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Hi, Thank you, the strip is the kit supplied 4.0mm wide Tanganyika. So a scale 10 inches wide, which compared to the drawing in McKay's Anatomy of the Ship book, are too wide, but on 1/50th scale may be more accurate, so you might be okay with yours, ask for more learned opinions on your build log. To be honest the Tanganyika was of mixed quality, thickness and width! Many of them were rough, so I had to sand them before I marked the edges with black marker pen, but overall I am pleased with the deck, it looks like it has severe woodworm now as I am in the middle of drilling hundreds of holes to simulate the treenails; these will be filled with wood filler. -
I've seen the plaque, Bligh's former residence is a stones throw from the Imperial War museum, well worth a visit with the imposing 15inch guns of HMS Ramillies and Resolution at the entrance.
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I just can't believe that is the Airfix kit!!! 😱 Brilliant work! 👏
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Progressed on the deck planking today. Think if I was doing this again I would do the deck planking before the bulwarks and capping rails and not after as laid out in the instructions, think the access would be easier. That will teach me for slavishly following instructions! 😆 I've given it rub down and first seal, next I will be faintly marking out the deck beams so I can do the Treenails. I'll be using the "drill & fill" technique with wood filler, as that seemed to work when I did it on the Orestes build. I know from experience I will get bored of all that drilling & filling, so can take breaks from it and build and paint my new cannons/binnacle/capstan/wheel & crew members that arrived today. 😁
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A few goodies arrived in the post today to hopefully improve a few areas of the kit. Have bought replacement 4 pounder guns, binnacle and capstan from Vanguard and a replacement brass wheel and white metal chimney from Caldercraft. These replace items that are a bit below par in the kit, I have built up the originals before I made these purchases and will do a comparison at a later date. Also got half a dozen Amati 25mm crew figures, I know these little chaps verge on being a bit whimsical, but I quite like them and did populate my previous build, HMS Orestes with a few, I have no pretence to be taken too seriously and want to have fun with my models. 😁
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Update on recent progress, completed the two anchors. Used black card as per. the instruction to form the bands, but also added a little detail by using wire to simulate the stock bolts. Puddening around the ring was done in 1mm black thread. The Stocks were coloured with dilute black enamel paint to looking like preservative, I was undecided on whether to leave the stocks natural wood or paint black as I have seen on other MSW builds. Advice from the "Ships fittings" section of the forum suggested a compromise would be a dark colour @mgdawson Thanks Mark! Also made a start on the decking....
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A good guess though I would have thought, preservatives would have been oil/tar based so a good call if not black then dark at least. I am still doing the puddening around the ring and the cable knot, so time to ponder a while longer.
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Hi, hopefully posting this in the correct area. I’m building the Bounty and currently making up the anchors, my question is should these be painted black or left natural wood? On my two previous builds I have not painted, but I have seen many builds on MSW that have painted them. If it could have been either, anyone know what the Bounty had, reading about the voyage I know Bounty lost one anchor as it’s stock was rotten and Bligh recommended voyages to warmer climes should have metal socks, but not aware of any reference to painting the stocks. Thanks for any guidance folks can give. 🙂
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I too got the Endeavour because of my interest in Cook, living in North Yorkshire, I get to visit Whitby, Staithes, Marske & Great Ayton regularly ( well before COVID I did!) looking at both kits in my stash I think I will be doing the Snake next, the Endeavour looks like the Bounty on Steroids! The lime first planking is forgiving, but the bluff bow of the Bounty and Endeavour present the same challenges to someone of my skill level.
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Hi Daniel, I'm just in awe of your attention to detail with your Bounty and the dedication to the craft to rip the planking off and start from scratch, I got upset about a few copper plates! I too have the John McKay book and have spotted some differences, but i don't have the skill or inclination to fix many of them, I'm content this time to build almost out of the box and the fact my Bounty is a bit "fat/wide" I will just have to live with (like my expanding waistline during Covid-19 lockdown! 😆) Going to follow your build with interest! 👍
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Hi Dave, the copper plates do come with the kit, you can buy them separately if you haven't got any in your kit. The CC copper plates do have prominent "bumps" on them to simulate the copper nail heads. From reading other posts on MSW, the reception of them is mixed, I think there are other ones available that are more visually pleasing, but seems they are more expensive of course! As for the CC instructions, they are very brief, but the plans are good and almost full size. I have a few CC kits, built their "Sherbourne" & "Mars" (really Orestes), I am on with this Bounty and have CC's "Snake" and "Endeavour" saved in stock, I can say the written instructions are almost identical in them all! (okay slight exaggeration, but there does seem to be a fair bit of cut and paste going on.) The materials seem okay to me, but I have no experience of other manufacturers.
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Hi Dave, I have started a build log for my Bounty, so "shadowing" you, good luck with the masts and yards. As for CC instructions they are a bit "sparse" to say the least, the plans are good though and nearly full size, so plenty of room for notes etc. so think we have poor instructions in common, thank goodness for MSW and others build logs! 😁
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Bit of progress on the stern, added the Lanterns, the instructions say to only use a single 1mm length of wire to support, but from looking at other builds and Anatomy of the Ship book, then the lantern supports were a bit more detailed, so I added some 0.7mm wire for the side supports. Also added a chain connecting the rudder to the hull. Also spent a good while re-drilling the dead eyes, in preparation for using them, as I can remember what a pain it is to try and do that when mounted on a model and you can't getting some rigging to go through them! Will do the blocks later when nearing the time for rigging. I'm waiting for some marker pens to arrive to try simulating caulking before I start the deck planking, so also made a start on the anchors. All for tonight, thanks for looking
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AJohnson replied to Seems ok to me's topic in Metal Work, Soldering and Metal Fittings
Thanks all for the tips above, I am having just this problem and think now, having read the above I am leaving the PE in too long and certainly haven't diluted the blackener. So will try as suggested for the next batch of hooks and chain plates. Thanks again! 😁 -
Thanks, I will follow your build as well, I think we both probably fell into the same trap and took on something a bit too ambitious back then. 😄
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Glad to have a fellow Bounty builder restarting their build like me, though at 25 years you have me beat, I only "paused" for 10 with mine!
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Think you have done a great job on the rudder! 👏 I am at that stage on my Bounty build and like you found it hard to get the straps to lay flat on the "bumpy" copper plates; think in hindsight marking out and flatting the "nail heads" on the copper plates would have helped. Going to follow you with interest, my next project is yet another Snake! 😃
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Hi Dave, Your Bounty is looking really good, mind if I pull up a chair and follow you? I am building the Caldercraft Bounty; know there might be a few differences between manufacturers, but still a Bounty! but I am a bit behind you, just about finishing the hull.
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So what went wrong was I started doing the Copper plates and didn't pay attention to the fact the "brick" pattern was slowly going wrong and the alternate rows were not lining up. By the time I did notice I had done about a third of one side. 😖 The only course of action was to take them off, which is where the situation got worse and the plates started taking strips of second planking with them (must have been good C-A!) I removed all the plates and put the kit in the garage and forgot all about it for a decade; well to be fair life had also got in the way that year, moving house, job changes and so on and I became very good at making excuses for not going back to the Bounty. But here we are, starting again and attached is where I have got to so far. Next steps are the deck planking, so busy searching MSW for hints and tips, have also done a few deck fittings and started the ships boat's, will post more on that next time. Thanks for looking.
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The final few pictures show the addition of the waterline mark and adding a really thin margin strip for the copper plates to butt up to. I experimented with timbers, but they kept splitting along the grain, so in the end I used plasticard cut into strips, these were then to be painted black.
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Following on second planking was done; marking out some of the main bulkheads so I could cut the second planking to lengths which helped. Below the waterline; which was to be coppered I cut all the planks roughly to thirds which eased the planking for a newbie somewhat.
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Planking was started following the “Simple Hull Planking Techniques for Beginners” published on MSW. I really enjoyed this part of the build and I recall 1st planking not taking that long, with guidance of the notes and MSW 1.0 members.
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After examining what had been built I spotted the false keel was curved and the boats were not that well done, so I decided to take everything apart and basically start over. Re-seated the bulkheads, cut in a rabbet line, added filler blocks of hard balsa and sanded and filled in preparation of first planking.
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Hi All, This is a relaunch of a build log after a “minor” pause of about 10 years! In 2010 flushed with the experience of building Calderscraft’s H.M.Cutter Sherbourne, I felt back then I could tackle something bigger and came across this kit on eBay, started by someone else and abandoned – and no I didn’t pause to think why! So Here we are in 2021 and I have dusted the old kit off and restarted it, making I think reasonable progress, but also relearning the problems and issues I had with the kit that caused me to lose heart in 2011. I have built one other model since, Caldercraft's H.M.S. Orestes (Mars) so I have learnt something along the way, but happily rediscovered MSW to help me this time! As there has been so many years in between I will just post a selection of the old photos I took back then, to give you a flavour of where I got to, then I will update with where I am now. So here is what I bought back in 2010 full of excitement!
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Thank you Tim for the pictures of your brilliant model! 😀 that's given me clues as to what I can do with my Bounty boats, should be able to make something out of the kit sheets for other parts. Also good views on how to tie them with ropes, also might have a go at the hoists to the main stay.
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