Chapman

The PDF inspires you so much that you immediately want to build a ship from the 17th century. Thanks for that !

Hello!

The kit comes from Korabel, see Korabel , and is available.

Hi!

A new book entitled French Warships in the Age of Steam 1859–1914 by Winfield will be published soon.
That could bring new insights.

I forgot,

one more point that might be interesting. According to Patrick Villiers, this figure is part of the
Atlas de Colbert from about 1670.

Hi there ,

nice to look at as always.
This link should be of interest to you. It leads to high-resolution files of the rear and rear side view of the Dauphin Royal by Le Brun.

Have Fun!

Moin Waldemar!

4 hours ago, Waldemar said:

The "Weisse Hund" requires 12 guns of 4 or 5 pounds of iron [roundshot].

The term Iron refers to the gun barrel. At the time, a decision was made between iron and bronze guns, the latter being referred to as "metal" guns.

Hello,

this model of a Norman Nef  in the Deutsches Museum in Munich was built by Zimmermann after his own reconstruction.

https://www.modelships.de/Museums_and_replicas/Deutsches_Museum_Muenchen/Norman-nef.htm

Hello Steven,

interesting project, I like to watch it.

By the way, there is a German reconstruction of the Nef Cinque ports.
I have them on the shelf. I'm looking forward to your reconstruction.

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These ships were massive, with tremendous dynamic forces working against them all the time; the gammoning really needs to be secured by the heavy timbering of the cutwater.

Here are two contemporary representations of artists who knew the ships.
Left: Grand Monarque by Puget
Right: Reine by van de Velde

Another piece of art fits in like a cast.
Berain would be delighted!

Hello Marc,  I take off my hat to your dedication and skills.

@Jaager

Thank you for creating the plan list. Is very helpful.

Good find Wayne.

Found them here by title.

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/publications/publications-by-subject/peculiar-skill.html

https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/publications/publications-by-subject/sea-stories.html

A well-considered and neat elaboration of this difficult part. 

The book isn't really new. The first edition is from 1985, but difficult to get.
I am happy about the new edition, especially about the plan edition because I already have the first edition book.

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"Second Part:

110-gun, 80-gun, 74-gun ships as well as those with 70, 64 and 50 guns

12-gun and 8-gun frigates

This part goes into the history of individual ships in detail. Such as the sister ship of the Hermione, the La Concorde.

I think it's very interesting. 

I like your inspiring building reports. I'm curious how you do the oil canning on a dazzle paint ship.

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On a ship so large as Soleil Royal, additional seats would certainly have been needed.  For the time being, I am leaning towards the latter, as it is somewhat plausible, given the not too distant future that the Quinze model represents.

I understand, but it seems that this detail is only shown on the Louis XV model.

The model has apparently been restored according to the paint.
What I want to say. We do not know whether the model still corresponds to the original appearance.
Also, unlike the British, these toilet / roundhouses do not seem to have caught on with the French.

Lemineurs Le Saint-Philippe -1693 could serve as a reference here too, I think.

Personally, I also find these bunker-like toilets terrible, they also don't seem to fit the style to me.

Hello Marc!

The round bunker-like toilet houses on the small deck: I have not yet been able to find on any drawing of French ships of the time.

I suspect Heller and the museum model are incorrect here. What do you think about it?

I am also German, but this old language is difficult to read if you haven't studied it in detail.

So I looked for a translation of the original.  And the travel description was translated into standard German.

https://books.google.de/books/about/Von_Konstanz_nach_Jerusalem.html?id=dDOVrgEACAAJ&redir_esc=y

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"In addition to in-depth commentary and explanations of all illustrations, this edition also offers a complete translation of the Middle High German text."

Unfortunately I don't have the book, but maybe someone can help.

On 7/9/2020 at 12:30 AM, Slowhand said:

Well I’ve been starting to put cross members on the bulkheads to lay the decks on and starting to get a little confused. The main deck was obvious and once I realised the bulwarks should go past the 2 upper decks everything looked clearer. The single plank in my previous posting above was removed and replaced by a longer one nearly reaching the next left bulkhead. But the height between the decks looked all wrong for the scale much too low.

 

So I looked at the Amati plan and the heights marked A and B in yellow for between decks are approx 2cm and 3cm so on a 50:1 plan 1 and 1.5 m high. The overall length of the ship not including bowsprit based on the 50:1 plan is ~ 20m which doesn’t sound too unreasonable. 
 

Any advice much welcome,  is it likely the Amati scale is wrong?

I think the kit is inspired by the model construction from Casa Reyna.
This plan is given as a 1: 150 scale and shows a Spanish ship named Carmen. The real scale of this plan is more like 1/90.

Or look at this unknown french Premier Rank .

Hello!

From the Album Colbert the arrangement as it should have looked around 1660/70.
Funny & important detail, the fence around the slot.

14 hours ago, Dowmer said:

Chapman,

There is a build thread of the Sirius from 1810 here on MSW.  The builder “Paul” has connections or was part of the excavation and he has pictures of some of the artifacts of the ship in his build.

 

Heres the link HMS SIRIUS - 1810

14 hours ago, paulsutcliffe said:

Hi Chapman, if you are interested in the Mauritius sirius please visit my log in my signature below, where I have pictures of archaeology from Mauritius and my build of the 1796 Syrius

Regards

Paul

 

Thanks Dowmer, beat me by one minute😁

Thank you guys, I didn't have the building report on the radar. I'll take a look over there.

13 hours ago, Jim Lad said:

Chapman, this is the only other photo of the carronade I have.

 

Alan, Air New Zealand have regular flights to Norfolk Island from Sydney, Brisbane and Auckland.

 

John

 

Thank you for the photo, the gun looks as dangerous as it was.

Frolick you are right, of course Sirius ex Berwick, my mistake. That naturally explains the early carronades.

I would have found it almost more exciting if it had been the Mauritius Sirius.