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Ah! Here is a thing, are the plans supposed to be printed on A3 (420x297mm)? as my sheets are 360x255mm which is approx. 15% smaller (maybe no coincidence?), I seem to recall Will building the Erycina mentioned the same size reduction.
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Hi @chris watton, sorry to labour this point, I have made some temporary sails, tracing over Plant Sheet #7 and they look small on the model? I have re-measured my completed mast compared to the dimensions on Plan Sheet #4 and they match (that was my first reaction - that I had made the mast too long). Holding the Plan sheets up to the light the sails on plan sheet #7 are the same size as plan sheets #8 & #9 and the dimensions of the mast as measured on those plans (#8 & #9) are smaller than your stated dimension on plan #4... Done a rough cross check with the admittedly small plans in March and these come out bigger, I think by approx.15%. I'm sincerely hoping my plan #7 is the culprit, it is on the same size sheet as the other plans 360x260mm. Thanks
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Thanks Chris, some may indeed may "prefer" to make their own - but it remains to be seen if I can! 😉 I shall copy the sail plan and do paper templates using your plans to see how they hang temporarily; I still need to resolve in my head the bowsprit position, so your sail plan will hopefully resolve that for me. Soon to be stepping masts and adding standing rigging etc. - Exciting stuff, seeing it come together, my frustration at seizing blocks aside (nothing to do with the kit, just me!) I have really enjoyed this build so far. 😁
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Hi Chris, Hope you are well. Quick question if I may, the Nisha sail plans are they same size as the rest of the plans? (Approx reduced by 14% or so?) Going to have bash at making tissue/paper ones I have seen some really beautiful examples here on MSW, if all fails expect a Nisha sail set order sometime! 🤣
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Lovely looking model, quiet an impressive Trawler fleet VM building. 👍
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An update that has taken some doing AND re-doing! 😣 I have really struggled to re-learn tying blocks to things, having not done it for ages, my first attempts either 'slipped their moorings' of their own account (too shame faced to call themselves seizing's!) or looked so naff that I cut them off myself in frustration. So an evening trawling MSW for inspiration, tip and tricks and I came a cross a few that I have tried out this last few evenings. One I found by @Thanasis is especially promising, so I have given it a go and after making my own "Tie-fast seizing tyer" out of an old paint brush. I won't go into the method, as it is very well explained in the link below. Suffice to say I will be trying it out more to see if I can become more proficient at it. My results below, six whole blocks tied on in two evening! 😆
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Lovely job Yves, one advantage to how you have done it is there are no blobs of C-A that can smear onto the copper preventing it from ageing or being treated to darken and/or add Verde green like effects using vinegar. (I have a Bounty using the kit tiles and I tried ageing it and have stubborn 'bright' tiles protected by my messy C-A application. - the last time I shall be doing that! - Thanks Yves for showing me way! 😁) @DaveBaxt I have had a quick look at this is readily available in the UK, just look under electrical wholesalers (like CPC / Farnell etc.) there is even a 6.35mm wide tape almost ideal for 1/64 scale models. 👍
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Fantastic coppering 👏 - definitely better than tiles/C-A. Are you going to 'weather' the tiles at all, or are you going to let them naturally darken over the years?
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Ha 😆, think all here on MSW is fair game and open to emulation/'stealing' (sort of one of the reasons for build logs I think 😉) You could start a trend for adding fish to trawler builds.... 🐟🐠🐡
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Really enjoying seeing you make you own masts Dave, your ‘have a go’ attitude shows the way and I think I will try to follow in your footsteps on my next build, I have not been happy with the dowels on my Bounty, so my next build will be more of a kit bash (an old HMS Snake I have in stock) so don’t want to go down that route of using the provided dowels again. where did you get your nice planes from?
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This update mostly on the progress with making the mast, gaff and bowsprit; work just starting on the boom, but nothing worth reporting on that yet. Bowsprit:- Added some little details with reference once again to Edgar Marsh and his fabulously detailed book, added a collar and ring for the Topmast stay, drilled a couple of holes to simulate the sheave for the Jib and finally added a strip of card to simulate an iron rubbing strake for when the Bowsprit is run in. Gaff:- Main addition I made was to add a rocking tumbler between the jaws of the Horns, pleased in the end it does 'rock' but yes I did break the jaws making it! 😆 glue once again my friend, finally card strips glued on to represent iron bands. Main Mast:- A few little details added over and above those provided in the kit, a topmast fid (not really visible in these pictures) an arm for Lantern halyards and mainmast cheeks; these are just visible in the Marsh plans of "Nisha" (see extract of those plans). Finally an addition that took the most time but is actually hardly visible so not really worth the effort perhaps, is that I added rubbing battens, top and tailed by a collar and chaffing plate respectively. I thinned the kit's walnut dowel where the rubbing battens were to be fixed and then cut thin strips from 0.5mm planks for the battens and glued in place. These needed sanding so the mast hoops still moved freely. Wish I had used a slightly different colour/type of wood for this, so it stood out better, but at least I know I made the effort, even if you can't see it from more than six inches away! 🤨 Finished the session off with preparing some blocks for stropping to the mast etc. I have been prevaricating around the bush regarding starting some rigging of blocks, so I have been taking my time and trawling MSW for tips. I read on other threads how pre-gluing the thread to the blocks with PVA first helps with managing the whipping process. The blocks with pins at one end are for simple beckets, which I have hopefully sealed in shape with fly tying varnish; hoping to try and not use CA for my rigging on this build.
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Looking very good James as usual! 👏 How big is ‘Saucy Jack’ in comparison to ‘Nisha’, looks similar from the pictures, but maybe wider? The ‘Admiral’ has given permission for me to build a pair of small fishing boats, also keen to see the ‘Ranger’ sometime later.
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Hi Grey we’ve all done that, breaking a part we have spent ages on, part of the process, thing is I keep having to relearn that one! 🤣 Learning to slow down is something that doesn’t come naturally to me, so you are not alone in having to keep that in mind. you are making good progress, keep at it! 👏
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Hi, really happy to see an update of your 'Bounty' you have been busy and made great progress, very neat cannons and masts, you have leap-frogged my progress there, as I have got side tracked on another little project. The ships boats are a challenge alright! 😆 Also like your dust protector - good idea! 👍
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That looks fantastic Will! 👏 the sails really bring the model to life. I’m also considering how to make the sails ‘look’ wind filled, I am watching with interest how you get along.
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Thanks Bob, The crew, boxes and barrels are all from Vanguard; all hi-res printed, I performed surgery on a couple of them to adapt for my build (the arms of the skipper so he was holding the tiller and the dog so he looked more like my daughter’s dog ‘Mylo’)
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Hi, Regarding the copper plating, I thought that issue was resolved long ago, as they have been pulling copper plates out the resting place of Bounty in Pitcairn for years? (A quick search on the web got me these links in a few minutes.) https://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/v8RrCz_SRtCcGn6qcOQXsA https://yesterdaysisland.com/artifact-wreck-bounty/
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This evening I've been putting the fish in their crates; saving a little one for the ship's dog of course! also experimenting with making a "crowded" deck. Also had a very unsuccessful attempt to use 'Letraset' rub on lettering, nope that won't work! Some rubbing down and repainting of the hull black now in order. Now need to research into alternatives... possibly print my own, just toying with the possibility on a renaming operation here...
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Hi Dave, I have just gone through that process on my ‘Nisha’ and I permanently fix my models to the pedestals and bases, so I have firm foundation before adding delicate masts and small parts. Other builders keep them on detacheable cradles, think down to personal choice.
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Hi Trond, have you seen the painting @michaelpsutton2 has done of the Bounty, lovely artwork, but one little detail Michael added I had not thought of until seeing your handrail stanchions going on, is the possibility of adding hammock ‘netting’s’ to the handrails, something I’m now considering on my ‘Bounty’.
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Hi Grey just seen this after replying to you on my log. If I had my time over and actually “planned” 😱 in advance I think a fine razor saw as you mention would be the more controlled method to go with cutting scuppers in a solid bulwark. The other alternative is obviously more complicated and means building the bulwarks from scratch starting at the top edge of the scuppers. Either way I think some structural bulwark stanchions are needed to hold the bulwarks stiff along their length. Looking forward to seeing your further ideas being tried out.
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@niwotwill good to hear you are on the mend, but yes think you are right that you take it slowly, even with vacations Covid can be tough for some. Take it easy and I am really looking forward to seeing your log updates on your rigging when you’re up to it. 👍
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@Grey I didn’t go for full length scuppers because I only thought about them after I had built the hull, a bit of fore thought and I think it could be done. To stop the bulwarks flexing I think some of the bulwark stanchions could converted into ‘structural’ pieces by glueing and pinning to the deck, but to help in this perhaps a bit of local thickening under the false deck at the perimeter for there to be more for the pinned stanchions to attach to, but this obviously needs planning and doing before the planking is done. I don’t think all stanchions would need this modification, think perhaps half a dozen equally spaced on each side might be enough. I know what you mean about builders attacking Chris’s lovely kits and doing modifications, I hope he doesn’t mind, but I do know I am only able to try these things as the underlying kit is of such quality I don’t get frustrated doing the ‘basics’ and can get all “creative” 🤣 where I want to.
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Hi Andy, how is your Nisha coming along? a few more Nishas have joined the MSW fleet to keep us company! 👍
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