Vladimir_Wairoa

Howes rig & various standing rigging excerpts. Before I return to spreaders complicacy, Id like to stop here with howes rig, which became accepted standard for late tall ships. Im sure many understand well its principle, but i want to have it here even fof myself. I found Crothers explanation best one fore with hisastery of communicating technical twrms and using words for uneducated. There is hovewer oneystery that is unsolved yet for me and thst is lift for furthermentioned lower topsail yard.. I will have to check on Robs for answer. If you have one please dont hesitate to help in here. The first howes rig was fitted in clipper Climax 1853. Essentially, Capt. Howes closed gap between the lower and upper topsails. however, this was accompanied by several other innovations whicj were so practical and successful that the new rig, nearing howes name immediately becd a rig of choice and, in its essential form remained standard for remainder of the age of sail. probably more important than closing the gap was the manner in which the lower topsail was slung. basic details are very interesting. Howes first diversion from Forbes ideas was to dispose of the lenghtened lower masts and greatly extended mastheads returning both ti the proportions that prevailed in conventional rigs. any inclination to step the topmasts abaft the lower masts was never considered. the second, and most universally accepted change was incorporated into the installation of his lower topsail yard. the yard would be a fixed, permanent installation with its iron truss fashioned into forward portion of the lower cap. the overturning moment generated by weight of yard hanging from cap was countered by an iron crane which extended downward to a band fixed around the heel of topmast. this yard was stationary and its sail was made without a reef ! thus it could be either set or furled as the situation warranted. the upper topsail yards were slung in the usual manner and could be lowered upon the cap. these sails contained one reef and were cut straight on the foot. the foot was then detailed to be laced to a jackstay on the lower topsail yarf. whem both sails were set and lacing completed the result was in effect the setting of single topsail. the terrible demon - that of escape of breezes between the two sails - had been exorcised additional advances were gained in running rigging....sparing workmen loads etc... ... there are few methods of howes rig application however. I suppose Later era or american style - whatever - applies even more advanced realisation joining and sharing iron crane with wooden support - shorter crane raised from or supported by wooden timber resting on side of topmast from heel up..rather than usin single crane from bottom of heel of the topmast that would have to be thicker as weight of yard pressured it enormously..this solution seemingly fixes this issue. iron bar can be shorter and it is defacto stronger by law of physics... here are few photos of execution and some from finalizing ratlines. i must admit that rigging is ardous task, lines must be straight and firmly fastened so they wont wobble when receiving ratlines. ends have to be cut as luch as possible but without cutting tie...Im almost finished standing rigging and it consumed enormous hours - literary hundreds of hours nights, good and bad moods. there is no way to speed it up...if one wants seizing etc...That is to battle another issues. as rigging progresses towards topgallant mast and higher or mizzen mast frok topmast up, seizing ropes become look unnaturally thick. even at 1:72 clipper. its basically down to 1:96 lower yard area, kudos to Rob. oje coud appreciate liniature modelera as soon as getting into their terriroties. i found 0.25 mm threat vety very thick for seizing at that area. from there up ij yards & baclstays of thickness of 0.45 and 0.35 mm i decided to go with gluing. and im glad i did fof overall look. if someone could dispove me there is a way to seizing making it look not overthick id be firag to adopt it .. im surprised how much even harder work probably will take running riggijg. however. there is still plenty to do. i will keep much relieved pace now working with making spanker booms....possibly blocks, learning about fasyening purchases and so on..making special iron blocks for haliards... thank you for helping with comments, ideas and see you with recovering spreaders first.... V. ... to the last overal pics. i guess im spowly finding a way photographing glory even with ordinary mobile phone. overal rigging pics were one fact i was looking forward to see and im shocked how much of overal look of ship rigging takes for themselves and to complete ship. naturally as our brain is tricked and always associate vessels with belly under water _ or without belly - linvisibpe and their tall splendor all fitted .. deck fitting is now so so small under spars first sorry Rich, to spoil your interest, only moonlight is still missing but i promise photo with her once spreders are fixed or runnig rigging is up. i still have issue to get her in camera frame. or rather i have stipl small background wallpaper . there is still long long way ahead. i believe decision to go with dark seizing on standing rigging turned for the better. it desnt grab attention at all. will be my way. apology for this long brainstorming. what else to add. i dont know at this point. few issues to correct regarding spreaders - making new literally with hooks somehow...and gaf booms to make before turning mind to running rigging. im a bit exhausted but happy now. if i look back i consider this stage as big milestone, if i think of how long took making masts, yards, fitting and rigging preparation and applying , studying book etc...it was mammoth task for me. im also quite pleased with overall colors i chose for masting and rigging. natural with black and white on tops. it shines moderately not shouting and complement deck & white cabins with black hull nicely. thank you very much for looking or any comment etc... till some valuable news i wish everyone fine working time with theirs. V.

You are spot on here Grant. I will explain spreaders in more detail, to be honest I work very slowly comparing to my usual habit, realising rigging is discipline on its own, more difficult than hull making in my view. this is my first experiencd whatsoever of rigging spreaders, first thinkijg of making them in advance which proved literally wrong. Backstays dont touch them evenly or nit at all respectively, spreaders ahould be spread wider. I refrained photographing it at all so far tor two reasons and focusing for other things so far.... 1. I deliberately omitted making hooks on spreaders for two reasons. first I didnt find way how to do it without soldering, being it very yhin and fragile thinking of " cheating with just tying roped to the spreader bar if ok. 2. since spreaders are not ok positioned , I will have to remove bars from ine hole drill hole further and spread them wider to move and touch stays and figure out how to fix it on bar. or figure out a way how to make hooks as now i know where hooks would be. thank you for attentive observation and point made. I will have to think carefully how to proceed with that element. will post another bits of work meanwhile. much apreciated V. ..

Phenomenal clean work indeed Vladimir. Would you mind sharing dome from " cooking recipes" how you handle fuzziness on ropes? Its all very clean wow. IT will be great learning to watch french rig from start to finish. I would Guess frigates wouldnt have much different rigging. There is All clear in ancre, it will be great visual help for anyone attempting to rig french vessel. im totally new regarding 19 century rig , Watching with interest. V. .

Exquisite work Paul. Beautiful Small "Boat"

Congratulation to beautiful Boat and work. Enjoy good feeling and empty dyard

Amazing !

Work in progress. Thanks for likes folks. Its real mess at this point, and I fugured out few things. I definitely ditched hanging yard above topgalant first method, seems most ineffective to me, as tying ropes ať yards IS most inconvenient and complicated thing fór me, having hand above shoulders etc.... I try avoiding this as much as possible. Far easier IS tying on vise, - and i improved my method . I fasten surgical clamps with rope and put tiny amount of glue on rope - that holds seizing rope and only few Turns. I try not putting glue from outside but sometimes i have to. I spent ciuple of days making footropes ( still missing on Bowsprit ouch) , But IT looks i found pace. I fasten false mast Stick on Vice, and voila. Just removing and rolling Up to real masť from topgallant Up. Very tight and convenient. There IS 6 seized eyes - grommet, forestay 2 backstays and 2 eyes of shatered shroud pair. Quicker now. I try not to Rush. its slow process AS only fór main topgallant forestay it requiers to form seized eyes, means seizing, make bulleye, make wired eye to secure IT on top and another eye on rope. IT needs to be right. I prefer to make IT All outside of Boat, try first and ať the end only glue Up. i must say that i like glory far better with rig. It is such imoortant element of clipper,..or aby Boat...im Happy to say that standing rigging of foremast is DONE ( except Small yards and fairlead blocks ....but . I Can see k ght ať the end of tunnel meaning i Wish complete standing rigging by end of this week. partly running rig i want to do will follow but only - haliards and braces. No buntles etc AS no yards. Its already packed as hell :)) But All tidy when secured. Ať this point i have yards Hať are secured Twisted AS múch AS possible the way they dont interract with my hands.... I decided to púť few overal pics although im sorry i cant get better photos ofvl her. I dont have proper camera and i hate and almost never use wide angle photos. Too distorted view. Thank you again. V. Main topgallant mast forestay... Already in place Foremasts fóre & backstays Up. Bowsprit Has All standing rig now . Outer jibstay and royal stay came last thru rained two hooks of martingale Down thru Bull into deck.( will add footropes soon) She is big i say didnt i already say ? My poor Photo paper IS useless , i dont know how i want to pohoto her overall but i will have to get bigger background wallpaper... Now this IS what IS looks like at poor topmasts crostree...- still holding :)) YOu Can see upper topyard braces "shackled" into fid of topgallant mast. Topgallant and royal backstays touch spreader on crostree and head Down to Channel. On floor Higher .... We are ať topgallant top now where All ropes are secured by their own eyes. Order IS opposite from now Up than was in lower or topmast, slo stays ho before shrouds. Few overall pics...i still have to remove rope fuzziness ( distracting) but usually when All ropes attached.

One of the best Dusan. Amazing work. V.

Topgallant masts and higher rigging preparations ongoing. from topgallant uplift, order of rigging IS in reverse order according to Underhill. So shrouds to last over the mast top etcetera. There IS grommet to ho first and stays etc... Yards Lifts attaches to grommets... I painted yards collars. Next step. Forestays backstays and shrouds. Its All getting crowded and still no running rigging ... Thanks for stopping by, comments, observations, likes etc...

Lovely

Rigging yards You Can see lower yard attached ready to be fastened with chain. work Continues with rigging lower & lower topmast yards. I Guess I already dream about it. IT IS exactly oné year since i have made yards. Its a milestone fór me seeing them hung and moving every direction possible. They were quite a big fellowes. Im finishing also topmast ratlines. AS my rig will be moderately light - just braces and haliards...i Can have them already hung. Next step will be attaching upper topmast with All theirs peculiar glory like lifts ať the foot of fid and haliards....I hope glory comes Alive with rigging. Thank you fór watching etc... V. View on lower yard crane from top. at collar IT IS fastened by pin so IT Can move or turn diagonally from left to right, and IT Can Also turn vertically. ... Topmast shrouds rigged. Lower topmast on crane Also ale to move vertically turning on its pin and horizontally around secure pin at cap side. few pics showing solidity and massivness of lower yards. My biggest problém IS photographing her with mobile phone and get her into frame :)) Rig in morning sun :)))

Very Nice straight ratlines. I Can imagine how tiring that must be in your scale. Patience my friend and All will be over soon V.

Flawless Job, this is class. Thank you .

Very beautiful build Derek. Thanks for sharing.

Glory IS ready to take yards. I will put some photos without yards AS I Keep forgetting to photograph stages. Standing rigging was really tíme consuming task Its not without flawa but i hope I was ale to learn again something out of it. Probably most difficult was keeping pairs same length. I must say i would be in Bad mood if yards havent been Made Prior to this. I think i will never do IT other way. It cheers mind thinking yards are completed . Yay. I should make some headlinera so to sum Up. Ať this point Bowsprit IS rigged. Lower masť and topmasts are rigged completely, ratlines missing in topmasts. From topmast Up i will rig yards separately and only than IT will All to to the ship. So we have 1. Shrouds lower and topmast 2. Forestay and backstays. I plan attaching faileafs deadyes on lower shrouds later indeed. I tried various Angles.. At this point topmast trees are getting pacled and really heavy loaded. What surprised me , backstays are really tightly strung, and All IS balanced because of Clever way if counteracting ropes ...IT really weights on those little sticks. All there masts now : ..thank you .v.

Phenomenal rigging work Sir.

Hello, welcome to forum. Nice work indeed

I think I figured IT out Rob. AS far AS capstays on hemp rigged ships AS Glory was put on initially - i was a bit surprised as 1869 with All modern changes modern pumps etc She took hemp , i dont think capstays was usual practise on hemp rigged ships and i have three authorities reason fór this statement. Underhills tabs exclude capstays on hemp rigged ships and another reference Crothers in his book with Full rig asortment data typical clipper of éra doesnt show capstays on usuall rig AS Well , Michael doesnt show it on his rigging profile too. Im deliberately ommiting this peculiar feature unless someone brings total proof evidence hence backstays only. Thanks fór your input Rob.

Thanks you All fór warm words of support. Clearly this community is precious. update mom had a stroke thankfully mild one and no brain or memory or language center affected yet She is now going to rehab to help to restore walking abilities. With thankful thoughts i am now able to resume working and return to glory with easier mind... Speaking of .....Still much work ahead. Srarted topmast backstays ... i left glorry messy with topmasts rigging but was able to finish lower ratlines which Turned out rather fun and pleasing work ..photos soon... . @rwiederrich would like to ask Rob or other experienced folks about cap stay rigging fórtopmast or lower masts etc...... This is apparently one thing Underhill is not explaining clearly, at channel being Behind 6 shroud but At cap where ? Thimble At the back eur of cap or at the sídew of cap trom starboard and port side? And would glory caarry that ?and one or two ? I would be really thankfully fór that. I hope everyone is Well. Vlad By the way after christmass i stumbled on insane discount of books i couldnt miss from seaford press.. from 40 50 Down to 7 pounds or so....precious ones AS sloop of war.... And two other plans i treated myself with.... you May Guess where i will be heading after my clipper era wrap ...

Thank you Grant and others for follow Up. Just Fyi update. Works are interrupted atm as we have rather serious health issues in family. Hopefully everything will turn for better. Take care everyone....V.

Excelent indeed ! Wow

PF 2023

Many thanks Rob. & Merry Christmas.

Many thanks, wishing same to you and your family Pat.

I Wish peaceful celebrations, good health and joy everyone. This is last dressing update this year to our lady as I finally cleaned Up mess....to continue after christmass break. Been working *** Up with those shrouds and finally works on fóre topmast rigging AS Well. I Jumped Up to finish crosstrees ...and its gear. Forestay IS interesting part as there were various methods of securing stay. I first just tied fish tack caguely and temporarily at main forestay AS there will come blocks at 2/3 on its length downwards. Its clear from photographs that glory Carried double topmast Forestay carrying IT one usual way going according underhill thru Bowsprit Via cleats ať its sides and splitted IT Continued along Bowsprit thru holes in deck to be secured somewhere inside the deck. Glory Carried inner and outer jib stay All 7" served around Bowsprit Area... etc.. first going thru upper hook in martingale on port side again thru hole close Bowsprit into deck and outer oné thru upper hook on starboard side into deck in stbd side. Its All getting quite busy around Bowsprit now. 8" double backstays Also temporarily attached, served and seized ať the top. I run out of deadeyes so need to make few. Thbak you fór watching Any comments appreciated. Stand rig of main and mizzen topmast to follow. Foretopmast IS overloaded :)) Few pics ...