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This is getting exciting! It sounds like it's coming out very similar to the real thing, and I for one will be really keen to see video. In the movies, galleons (and longboats) always look absolutely planted in the water and tear long at speeds that might tempt me to slip on a pair of water-skis. Steven's description brings it all down to earth though. Beside the full-size replica of the longboat in Norway was a large-ish model in a perspex case. Maybe, when you've had enough of it, you could offload it to a museum? You'd think it would be quite interesting to see a galleon actually moving through the water.
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Usernames are, for me, like passwords - I always struggle to come up with something and kevin-the-lubber was a very off-the-cuff choice. It's fine for forum use but if I do manage to open a little 3D parts shop it's not a great label, is it! Anyway, I'm still pondering on it so we'll see.
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I'm glad the photos are proving useful, they've certainly been invaluable here. In case any of you are wondering why my log is so relatively quiet, it's because I'm doing a further, much less fragile iteration of the masts and yards and it's more difficult to remain motivated day after day when it's version 3! But I will get there, eventually. Great explanation of the 'T-shirt'! So I wasn't so far out at all! As I'm almost certainly omitting sails (just too hard for me) I think I'll include the 'cutty sark', the star and the main flag, but I completely agree that you have to take what you see at Greenwich with a pinch of salt.
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Thanks Rob, correct nomenclature is not my strong point - but at least I've progressed slightly from calling everything 'thingy's' 🤪
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Quick question - if I change my username (to something a little more grown-up!), will this break the link for anyone following my builds? Or will they automatically update?
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The tin canning effect is very realistic, Richard. That is one big ship!
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That is a very well-observed photo! The ship (the real one!) looks nice too. Where did you/does the ship sail?
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It brings the section to life, they now look like they are in conversation.
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Now that I can see the workshop items I can see how large this is - it's BIG! What are you going to do with it after it's completely finished and proven? I'm also struck by the slight similarity to a beautiful, full size replica Viking boat I saw last week in Norway - the high prow and stern, gazillions of oars and so on. Just trying to tempt you to look at a variant, after this one 🙂. (https://sagastad.no/en/the-history/the-myklebust-ship/) At least your cat looks like it settles. Ours, which is not even actually ours - it belongs to a neighbour but treats our place as its daycare facility - constantly prowls, howls and demands attention.
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That's quite a complicated arrangement, isn't it! I was going to just stick some of the following onto the masthead via a centre hole, but this is a timely post as I'm in the middle of a design revision, for reasons I'll cover when I eventually finish. As I'm not including sails and therefore haven't really looked at the sail plan, I hadn't even noticed that Campbell shows a flag, but there it is. Did you download the photos I uploaded to dropbox a while back? If not, looking at them now, I can see a flag on the mainmast but also this strange 't-shirt' shaped metal thing, which I also saw in the display down in the hold. It signifies something but I don't remember what; On the foremast, I see a star shaped metal thing, mounted on a pigstick (now that I know what it's called!); The mizzen just has a metal spike, but there are sheaves present ; and for info, these flags were on a line coming off the gaff. I'm sure someone will know what they say.
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Once the anchor is catted I assume the chains would rest on the deck. Presumably the crew laid them beside the hatch and perhaps tied them off so they didn't move around in heavy seas. On a slightly different note, I was in Haugesund in Norway last week and spotted these beauties in an antiques shop. Unfortunately it was closed and I was only there for a few hours, or I'd have been sorely tempted. The funny thing is that I've only just finished modelling these myself.
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Marsalv, I've picked up a signpost to this build and it's fantastic. I haven't yet read through from the beginning but you are making me very keen to purchase a CNC mill & lathe. That said, it's one thing to get the machine to cut the parts, quite another to bring them all together into such a gorgeous model. One question (which may be answered if I read the whole log) - have you got all of the critical design information from the monograph? I've never even seen a monograph but it sounds like something I'd like.
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Marc, it appears that Marsalv is milling the parts i.e. the lower filling parts on Page 1. Although the methods and machinery are different, the engineering processes in milling (CNC especially) and 3D design & printing are not very different. Though to be honest I've still only had the quickest flick through his log as I always seem to have three or four things on the go at the moment. At 6 feet x 5 feet you might need to negotiate who gets to build what!
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Interesting conversation here over the last week, I’ve enjoyed reading it! I was an absolute dunce at school, especially at maths (as we call it this side of the pond). The game changer was learning trig, which was an essential part of my trade (fabricator-welder). Nice link from Marc to the Le Gros Ventre build, which is indeed gorgeous and one which I’ll now follow too. I know I am meandering towards something bigger with my 3D work and that build log has crystallised my thoughts somewhat. What struck me straight away (apart from the quality of the build) was that he’s doing in wood what I’m doing in plastic. Interesting, especially as I’ve just bought a laser cutter. Looks like I need to start browsing monographs. Regarding masts and yards Bill; I’ve completed version 2 of these for my Cutty Sark (a version 3 is in the pipeline for reasons I’ll cover in my own log), but I consciously chose an ‘off the ship’ approach just because there’s less clutter, less risk of a sleeve catching on something elsewhere on the model. Your SR is looking fabulous, and I think you can easily afford to take risks now.
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I’ll probably mull on this for a while and perhaps make some modification - at my current rate of progress I have about 15 years to think on it before declaring the ship finished 😃.
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Re the chains ripping up the hatchway, my personal view is that we're all a little misled by some erroneous drawings by the likes of campbell. All of the plans I've seen so far have been, essentially, artistic interpretations rather than engineering drawings. I think that engineering drawings would have shown what any engineer would have done with this hatch, and shipbuilders were nothing if not engineers; they'd have done what the restoration team did, as per the photo below. A small hatch in between the chain pipes. There's a much larger hatchway forward of this but that also doesnt interfere with the run of chains. I say all this because, as an engineer by trade and nature, I would never have been able to do something as stupid as having a chain this big run like that! Johnny, I do the same, to the death, and in the interest of not being struck by paralysis through analysis, I'm now just committing and, as often as not, almost immediately uttering expletives when I realise what new but utterly obvious thing I've missed. There's probably some kind of existential law around this, that says it is physically impossible to see the looming error until you've made it. The other thing that now does my head in is breaking things. As I withdrew my forceps and tweezers from slipping that tiny chain into the real, actually working, release mechanism on the cathead, smugly thinking 'nicely done, sir', "ping", off snapped the tip of the jib boom, never to be seen again. It'll be with the hinge brackets for the spanker yards, the previous versions of the catheads, numerous stanchions and countless other parts that are a right pain to remake. How did I snap the jib boom tip from there, you ask? Well, if you can figure it out please do let me know because I'm damned if I do 🙂.
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I managed to grab an hour today to work on the anchor chains. I have to say I'm deeply unconvinced by the chain running to the bollard; would any self-respecting sailor ever trash the rail or stanchion like that? I don't think so. I'm not going to move the bollard or rail now, but I might yet put an eyebolt in the hull aft of the aft of the flukes as that's how Campbell has it. Half the problem is that plate where the fluke sits (I've forgotten the proper name). When I altered the foredeck to match Campbell, I ought to have also moved that. Such is life.
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I always enjoy looking over your recent adventures Daniel, they bring the ship to life. In my mind, I’m transposing all those little characters to the real ship as real people. Gosh but it must have been a living hell inside a warship, which is something I think we tend to ‘erase’ in our very pretty models.
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Hi Kurtis - apologies, I follow threads via a weekly highlights email, hence it can be ages before I see replies! Anyway, back to the point: if I was you I’d be wanting to turn this into a hard copy that was sat on a shelf, that’s all. And because it’s currently soft copy, you could do that at whatever scale you wanted. True about the sails, unlikely that you could get something good via printing, and of course you’d have to do all the rigging by hand.
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Kurtis, I think this has been touched on before, but is it not possible to take this project through to STL’s? I know from my own work that this requires a lot of engineering thought, to make a kit, but you’re doing such a fine job here!
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Ps.I’ll get in there first - the whisker booms are upside down. I can’t believe I’ve done that twice now. Remakes in process, easily corrected.
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Thank you, I did indeed. I noticed the stepped boat supports during my last visit, liked that and replicating it is straightforward in CAD.
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Quick question, friends: what would be the 'correct' or, from a modelling perspective, nice way of tying on the boats? As you can see, I have provided a generous number of rings to tie to (tiny twisted wire rings), as I'll be adding boat masts, spare yards etc presently, but I'd like to use a pretty method for tying on the boats rather than completely fudge it. A sketch, however crude, or link to a build log would be appreciated. Obviously it doesn't have to be a CS. I know how I'd do this when tying a load onto my roof rack, though I don't know the name of the knot! In other news, yesterdays damage repaired, complete with detachable whiskers. I also dug into my reserves of courage and applied the draft decals. I have been ducking this for ages as it's one of those things I felt sure I'd mess up, but I just about got away with it.
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I could be talking nonsense here, it won't be the first time, but one thing I've discovered (among many things) over the last couple of years is how possible it is to drill tiny holes in plastic for tiny wire hinges - I'm talking 0.2mm diameter here, or 0.010" in old money. When I started out I thought this would be nigh on impossible but have found the hardest part is to avoid sticking the drillbits into my fingers 🤪. Anyway, I have it in mind to try that approach when I resume work on the Victory (there are of course no gunports on the CS) in the expectation that the wires should be virtually invisible.
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