Shiphile

2 hours ago, Dan Vad said:

Thank you John.

 

Now we're getting ridiculous . There are 13 Ventilators to make - these consist of two 2mm circles with a 1mm circle sandwiched between them. The one I've made so far took me about 15 minutes, not counting glue drying time. I've got to come up with a better way of cutting them out. I've checked the Interweb for precision hole punches, but the only set that would do the job is from Waldron and costs £55.60 ($AU97.00) . There's also this lot from Historex (UK), couple of Pounds dearer. I'll probably get a set, but not until I win Lotto

Look into a Japanese Hole Punch.  If you build card, this tool becomes a good friend.

I will admit....a tad pricey, but worth it.

Enjoying your build.  I have a copy of their Bismarck with the laser cut detail set and a full set of turned barrels.  Just have not had the nerve to start this monster.  But will admit, of my card kit collection, it is the top dog.  Look forward to more.

Rick

What a detailed, precise clean build.  I just happened upon your thread and impressed does not convey the proper words.

Will pull up a chair and watch for more postings.  I am a big fan of working boats, and a whale boat  screams working craft.

I opted for another version of this kit, a Marine Model Company.  Will use your thread for those extra details.

Cheers

Rick

Oh yea, nice, very very clean precise building.  I spent many years and a wad of cash building RC Race Boats.  You know the saying.....speed =$.  Know this well.

This builds into one beautiful Cruiser.

Looking forward to more.

Rick

Enjoying your thread.  I am glad you come up with solutions to problem areas by using your head and not just relying on outside intervention.  That's how I build, not that help is bad, heaven no.  Will gladly take any advise I can get.  But for me, problems in a build is a learning curve for that next project.  Looking forward to more.

Cheers

Rick

Howdy friend, hope this finds you fit and well.  Have been watching your thread and have to admit I am gleaning ideas from it and details.  I am building a Marine Models Company Cutty and your clean precision building is helping me add the missing details.  Look forward to more when you are up to it and the build juices are flowing.

Nice start to a wonderful piece of US Navy's history.  I have looked at this kit numerous times but never pulled the trigger to purchase.  I do however have a complete and pristine copy of the Marine Model Copany's Connie.  The kit goes back to the 50's and is a very close rep of the actual hull.  Purchased a small piece of wood from the restoration of the actual Constitution.  This will be incorporated into the build.   Looking forward to more.

Rick

Wow......magnificent.

Rick

Nice, looking forward to this build.

Rick

Seems like I am hi-jacking my own thread.

Some progress on CS.

Hey, great idea there.  Hope if you do not mind if I emulate your process for stropping  a block.  Thought I would also show you another shot of where I am at.  Ready to spakle the hull and working on deck parts.

Looking forward to more of your build.

Rick

Hate to admit but, stropping a block in this scale is a daunting task.  Hopefully someone will step up and answer your question better than I would.  We both will benefit.

Wanted to show you what your build thread got started.........!

So impressed with your build, just had to jump in with a Marine Model Company Cutty Sark.  Bought 2 kits on eBay to have 1 complete kit.  I have 2 hulls, one untouched in their up grade mahogany.

And the one pictured.  Am still fairing the hull and correcting what was done already.

Rick

Howdy y'all...sorry for not posting on this project.  Promise is still in que for building.

But I have been working on another project.  Yes another !!!!!!!!!!

I need intervention!

But this has been taking what little build time I have available.

Marine Model Company's Cutty Sark.

Rick

I am very impressed with Marine Models Kits.  Your build is a perfect example of just what can be done with one.  The fittings, though rough and parting lines, are superb.  With clean up and elbow grease, they are as good if not better than what others supply.  Again, remember, these came from a time you cut the wood sheet parts, you have need of metal working skills to fabricate the parts and the metal parts take a fair amount of work.  But if one is willing, a truly nice piece can be had from these old kits.  Then there is the wood blank hull.  Most if not all the work has been done.  I have their ELCO 70 PT10.....the hull is a thing of beauty, sharp lines, correct profile....just needs some TLC and is ready to go.  By the way, I purchased this kit for $50.00,  I have some other solid hull kits that cost 3 times that, yet this kit produced all those years ago, far surpasses them.

Then you have the plans, I will press out and frame when I have completed the kits.  They are works of art.

Here are the kits I have:

ELCO 70 PT10

Thebaud Fishing Schooner

America

So if considering one of these, grab you one and prepare for old school building.

Rick

10 hours ago, Tallshiptragic said:

Fantastic! I've been thinking about attempting one of these kits as you said for something different. So it'll be good to see the quality of the parts and how they come together.

Great to have peaked your interest.  The complete laser cut kits are pricey, yes.

But the moment you open the box, inspect the contents....the sticker shocks fades.

These are not that difficult to build, but do require a thorough study of all assembly diagrams and instructions.  These are Polish made, and even though the English is good, still study the instructions and follow them religiously.  One word of caution, I really do not like the paint they now package.  Older kits came with tube gouache, think I spelled that right.  The tube paint seemed to spread smoother.

Both paints are water based.  Check out one of the smaller kits such as this one before jumping at one like the Mercury.

Rick

Enjoying your build.

Rick

Have not posted for awhile on this project.

Have been working on the Cog.

Am still adding frames and should be ready for the next step by the weekend.

Will post sum photos of progress then.

Rick

Really enjoying your build.  For years I have built planked kits.

Now after so along time of this method of building, I am more and more enamored by the ole solid hull kits.

You have done a most excellent job on this project and I shall keep watching to the end.

Rick

22 hours ago, thibaultron said:

The only thing about the kit, is I would reca0end not applying the copper tape. A US/Colonial ship of that period, was unlikely to be coppered. The British were just starting to copper their warships about this time (1780). Coppering was very expensive, and experimental at this stage. A private builder was unlikely to be using it.

 

I will be following this build. I love the Baltimore Clipper type ships!

After much searching, and following your advice about correcting the scheme as give by Shipyard.  I found what I was wishing to know.  Here is the Berbice as modeled on display at the National Museum of History, USA.

This will be the colors used.  Shipyard got the hull and hardware very close.

Thanks for sending me in the search for period corrections.

Outstanding build and presentation.

I have two Dusek kits.

The Le Cerf...I ordered the brass barrels for it.  This guy is a class act and a gentleman.

I am about to start the other kit.....a Cog.

You have shown a true piece of history can be built from his kits.

Looking forward to what you build next.

Cheers

Rick

On 3/23/2017 at 2:14 PM, Sjors said:

Thanks all .....

It was not so difficult to fix it.

I'm happy that I have still some wood left that I can use......

But it is done and i can keep going on.

 

@ Rick.

 

Old sailor !

How are you then.

That's a long time ago papership 

And you are more then welcome to follow.

And do you have a build at the moment ?

I remever that you had a lot of kits on the shelf.....

Or is the shelf falling down 

 

Sjors

I am doing well friend.

I just posted a thread on building a laser cut card kit, Berbice.

I also have another I am about to start of a Cog.

Yes, I still have several kits stashed away,  did have to brace the shelf.....lol.

Wifey is saying I need intervention....lol.

Anyhow, glad to see you still building.

How is that lovely wife doing?

You are doing a beautiful piece of work on this vessel.  Will be following your progress.

Cheers My Friend 

Rick aka papership

6 minutes ago, thibaultron said:

BTW. I have the HMS Alert kit from the same manuf. The smaller 1/96th scale, non laser kit.

Shall watch for the thread.

Rick

2 minutes ago, thibaultron said:

The only thing about the kit, is I would reca0end not applying the copper tape. A US/Colonial ship of that period, was unlikely to be coppered. The British were just starting to copper their warships about this time (1780). Coppering was very expensive, and experimental at this stage. A private builder was unlikely to be using it.

 

I will be following this build. I love the Baltimore Clipper type ships!

Thank you sir.  I struggled with this very idea.  Searching for reference on if copper sheathing was period correct, came to same conclusion, not for this time frame of vessel.  Painted bottom she will get.  You have validated what I wanted to know.

Thank you thibaultron.

Cheers Rick

Have read the complete thread to the last posting........now I set with baited breath to see the next photo of your build.

I am about to start a Dusek Cog.  I pray to the build Gods I do half as good of job as you have.  You have mad skills my friend.

Cheers Rick

Howdy Mr Fright and Richie G.

Glad to have ya aboard.  Card models are one of if not the oldest form of modeling.

A Egyptian model boat was discovered made from papyrus.....the great great grand daddy of paper!

Card modeling is very close to working in wood, pretty much same tools and glue.

Just card requires a little fenece.

I will always build period wood vessels, but also like to work with card.  Picked this style building from card and paper while stationed w/ US Army in the FRG.

Again, hope you enjoy, and there are other great card builds on the Forum as well.

Cheers Rick

This is my current card build, Berbice a Baltimore Clipper.  The kit is a box set of laser cut parts, hardware, wood dowels, paint and sails.  Copper tape is also included with the kit.  This will make my 2nd laser cut kit I have built.  The main deference between this and a normal card kit is.....the parts are all laser cut for you and you paint to add the color.  Normal card kits are in a printed format requiring cutting and assembly.  Each type requires a different approach, yet they also assemble in like manner.  I have seen card models that looked like the were in a museum.  So it is another medium to work within, the ship builder's realm.  I am also working on another project, so up dates will happen albeit slow.

Rick