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    And to add another quirk - the SR seems to have banners or ribbons running under the stern chase ports below the counter. Marc, you suggested this for the location of the motto, and I said that I never saw any evidence of such a decoration. Now here it is. Go figure Dan
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    Hi all - In some spare time I have been trolling the net to see what other images of SR and other contemporary ships exist that might add to the discussion of the true shape of the ship, especially at the stern. Here is one that I found of the Battle of Barfleur (May 29, 1692) painted by Ludolph Backhuysen. He is known as the primary Dutch marine painter after the Van de Velde family left for England. And here is a close-up of the central ship, which is confidently identified as the SR. Note that the sheer at the stern is quite flat. Perhaps this is due to the perspective of the artist being much further away than Berain's image. It may be some unfamiliarity with the ship, but note that the Dutch ship to the left of the SR has a much steeper sheer, while the British ship to the right also has a flat sheer, which we know is correct. Just my way of adding to the confusion. Dan
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    Hi Ken - You are really making good progress on the rigging. Soon she will be an eye-catching addition to your home. Could you tell me, in the first photo, what are the heavy black lines that seem to run from the topmast cap to the t'gallant yard? Thanks and congratulations, again. Dan
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    Frank - Welcome to the MSW family. No need to feel in any way intimidated by this collection of in-laws and outlaws. Your beautiful work speaks for you. What machines and techniques do you use to get such precise aluminum fittings? Congratulations on the successful models and thanks for sharing them with us. Be well Dan
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    Nils - Yes, attach those shelves VERY strongly to the wall studs. I once had to restore about 6 ocean liner models for a collector whose entire wall of shelves came crashing down one night. Not a pretty sight. Dan
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    Hi Vossiewulf - Thanks for suggesting the 'perspective' adjustment function in Photoshop. I fooled around with it a bit and it really does do a good job of adjusting for the optical distortions of perspective and parallax. Dan
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    Really nice, Nils - It is taking on the unmistakable compelling appearance of the ship. All of those little details add up to much more than the sum of the parts. Excellent work. Thanks, as always, for letting us accompany you on your journey. Dan
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    Hi Dick - Glad you have it licked. Looking forward to seeing the results. I was just agreeing with Druxey that acrylic matte medium is a good stiffener and has worked for me. Dan
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    Hi Woodrat - I have had good success, like Druxey, with acrylic matte medium. I lay up the sail with all its details - bolt ropes, cringles, reinforcements, etc. Then I lace it to the spar and suspend it horizontally from the corners of the spar and the lower corners of the sail. The matte medium is painted on and allowed to dry completely. The simple weight of the liquid medium pulls the sail into a nice billow. This can be encouraged with a small bag of rice. Once dry, it hangs quite nicely, I think. You can read more about the method, and some mistakes, in my build log of the Queen Anne's Revenge. Best of success. Dan
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    EJ's post got me thinking about what the artist sees and what he draws and, specifically, about the Berain stern painting. I think that there is an obvious artistic distortion that has been perpetuated as an engineering distortion. Maybe this is well known, but I haven't seen it discussed. Here is the painting. To improve clarity and detail I cropped and enlarged the QG section, then converted to black/white and adjusted the contrast. To me it looks like it was painted from an angle off the starboard stern. The way the size and angles of the lower lights diminishes towards the bow edge of the QG, the different perspectives of the dolphin pairs that flank the upper windows, and, most of all, the way the forward edge of the QG seems to overlap the two middle gunport openings. No shipwright would have built such an unworkable port once, much less twice. But it is exactly what an artist would see as the bulge of the QG obscured the ports. So, with the starboard aft corner of the ship being closest to the artist, it's size, and especially its height, would be increased by the optical effects of parallax. This artificially raises the rail and increases the sheer. It also increases the angle of the QG windows. Of course they do not necessarily match the sheer of the interior decks, as indicated by the lines of the gunports, but would the decks of the galleries really be so steep for the admiral and captain? The problem is that the painting is presented as though it was seen from directly athwartships. As though it is an engineering drawing without perspective. Unfortinately, the parallax issues were not adjusted and therefore any plans drawn over the painting will incorporate them. I suspect that the Heller kit does, too. To get an idea of what adjustments could be made, I did a little fooling around with the image. I put the picture into Photoshop and used the 'distort' function to put in about a 10 degree angle to a vanishing point at the horizon line. Here is how it came out Immediately the sheer dropped, the galleries leveled, and even the hull decorations took on a squarer, more regular appearance. This may not be the precise amount of parallax to correct, but it is a start. To see what this might look like with a larger area of the ship, I went to Marc's plans. Here they are without adjustment And here after putting in a similar distortion angle Finally, to see what effect this might have, I cropped out the QG from the adjusted drawing And dropped it onto Marc's distorted plans. Although this is just some doodling around, and without adjusting the designs and angles of the QG, I think it sits pretty well. Marc - I know that you are kit bashing the Heller, so you may be locked into its design, but this may be a consideration when you go to scratch-building your own. Or I could be completely wrong. LOL ! Dan
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    Hi Marc - Those plans are getting better all the time. Tracing the Berain drawing is a good idea, but the sheer looks to be exaggerated, especially at the upper rail. Maybe the artist did this as an attempt to show perspective, because there seems to be a progressive tilt from deck to deck. If so, maybe your GIMP program has a "free transform" or similar function that would allow you to pull down just that corner to make it match your space a bit closer. Also, I just ran across this discussion of the Heller SR kit when I went to renew my subscription to FineScale Modeler. Don't know if you have seen it. http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/68138.aspx The discussion ran from 2006 to 2011 and was dominated by Dr. John Tilley, professor at East Carolina University and former curator at the Mariner's Museum. He hated the kit, though he built one. Lots of links in the discussion to some pretty well built examples. Judging from those, it can be turned into a very nice looking model. But the effort to do so is tremendous. One link I read said that it had taken the builder 14 years to finish, mostly in research and correcting kit problems. Whew! I don't have that kind of dedication. With all the research and work you are putting in, yours has all the makings of being one of the best, despite any non-correctable kit issues. Dan
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    That knife is looking good! Maybe you can go on "Forged In Fire - The Miniature Show". I experimented with your pencil grip and found that even using a generic hobby handle armed with a #11 blade I could get clean, well-controlled cuts through thin sheetwoods of several species. Thanks for showing it. Dan
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    What an excellent discussion of your process. I may never make a knife, or its handle, but the story of your perseverence is inspiring, whatever the subject. Hope your wound is recovering nicely. Dan
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    Keith - What great metalwork ! I would be proud to own a yacht with fitting half so nice. Dan
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    Doris - What a great artistic eye you have ! Thanks for sharing your techniques and photos. Dan
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    Marc - It seems that my little seed has turned into quite the thicket. Sorry if I have caused you a bunch of extra work, but it seems that public opinion favors insanity. Don't worry, I am sure that I have a spare straight jacket in my closet for you, and I can tell you from personal experience that the rubber room and the shock therapy are not as bad as they seem. Ad astra per lunacy. Dan
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    Maybe you could try the easier method of straightening the gunport sides on one or two ports. If you don't like the look, you can either backfill to the original configuration, or go with the insane amount of work needed to replace all of the surrounds. If you have truly lost your mind and decide to go the replacement route, you could consider 3-D printing for the surrounds. You could make up one in the computer, then copy it multiple times and attach them to each other with sprues to form a sheet which can be printed by Shapeways or other inexpensive service. In either case, I will be watching with interest. Dan
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    Hi Marc - I think the fact that several of us have noticed the tipped gunports on the Heller casting means that they are eye-catching elements and should be adjusted if it can be done without too much work. Looking at your drawing carefully it seems that the tipping is more apparent than real. Here is how I would go about changing the model and the drawings: For the model, not much work is needed. Even the sides of the aftmost gunport need to be shifted only about 2 degrees. All of the others are closer to vertical and need less adjustment. The insides of the port can be modified with a needle file. It may be that only doing the verticals would be enough to change the look of the piece. Doing something physical on the model might make a nice change from all the drafting. As for the drawing, I do not know the program that you are using, but check to see if there is some 'rotate' or 'skew' function that you can apply to a selected portion of your drawing. The Photoshop Elements program that I use has several. Here I have simply taken a square outline of the gunport and rotated it to vertical. The second has the gunport skewed, which leaves the sill tipped. The program also lets me more carefully select just the gunport by using the 'lasso' function, but that is a much more time consuming process. If your program does not allow you to do this, I could do it for you if you send me a JPEG file of your entire hull. Dan
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    Hi Marc, E.J. - I am highly enjoying your discussions about the interpretations of these artworks as research tools. I am learning a great deal from your thoughts and M. Saunier's as well. Thinking about the question of open or closed galleries, it occurred to me that perhaps there could have been removable shutters to protect against sun, wind and elements. Then when the 'photographs' were taken, sometimes they were on, and sometimes not. It makes sense from a practical point of view, but is that something that has ever come up in your readings? Dan
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    Beautiful work, Chuck. A faithful honoring of the historical details and shipbuilding methods, without ever losing sight of the artistic whole. Such elegant solutions to so many construction challenges along the way. And such ingenious business sense to turn your efforts into your mini-kits so we can all benefit. Thanks for leading the journey. Dan
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    Hi Frank - What a lot of great work has been done since I looked in. Very precise and clean. This promises to be an excellent model. One small suggestion. For the ceiling planks it does not matter so much, but when you go to show treenails or bolts in the hull or deck planking, you should stagger the two for each plank diagonally left and right along the beam or frame. Putting them in a straight line puts the line of weakness from the holes and the line of strain from the bolts all along the same grain line in the wood. This would increase the danger of splitting along that line. I've never seen it done that way except in ships with wooden decks over a steel framework. Of course, if your excellent and thorough research and photos shows otherwise, I am fully prepared to be wrong. Be well Dan
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    Hi Eddie - I am following along as well and looking forward to your progress. The two woods that you have chosen are pretty dark. You may not like the boat that color. You can always stain a wood darker, but not lighter. For comparison, here are two boats that I did, and the lighter one is always the more popular. They are in the same scale as your build, 1:36. The lighter one is stained basswood, the darker is cherry. Whatever you choose, best of success. Dan
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    Hi Doris - I found the drawing that I was thinking of. It turned out to be the Royal Katherine herself as drawn by VdV the Elder in 1673 and reproduced in Frank Fox's book "Great Ships - The Battlefleet of King Charles II". As he shows, the half gangway goes up only to the entry port, which is much closer to the forward gunport than I would have expected. This may have been forced on the builder by the forward location of the main channel, which would have been much more difficult to move. Please be assured that none of this nit-picking detracts in any way from the beautiful work that you are doing. Be well Dan
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    Hi Doris - Thanks for pointing me to the models. I think I see how it works. The steps only go up to the level of the entry port, which is offset aft. This is the officers' entry. For the rest, a rope ladder, probably with wooden steps, would have been lowered from the rail and over the closed gunport. In combat it would have been pulled up, of course. I saw this feature in some Van de Velde sketches, but thought that the incomplete ladder was just an artistic shortcut. I should never doubt the master. Dan
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    Beautiful. Absolutely realistic. Dan

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