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#41
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Love the picture edbardet!! That's interesting and cleaver. Making models about people building ships. You could of started something here
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How large would a standard figure (5-6ft tall) be at 1/64 scale?
My calculation is 6ft = 72 inches. 72/64=1.125 inches or 28.5 MM. Is this correct?
Thanks,
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Richard,

Yes

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Lion Heart,

     Check New Line and Redoubt miniatures on Google--- a pretty good selection of figures for at least the Napoleonic era. Sometimes these wargame figures can be a bit course, but more subdued painting can help. I bought a 28mm British longboat/landing party from Redoubt, whom I am now trying to squeeze into a Caldercraft pinnace--- a project which is causing a lot of cursing and staggering here at the Ward. All cross-pond dealings have been excellent with them.

28 mm is a popular scale with the Game Crazies, but you have to dig a little for what you need for 1/64, assuming your ship was not manned by a hellbroth of Orcs. 

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Keep in mind that there tends to be "scale creep" in at least some ranges of gaming figures (the figure is larger than the advertised scale e.g. a figure advertised at 28mm actually measures 30mm tall), so some 25mm figures might be more correct size-wise than 28's.


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Thanks all,
This helps. I guess the only way to know if there is scale creep is to measure after it arrives. I found a company callers Cornwall model boats. They list some by scale, I.e., 1:64. I will try a couple of theirs. Shipping is really not too bad to the U.S.
I really wanted one or two figures to help get a feel for the size of a 1:64 ship model I am workin on. Hoped it would help put not only the boat, but parts like cannon, blocks, etc into perspective. May be se how close to reality they really are.

Luckily Cornwall has sailors who are not orcs.
I think the last time I dealt with orcs was in an MSDOS text game.
Yes, that was awhile ago.

Again thanks to all
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Richard,
Good concept! You will notice that most all of the Wood Wizards on this site keep a scale figure constantly at hand while building. Without that perspective, it is all too easy to slip into building a model of a model, instead of a model of a ship. In fact, some of the Brainiacs here may have slid a little too far in identifying with the Little People, but that's another story..... "Frame of Reference" is a critical factor in good model building. It ultimately is what distinguishes good modelers from amateurs. Your 1/64 geeks will keep your head in the right place. BTW, Cornwall is a great store---- we U.S. types need to watch the shipping $$ on some stuff.
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Richard,

 

Cornwall is The Best, period. I just ordered a large Caldercraft kit (32 lbs.) and it took just 3 days to arrive on my doorstep here in CT- and it was NOT expedited delivery. Every past transaction with them (approximately a dozen) has been smooth, flawless. And, they have the best prices (and complete inventory) of any of the internet resources.

 

Now, how is this relevant? Cornwall stocks both 25mm and 35mm Amati cast metal ("Brittania") figures. Both size sets feature a total of six different figure poses. I found that for 1/64 scale that the 35mm figures are a much better choice; yes, they are slightly larger than a 5foot 6inch 18th-c seaman, but they look better displayed in context with the model. Especially the captain figure. I found the 25mm figures a little too small, they look like midgets and dwarves running around, more like Games Workshop Orcs and Hellions... The Amati figures are about $2.50ish ea., but that's o.k. with me. Shipping from the UK is minimal.

 

So far, my other attempts to find nicely molded 17th/18th C sailors in 25-35mm scale has been dismal. Even plastic ones.

 

If anyone here has tips otherwise -even plastic or especially finely cast metal figures, please let me know!

 

Good Luck.  :cheers:

 

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<<Shipping from the UK is minimal.>>
I wish I could say the same for shipping from USA to UK.

Some of the Model Expo stuff (including the kits) is really, really luscious, but the cost of delivery to me here in the Old World is severely off-putting.

(but I echo your praise for Cornwall, Ron!)


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These wargaming figurines in general look more like garden gnomes than normal humans, their proportions are not good at all.

 

Some years the United States Post Office made a rather customer-unfriendly decision and stopped what was called 'surface mail'. Stuff did take 8 to 10 weeks to arrive in Europe, but with a bit of planning it didn't matter and it was a lot cheaper than 'airmail'. It is quite strange, as you can get stuff from China for almost nothing ... not a good move in a globalising economy.

 

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Here a link to the French maker "Historex" of excellent 54 mm plastic figurines (mostly Empire and late 18th century) - very easy to adapt, lots of accessories and spare parts, and even all the replacement parts you will ever need (heads with different facial expressions, torsos, arms ,legs etc.).

Their Website is mostly in French, with parts in English.

Enjoy

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Gregor,

 

    Thank you for the link.


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Gregor,
Nice figures, but I am looking for 1:64 scale (about 25-30mm). please let me know if i missed them. I do not speak French.
Thanks for the tip. They are beautiful figures.

Ron,
Is the 25mm do not look correct, I will order the larger ones. I'll get back to this thread when they arrive.
Thanks to all
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Historex only works in the 1/32 or 54 mm scale.

 

The problem is that 30 mm is the classical flat figure scale and rarely any fully round figures were produced. For a short period there were one or two UK manufacturers (one of them had been later sold to Sweden, I believe). They had an outlet in Shepherd St., Central London, but have long gone.

 

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Sorry, Richard: Historex figures really only come in 54 mm, you didn't miss anything there. For 1/64 I'm working with a 28 mm Amati officer. 1.8 m might be a little too tall for the 18th century, but he's wearing a hat, and having passed for gentleman he's obviously better fed than most of his contemporaries.

;)

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Ron,
which kit did you get?
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You may want to go through this Web-site: http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/. It concerns figures that are nominally 1/72, but in reality there is quite a variability of the 'average' height chosen by the various manufacturers. You may find an 'oversize' set that is more towards 1/64.

 

Otherwise, dive into virtual 3D-computer modelling and have the results printed in real 3D. I believe that 'anatomical' virtual 3D people are available as a starting point. Could be an interesting small business idea ...

 

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Hi.

I dont know if you can use the figures below.

They are from the game Warhammer and are the Empire troops.

Thease are gun crew that come with the guns.

They come as parts and you assemble and paint to your army colours.

 

Mixed figures.

1 36 scale figures 001.jpg

 

Another angle.

1 36 scale figures 002.jpg

 

Close up of crew

1 36 scale figures 003.jpg

 

Another closeup of the gun crew.

1 36 scale figures 004.jpg

 

 

They are 35mm in height and can be curved with a knife.

Also the gun loading bits come with the kit as well :)

I will be using some in my 1.36 scale cross section.

 

Regards Antony.


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Here's a little help on how to work over your little figures................hope this helps

Wonderful explanation the drawing attached, thank you! This is exactly  how I worked on my 1:100 Preiser figures. Works the same for all other scales.

 

 

 

First vivisection ...
 
Victory_Frankenstein_1501.jpg
 
... and then reassembled, on the right, the poor lad before being transformed ...
 
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... and left in his new life as gun captain, holding a leather bag against the vent  to air seal it, for that no smoldering ashes is pushed upwards, while the barrel is sponged.
 
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Two of the Misters got funny tails made of paper stiffened with CA - one already can guess, the marines ...
 
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... a bit of paint applied ...
 
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.... and the crew is complete :-)
The lieutenant, the gun captain, loader 2 with the bullet, sponger 2 with the wad pads, powdermonkee, the marine (at ease, the crossbelts off and the button opened). Sponger and loader are already at their place, waiting for the rest of the gang, the second gun captain and the 7 auxiliaries to pull the strings ...
 
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Don´t ask what the ship can do for the men, ask what do the men have to do for the ship!
 
Do not look at the figure and ask what could it possibly do ...
 
The trick is to have a look at the task and then teach each single man how to be acting accordingly. 
 
Here is the crew in place, 13 men 
 
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... or a bit more inside the melée: drama baby - drama :-)
 
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Cheers, Daniel

Edited by dafi, 14 December 2013 - 09:55 PM.

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What size would be at 1:90 scale?






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