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Wow, those a re very good looking sails Dan! 👏

Hey another little “Nisha” build log, I will follow along to this latest addition to the growing fleet of “Mumble Bees”. The advice you have had so far is sound, if you can take a deep breath and pause to absorb the planking techniques of edge bending and tapering planks available on MSW, then things will go better we promise! We are all here to help on MSW, just give yourself time to absorb how it’s gone and if you can’t face taking the planks off just yet you can always do some of the more straight forward assemblies like the hatches and winches and keep in a “creative” mode before going back. I often jump to something easy to do whilst pondering a more difficult stage in a build. Just need time for ideas to sink in, there’s no rush. Excellent progress so far, keep at it! 👏😁

Those pumps are very good Trond, Nice details you are now adding to your build. 👍

Very neat looking planking Craig! 👏

Update for this evening is a little progress on the sails and also a start I have made on the trawl gear, I've not had as much time working on "Nisha" as I would like, the Admiral has got me doing another garden project at the moment! I'll post pics of that over in the "Gardening" section of MSW when done. The sails have been a lesson in patience, I've painted them using my airbrush and a mix of enamels to give me the worn red colour I was after. I need to add the rigging and blocks and some reef points. I have been testing these various stages; including using Letraset style rub on lettering for the Sails on my prototype sail at the top of the 'Sails' picture. Then I think I will set to the desired bend/shape and spray with matt varnish. The "Trawl Heads' are from 1mm square plastic rod, bent around a wood former, heated and then cooled into shape. These are based on description and dimensions from Edgar Marsh again. I'm not too sure on them yet, I might have to get some brass rod of the same section and try my hand at soldering. These plastic ones might be a bit too delicate to rig a beam and net to. I'll carry on for now to see how things progress; good practice for sorting out the various trawl elements, but can see myself having to learn a new skill soon! Thanks all for continuing to follow and support.

Well worth the effort Chris, those intricate details are outstanding! 👏

The Amati figures are pretty good, they need a bit of cleaning up with a file or knife but are miles better than the many “World of Warcraft” 1/64 figures on the www that look like Hobbit’s on steroids. The NRG ones look proper ‘in scale’ figures (no chunky limbs or ‘Hobbit’ feet), so think they are worth looking at, but I haven’t bought any. The Vanguard ones are excellent, but the wrong time frame for Lady Nelson.

Looking very nice, 👌

Good fix with the little shim, I found that on 'Nisha' also when doing the first planking - and you got the stern counter on without splitting it in two like me! 👏 😆

I don't blame you Chris, those ones you have done look super, I can only imagine trying to roll and bend card into those intricate shapes! Hope the glue supplies are in stock for you. 👍

That desk is a testament to your industry! 😁 Or you could claim you are "trendy" and have upcycled some distressed furniture, very "in vogue" nowadays. 😆 Btw. you should see my workbench! 🤐

I Like the new look! 👍

Regarding leaking paint from under masking tape, one little trick I use sometimes if the subsurface is a bit uneven (like most wood strip!) is to run a light coat of Matt varnish along the edge before you paint, this will help seal the edge hopefully against paint ‘wicking’ along wood grain etc. Also be careful if comparing your build to the plans, the plans for my “Nisha” had been unintentionally reduced by 15%, not sure if that is the case with the Lady Eleanor plans.

Well it would be rude not to pull up a chair! 🍿

That looks lovely Dan, well done, those rubbing strakes look nice and parallel, as to the positioning and the holes that you needed to cut out for they don't look bad at all. All part of the learning curve. As for C-A, yes it can be unforgiving, it will destroy most paints and undercoats, it doesn't adhere too well to paint anyway, so I usually scrape away down to the underlying wood/metal for gluing, fiddly process and yes get plenty of C-A smears where I don't want them. A small applicator is good for applying C-A, I use an old needle where the eye has been cut in half and dip that into a drop of C-A I put the needle point first into an old paintbrush handle to hold it.

Welcome to MSW Alex, looking forward to seeing your “Pickle” log when you get up and running. 👋

The sails have progressed better than I had hoped, I got into something of a 'production line' mentality and tackled one edge of each sail at a time, first gluing on the edge strip of a side for each sail, then letting those dry, then iron them in place, then onto the next edge and so on around each sail. Next I temporarily glued the edge wire in place with C-A, again tackling one edge on one sail at a time. Then the same for folding over and gluing the edge strip to trap the wire, then ironing to seal and flatten each edge. Really enjoyed the process actually, time just flew past, very Zen. ☺️ Without getting ahead of myself (I haven't yet got them rigged onto the model!) I am daring to dream I might be able to add sails like these onto my "Bounty" build! 😲 Next step is give these sails a 'rusty red' spray tan. I'm also considering what to do about the bolt ropes, if anything. Not sure I'm up for trying to sew something on, maybe I could glue some thread on the edges, or perhaps at 1/64 scale just paint the edges hemp/tan colour to simulate the bolt rope, or ignore it all together. Not sure yet, my prototype sail may serve yet for one last experiment on this question... Until next time, thanks for looking in.

They were an actual feature on HMAV Bounty (see extract from the Admiralty plans) and they are on my Bounty by Caldercraft. As they are drawn in RED along with the shelves for all the plant pots we can safely assume they were added for a reason when the RN purchased "Bethia" for her transformation into "Bounty" and her voyage to collect Breadfruit plants, the air scuttles above the great cabin being another addition. I assume the botanists advising the Admiralty suggested that adequate ventilation and water/light (the additional "skylights" Bligh mentions in his log and the lead lined cabin for the plants) were needed to successfully transport live plants instead of seeds? So Trond is right to have these holes, but as to if they were lined with brass/bronze, open or glazed I have no idea. Or how if open they were made water tight in stormy weather; perhaps battened tarpaulins? Great progress Trond, keep at it! 👏

Absolutely, love those late Victorian warship lines, Ram bows and tall skinny funnels. Reminds me of the front cover of Jeff Wayne’s Musical album cover “War of the Worlds” with the valiant HMS Thunderchild taking on the Martians. 😁

Morning Dave, as a general rule paint and glue are not good friends. The paint acts as a barrier often and the glue has nothing to adhere or fuse into, to make a bond. Also some glues will eat into paints and cause them to wrinkle (though that is more a problem for plastic and weld type glues.) So your initial comments are correct, glue before paint where you can and mask everything else where you can’t (unless you have a a really steady hand - I don’t ☹️) I often paint small parts first, then have to scrape the paint off in the contact surfaces to apply to a model. Hard work sometimes and yes I often (okay very often) have to do local “touch-up” painting. You are not alone in this Dave, but it just one of the little challenges of model making, really don’t think that there is a short cut.

Just beautiful Keith, lovely detailing. 👏 I have soft spot for this era, the Screw Corvettes and pre-Dreadnaught warships that were a hybrid of Sail and Steam, they look so interesting to me. I have an ambition to build a series of models based around a RN ship (with a slight family history) that has had five incarnations from Sailing sloop to Screw Corvette, Protected Cruiser, WW2 light cruiser and finally a modern Frigate. Your log giving me the idea of doing a scratch build for the Screw Corvette one. 🤔

A lovely sense of achievement isn't it when you have the second planking done! Are you going to paint the good Lady Eleanor, or leave her with the natural planking showing above the waterline? Just mentioning that for the colour of the wood filler above the waterline. Great progress. 👏

Progress update on the sails this evening. As mentioned earlier the prototype sail, was not what I wanted for the final model but was good enough to carry on to experiment with airbrush painting to see how it would come out. I mixed some old enamels I have for plastic aircraft modelling to something I hoped would look like the classic "Trawler red/brown" sails found on those craft. I sprayed of several light and fairly dry coats so as not to soak the paper and cause even more wrinkles. Quiet happy with the results so far. Now gone on to what I hope will be the final sails that I'll attach to the "Nisha", having messed about with dilute PVA glue and spray glue; the first causes too mush wrinkling of the paper and the second is well just too messy! I settled on using glue sticks! Those of you with kids, go raid their art supplies as it worked! 😂 I didn't mention in my previous post that I am using baking parchment paper and this has a slight sheen, so I needed to apply glue to both the backing template and the thin strips that I cut. But this slightly shiny surface means I had chance to position each strip before it grabbed for good. To make sure of a good fix I then iron each sail between two sheets of cartridge paper. As I am cheating a bit and only applying 'panels' to one side of the sails; to keep them as thin as possible, I am applying the reinforcement corner patches and luff reinforcement bands etc on the opposite side so that side also has some textural interest to it and relying on the still semi translucent appearance for the panel bands to show through when the lighting conditions allow. Edgar Marsh shows "Nisha" with two reef bands on the main sail and one on the foresail (but admit I have no idea how to rig that!) so I will add these, so next update will hopefully have those and the wire edging done. Thanks all for continuing to follow and comment/like.

Phew, thought I had missed your log. Well when you have finished your "Nisha" put some pictures up in the "Finished Gallery" if you have chance, so we can all have a look! 😁

That is a lovely looking model Craig, did you do a build log I have missed, I usually hunt out the Vanguard trawler builds, you have slipped under the radar!