiller is hard over either way. The ropes would need to be high enough to clear over the flue, and kept taught enough.

I am temped to not add the "arch" and have a double purchase at the end of the tiller.

Ray Parkins book, it is not consistently shown. 

What to do ??

 

 

So by my reckoning, I am am on target to have all the deck finished by the 2 year anniversary of the build - that being 28 April 2016.

 

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Hi Dave

 

Re the tiller

Here is a pic of how I set my tiller up, I didn't fit blocks to the tiller like shown in the AOTS, I set it up like the full size replica. I cannot get my rudder to go hard over but I don't think it would foul with the chimney.

The other pic is from the April 1768 draughts showing the "arch", its also shown on two other draughts so the arch definately exists.

 

Cheers

Steve

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

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Merry Xmas all,

To mark the occasion I commissioned the shipyard to stain the hull bottom, below the waterline.

The effect to show the hull in contact with the the water in a brown-ish color.

 

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Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Hi Dave

 

Re the tiller

Here is a pic of how I set my tiller up, I didn't fit blocks to the tiller like shown in the AOTS, I set it up like the full size replica. I cannot get my rudder to go hard over but I don't think it would foul with the chimney.

The other pic is from the April 1768 draughts showing the "arch", its also shown on two other draughts so the arch definately exists.

 

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve,

I have no doubt there was an "arch" on the end of the tiller, as the draughts indicate.

I had a look at several other builds, most vary to some extent. Some appear that the rope would fowl the vent.

I agree the tiller/blocks like the AOTS would not work.

A quandary.

 

 

Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Shipyard Update.

The 2 bumpkins made and in place.

I laminated 2 pieces of flat timbers then rounded each for final shape.

 

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The end housing on the deck is from:

- timber base

- cardboard inverted "U" over and

- brass boxes(for the ends to fit into) 

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I wound some rope around the end to stop the bumpkin sliding back.

Hope I got it all right.

May have the deck block a bit too far back though - fouls the/a straight bowsprit ?

If I curve/bend the bowsprit will just clear over it.

 

Dave R

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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Latest shipyard update:

Decided the mid hatch would be a simple hinged flat one over the opening.

I added a combining about the outer edges, give it some functionality, maybe it did have an outer edge so things did not roll off.

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One of the larger section raised for the crew to slip under decks.

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Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Dave,

 

I just happened to notice a hooked scarf joint in the deck planking next to the stern gallows. Is there any particular reason for this as I don't see any others?

I thought I would ask as I am starting to plank the deck.

Regards

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Nice work Dave; some great progress there.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Dave,

 

I just happened to notice a hooked scarf joint in the deck planking next to the stern gallows. Is there any particular reason for this as I don't see any others?

I thought I would ask as I am starting to plank the deck.

Regards

Hello ca.shipwright,

Look at my post #90 it shows a number of them on the deck.

The AOTS has them indicated on one of the deck plans in the book.

 

Also I visited the Edwin Fox in Picton(NZ) March 2015, and saw original internal hull planking had the same scarf design. I nearly fell over backwards when I saw it. I had a mate of mine with me, he is a boat builder and he says he knew of this type of joint, he had never had to make one in his carrier.

 

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Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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I love the bumpkins mate, just check the clearance on the bowsprit. And keep them away from cats.

Hi Greg,

The bowsprit just clears over the bracket. I curved the end(today) so it clears. I should of had the bracket a little further forward.

 

Where the bumpkins are, they stay, already grooved the vertical timber.

I laid them in like on the AOTS deck layout. But I see your point, the anchor ropes may foul them.?

 

Dave R

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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