Hubac's Historian Posted September 17, 2018 Share #391 Posted September 17, 2018 Impeccable work, Drazen! mtaylor and Piet 2 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted September 18, 2018 Share #392 Posted September 18, 2018 Ten! Those are the most pintles and gudgeons I've ever seen on one rudder! Well done - such neat work! mtaylor and Piet 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 18, 2018 Share #393 Posted September 18, 2018 Ten is more than the drawing shows, but the famius drawing by van der Velde shows three bisible above the waterline. That leads to ten in total.... Jan Piet and mtbediz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Y Posted September 18, 2018 Share #394 Posted September 18, 2018 Very accurate and methodical process, thanks for all that "in progress" pics. A bit of a pity that part of the result is painted on top. Love the ribbon and letter carvings! Piet 1 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share #395 Posted September 18, 2018 Thank you! The number of fittings above the waterline is actually 4. The plans from Lelystad show 6 (2 above the waterline). Still, in long discussions, I went for the original from the paintings - even other ships of the size like Witte Olifant 1666 or smaller have 4 above WL. Below: plan from Lelystad Dražen Bob Legge, Piet and druxey 3 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share #396 Posted September 18, 2018 … following 3 drawings of 7P, than some other Dutch ships from this age. English ships have less fittings on van de Velde drawings. Otte Blom has even 11 in his plans. Dražen Keith Black, Benjamin Raule, Ondras71 and 10 others 12 1 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 12, 2018 Share #397 Posted December 12, 2018 Fantastic work Drazen and thanks for all the detail photos, which are very helpful for all future builders. The banner looks exceptional. Cheers, mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopape Posted December 16, 2018 Share #398 Posted December 16, 2018 Absolutely awesome construction !!!! Keith Black, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Ve výstavbě: Pinase 1660 - 1670 Můj web : https://kopape.webnode.cz/ Dokončeno: Grosse jacht 1678 Janita 18. století Golden Hind Jadran Santa Maria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share #399 Posted January 26, 2019 Just a question if someone can give hints: I am getting cracks in wood due to humidity deviations. Please see my posting here: Drazen Piet and mtaylor 2 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORTES Posted January 26, 2019 Share #400 Posted January 26, 2019 It is with a great interst that I studied Your presentation. It's a very high-quality, masterly work! I have found many intersting methods and technologies. Thank you very much for sharing your experience. Wishing You inspiration in Your further work. My best regards. Piet, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted January 28, 2019 Share #401 Posted January 28, 2019 Hello Drazen, I'm not much help with your question in that I am a meta kind of guy. However, a wood preservative comes to mind that may help keep the moisture fluctuation at bay. Looking at your picture it appears that was a few years ago at an earlier stage of your build and you received 17 comments on it. Do you still have the cracking problem? Cheers, mtaylor 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #402 Posted February 5, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 2:26 AM, Piet said: Hello Drazen, I'm not much help with your question in that I am a meta kind of guy. However, a wood preservative comes to mind that may help keep the moisture fluctuation at bay. Looking at your picture it appears that was a few years ago at an earlier stage of your build and you received 17 comments on it. Do you still have the cracking problem? Cheers, Hi Piet, dear friend! I am working on this problem right now. Out of the help received in the MSW, I decided to buy a humidifier for winter and a dehumidifier for summer. I am right now testing the humidifier. It works fine (an ultrasonic device), but has some problem with measuring humidity and thus steering the humidity on 50%. I will report in the other link about this appliance and how much it helps. Link: This cracking is older, but is getting worse with the time. I just hope, it will go back somehow if I manage to keep the humidity between 40% and 60%. Till now, I did not do much effort on adjusting the humidity in my cellar. Drazen mtaylor, paulsutcliffe and Piet 3 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #403 Posted February 5, 2019 Let's go to more beautiful postings than cracking 🙂 ... the production of the decoration in transom... I first made a tool to mill the outer frame of the transom and have inserted it into the Proxxon milling machine. The upper guiding part of the machine is custom made by myself and according the Russian advices on the DVD (Dr. Mike). Still, I have changed some things according to my logic. The milling tool is made out of a common nail, which has been hammered and rasped to the shape in order to get the profile I need. Drazen Keith Black, Piet, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #404 Posted February 5, 2019 The lower part of the transom frame after milling Drazen Piet, paulsutcliffe, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #405 Posted February 5, 2019 After bending the three pieces of the frame (per side) on the steam, I have inserted them into the position on the ship, so they follow the shape. Drazen oneslim, paulsutcliffe, Keith Black and 3 others 6 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #406 Posted February 5, 2019 ... and put just slight amounts of thin CA-glue to hold them in shape. Take care: Not to let the glue make your frame stick on the hull (you will want to remove it later on) CA glue will leave yellow colouring on the maple wood. On the pear wood it does not leave any colouration. Than I removed the frames and put additional thin/easy flowing epoxy resin to make it more solid. Drazen paulsutcliffe, marktiedens, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #407 Posted February 5, 2019 Than, I ground the inner shape of the frame to get the wished angle when installed. Drazen cog, Piet, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #408 Posted February 5, 2019 .. difficult process on deciding on the decoration form/pattern. There are different decorations on the van de Velde drawings for the same ship. Also the models from the museums are not following the same pattern. I decided to follow the drawing here - second from above. Drazen mtaylor, Piet, Benjamin Raule and 6 others 9 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #409 Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Luckily, the pattern was similar as I have on my plans. So, I cut the part of the plan and check if it fits into my frame Drazen Edited February 5, 2019 by Drazen Benjamin Raule, Keith Black, oneslim and 5 others 8 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #410 Posted February 5, 2019 Since the pattern was not 100% clear, I needed to understand the forms. I made my own drawings about general shapes I want to get Drazen Keith Black, mtaylor, cog and 7 others 10 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #411 Posted February 5, 2019 Than I made a piece of stripe which fits right into the frame. I took boxwood and bent it on the steam. The stripe out of the plan, I glued on the boxwood stripe. After that, I started to work on the shape - bit-by-bit. Drazen Benjamin Raule, paulsutcliffe, oneslim and 5 others 8 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #412 Posted February 5, 2019 What came out was a coarse "prototype". I checked the fit into the frame. Drazen mtaylor, John Allen, GrandpaPhil and 7 others 10 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #413 Posted February 5, 2019 ... and we go to the other side... which has to be more or less - symmetrical. For this, I simply scanned the part, mirrored it in the Photoshop and glued it on another boxwood stripe. Now, I am working with my own pattern and no more with the pattern from the plan. Drazen Benjamin Raule, Piet, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #414 Posted February 5, 2019 The other side ready and checked on fit into the frame. I still have the coarse prototypes. Drazen John Allen, Keith Black, igorcap and 9 others 12 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #415 Posted February 5, 2019 After refining the shape to get more 3D-effect and "contents behind the surface", I am ready with my decoration pattern. Drazen cog, Jolley Roger, Keith Black and 12 others 15 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #416 Posted February 5, 2019 Painting... 1st. : priming It was difficult to get the best primer for wood. I finally decided on Golden GAC 100. This shall save the wood from decay and protect getting oil paint into the wood (bad for wood and bad for the surface effect). I think, in my next parts, I will use several thin layers of shellac to protect instead GAC100 beacause GAC100 makes the surface not so smooth and is difficult to grind and correct. After GAC100, I apply Gesso primer by Royal Talens. This one is very nice and has acceptable price. Gesso is needed to get a solid grip for the oil paint. All this in thin coats not to "destroy" the pattern. I am using high quality brushes Drazen Keith Black, mtaylor, oneslim and 4 others 7 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #417 Posted February 5, 2019 ... than: 1) 4 very thin layers of Old Holland "yellow ochre light" (probably best oil paint brand existing - Old Holland). Always brushing the excessive outer surfaces to increase the 3D effect and depth of the structure. 2) Than finally only one thin layer of the "old Holland ochre" (Old Holland brand again). This one is of darker nuance then the first 4 layers. You must imagine a very thin paint staying in the recessed areas slightly thicker and on the exposed areas nearly totally brushed away. Let the layers dry thoroughly before moving to the next layer!! Drazen Piet, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #418 Posted February 5, 2019 Now: again make a copy f the form, and cut out the paper stripes. Put the stripes into the frames and remove paint on the frame on some areas - so the glue can get to the wood. On paint, it will nit hold well. Drazen Piet, Captain Poison, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #419 Posted February 5, 2019 ... glueing with epoxy. Protect the oil paint when applying pressure! A big drawback of oil paint is the low resistance to the mechanical influence. Drazen Captain Poison, Piet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazen Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share #420 Posted February 5, 2019 ... and how it looks... Note, this is the length of exact 90 mm. So, try to look at the real size on the screen to get the real impression. Drazen Captain Poison, Benjamin Raule, paulsutcliffe and 13 others 15 1 Quote There are no boundaries... … besides those we set for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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