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I had a heck of a time belaying lines to the pinrail on the other side. Bent tweezers and other gadgets just didn't do it for my clumsy fingers.

 

Here is what I did. I took some brass wire, made two V shaped hooks at the end and silver soldered them to the side of a thicker wire. The idea is that I wanted to push the line underneath and behind the belaying pin. I spaced the two wires such that they cleared the pin. Now with the line slack on the deck, I can push the line with this two pronged tool as shown in the sketches below. Once there, I pull the line taut and hook it to the pin on top.

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I had success the first time I tried it.

Edited by Modeler12

Jay

 

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That's a handy device ...

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Here are two more pictures of the tool in action. The other end of the dowel holds a toothpick that I use to apply a tiny drop of AC when the line is in place. On the outside of the hull are some clamps to hold the line tight while the adhesive cures. 

When that is done I trim the line and cover the whole thing with some matching rope coils.

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I noticed again that Connie has a bad case of dandruff. Been sitting in the garage too long, I guess.

Edited by Modeler12

Jay

 

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I am sorry guys, but this thing is so handy I decided to put a copy right on the pictures (above edits). 

I am not that interested in making these things, but to do this out of molded plastic would be much simpler and better.

If anyone is interested (or know how to) commercialize something like this, let me know.

 

As I play around with it, I find other spots where lines go around pins and even other lines. During the rigging phase I found several times that lines don't come down like you want them. They get tangled up or twisted and need some guidance. This, and a related 'pull type' would facilitate that.

 

Anyway, I would appreciate comments. 

Jay

 

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Jay,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I have a tool very similar to this that I purchased from Micro Mark many years ago.  It is part of a set called "5 piece Rigging Tool Set" and is still available in their catalog (part # 60378).  They have both push and pull type tools and even on that has an offset reach.

 

Regards,

Henry

 

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Posted

Jay,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I have a tool very similar to this that I purchased from Micro Mark many years ago.  It is part of a set called "5 piece Rigging Tool Set" and is still available in their catalog (part # 60378).  They have both push and pull type tools and even on that has an offset reach.

 

Regards,

No problem. I am not surprised that someone else thought of this before.

The advantage of this one is that it has two prongs that fit around the pin. Pushing with one tip is harder. I have also used crochet hooks to pull lines, but they also are too bulky.

Jay

 

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Although the tool worked fine, the craftmanship was lousy. 

Here is the new version. Now the hooks are better and the whole thing stronger.

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Jay

 

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Jay,

 

A slightly simpler way of making the hook parts might be to use large sewing needles with the eye cut in half. I like the idea of using TWO hooks though - I can see that this would make it a lot easier to get the line behind the bottom of the pin. Might save a lot of colourful language I imagine! ;)

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I like it, Grant. How simple.

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You have to make sure the needles are pointing in the right direction.

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I like it!

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  • 4 months later...
Posted (edited)

thank you!!!!

amazing idea !!!!!!!

 

I did it now and its fantastic !!!!

here is some pics...

 

By the way do you putt some glue after you tie the rope on the belaying pin ?

 

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Posted
Hi all and thanks for sharing.

Just food for thought (inspiration) from a retrieved tip of mine,  from the days of DDM. 

Thanks

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Posted (edited)

Hi Thanasis

You have to get that tool for your collection i think its the best tool for belaynig credit and thank to Jay

 

Lol just waiting to finish my day at work to go home for using my new tool i spent s lot of time trying to tie the the lines on rhe belaying pins and now finally its easy.

Best regards

Michael.

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  • 9 years later...
Posted
On 12/21/2024 at 8:07 AM, Wind Jammer said:

How about just looping the end of the line with a loose knot then using tweezers to loop the bottom of the belaying pin then the top pulling the knot tight with the loose end securing the line to the pin. No special tool required.

This is the technique I use although sometimes the loop doesn’t lay exactly right and I need to fiddle around with a pair of tweezers. 
Tom

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