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Pegasus is essentially an upgraded Fly kit. Most of the details that come standard in the Pegasus kit must be purchased separately for Fly, thus the difference in price. Either will build into a very nice model.

Have you tried contacting Bluejacket directly? Also, Al Ross, who I believe designed the kit, is a member here (alross2), though not very active -- try sending him a p.m.

Hi. I just noticed the 'CARD' tag on the title of this thread, so I had a look through it. I see you are discovering all the joys and agonies of paper! But your experience makes a very valid argument in favor of paper, namely the relative ease and low cost of starting over, if necessary. There is a learning curve for this medium, and one can already see much improvement between your first few pics and your more recent posts. Keep at it -- your future efforts will be better still! Cheers!

Pardon me if you answered this somewhere already, but didn't Bismarck have eight 37 mm twin mounts? That would mean you have two spares in the works. Which is not bad, of course, considering how delicate these fine brass parts can be.

I have seen several completed Woody Joe models and can vouch for the quality of the finished product, but I've never seen an actual unbuilt kit in the box up and close. I do know that Japanese modelers tend to be very meticulous and would expect models aimed at that market to be pretty good.

Good work with the PE, but I thought you said it is a card model!

That's dedication to craftsmanship, Mark. Good luck on the Mk II!

I've been an advocate of penciled panel lines and glued boltropes for years. Properly sewn sails certainly don't look bad on a model, but the actual-size sitching of real sails can't be duplicated in the scales we work at, and besides such lines are practically invisible at scale viewing distances. Cheers!

Chris Watton designed both kits, so both of them will have similar design concepts. However, Chris being the innovator he is, he has regularly made improvements to his designs with each new issue, and that will be reflected in the Vanguard kit, since it is by far the newer of the two. I have the Amati/Victory Models Fly kit in progress and can tell you honestly it is a great kit. But like any kit, it has compromises and can be improved upon by any modeller wishing to do a little extra research and work. Same is most likely true for Vanguard. I have also built a Caldercraft kit, and it was a great kit, too. So, bottom line is both are good kits, but both can be taken up a notch, especially since you say you have experience scratching parts. The deciding factor may well be how much model do you want to commit to? One is a frigate, the other is a ship of the line with all that entails. Either of them will be a long-term project, so I'd go with whichever one set my heart to beating just that much faster. Cheers!

The Victory Models line, a subsidiary of Amati and of which the Lady Nelson is a part, is an excellent range of kits. Cutters make good first models, and there are many build logs of cutters here at MSW to peruse for tips.

Darr, Nature Coast Hobby Shop also sells this sort of kit/tool combo. Personally, I would be cautious about buying something like this, as the tools included might or might not be something your dad would find useful, and for the prices listed you can probably buy a kit and some basic tools for less. If your dad has not modeled anything in a while, I'd recommend one of the kits from Midwest Products to get old skills back up to speed. These kits are inexpensive (and can usually be found on eBay for significantly less than retail), have good instructions, and always include a thorough list of needed tools, some of which are likely already in your dad's house somewhere. Kind regards,

Nice photographs, and interesting to have a personal connection to the subject matter. Your ancestor's ship has very fine lines - I can imagine she was a fast sailer. Regards,

I think the fact that I keep wondering, "How did she do that?" when I see your work speaks volumes about your abilities. Very impressive! Cheers!

If you are speaking of Galt, California, then I can't say that I envy them too much, since I have lived in the mountains most of my life and lovingly refer to residents of the Sacramento - San Joaquin valley as 'flatlanders'. (My parents grew up in Stockton, just a few miles south of there, and I still have many relatives in the area.) As for 'American livery', common practice for that time seems to have been a black hull (with possibly white across the gun ports) and green inner bulwarks, maybe coppering below the waterline. This would all be conjectural, since if I remember my reading correctly, she wasn't actually taken into service. The kit will also not have any sail material in it, but it would not be difficult to make up a set and rig them for Ballahoo, as she had a very simple rig. Cheers!

These small Caldercraft kits present wonderful opportunities for super-detailing, if that is something that interests you. All of these kits, which by the way were designed by Chris Watton who frequents the forum regularly, will build into very nice models straight out of the box. But, since they were designed with beginners in mind, they are somewhat simplified. Caldercraft's Sherbourne kit is one such model that has been souped up by some of our members; as one example, check out this build by dubz, who has a knack for this sort of thing. Another angle to consider, though this might not be all that appealing to an English builder, is that Ballahoo was captured by the Americans during the War of 1812, and although there is little documentation of her after that event, it would be interesting to see a model of her done up in hypothetical American livery. No matter which build route you decide to go, have fun with this kit and rest secure knowing it is a quality model and well-suited for a novice builder. Cheers!

John, Just saw this thread for the first time. Excellent choice of subject!

The first thing you need to ascertain is which Herreshoff kit are you building? The Boy's Boat is one of the designs BJ acquired when they purchased the old Laughing Whale company years ago. Since then, BJ has updated some of the Laughing Whale designs, but (to the best of my knowledge) not all of them. The old Laughing Whale kit was not true to the original Herreshoff design, in that the kit uses the typical POB construction method (like in your Midwest lobster smack), and this will be plainly visible on the finished model. I used to have the Laughing Whale version years ago, and the only thing I can dimly remember that might have been caution-worthy is that the number of bulkheads was on the small side, with extensions that could probably be snapped off somewhat easily, but this is true for many small boat kits. Other than that, the materials were good. The instructions were sparse - nothing like what you would get in a Midwest kit, for example. BJ do have a good reputation for customer support, so if you ran into difficulties you could most likely get help from them.

Zero warning points is good!

Good luck on your project! I love the lines of the Whitehalls.

Have you tried Chapelle's American Small Sailing Craft? Probably a few sets of lines in there, I would imagine, and you can probably get the book through your local library.

It always comes back to balancing how much detail do we wish to show with how much pain and/or effort are we willing to endure to get that level of detail. I include more than some guys, and some guys include more than I do. Hopefully, each of us is happy with what we produce. Cheers!

Nice to see this model back!

And finally, a few dabs of touch-up paint here and there, and a careful separation of the model from its working base (sliding mono-filament line between the two does the trick neatly), and V108 is done, done, done! I hope you have enjoyed reading this tutorial as much as I have enjoyed creating it. I really, really hope that at least a few of you will be emboldened by this little treatise to step out and try a card model of your own. Let's see what you can do!

After installing all the railings, there are only a few items left to do. The anchors can be glued to the deck on the forecastle. If you wish, you can add anchor chain. Some kits include printed anchor chain, but this one does not. Another item is masts and rigging. There are any number of materials you can use for making masts, including wood dowels, toothpicks, metal rod, and/or styrene rod. Heck, I even used dry spaghetti on one of my early models (brittle and not recommended!). I used styrene rod for this model. The instructions include 1:1 templates for making and tapering the masts and spars. One tip to make construction easier is to assemble the entire mast off the model, including the halliard and topping lift on the mainmast, and then spray paint the entire assembly before gluing it to the model. You can add as much or as little rigging as you like. The rigging on this model is made from two pound mono-filament fishing line. The kit does not include an ensign, but adding one is not difficult. I found an image on-line of an Imperial Navy ensign, scaled it to the proper size, and printed two copies of it on 20# bond paper - one in its normal orientation, and one flipped horizontally to make the other side. I cut out and glued the two sides together and then added some folds so the flag would will hang naturally. The finished flag was then glued to the mainmast halliard with some CA glue. Next: The Reveal!

So, how do our thread railings look on the model? Judge for yourself: Adding the railings consists of measuring off the right length of railing to add, adding any extra stanchions that might be needed due to cutting to length, and gluing the railings to the model. I use PVA for straight sections and CA where necessary to tack down any sharp curves. I brush the PVA onto the deck where the railing goes, not to the railing itself - these springy railings are a great way to spread unwanted glue on your model. Here's the finished forecastle railings: The forward flagstaff is a short length of wire. Anywhere there are angled bends in the railings, I prefer to cut the railing at the joint and glue down two separate panels. Unlike photo-etched metal or card, thread does not like to make nice, crisp bends.