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A very unusual and attractive colour scheme. Well chosen.- 69 replies
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Congratulations, Bruce. Your descriptions and photographs couldn't be clearer. The step by step walk-through and methodical approach is appreciated. Following this thread like a Bloodhound.
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Good suggestions, wefalck. If Kathy has the skill to draw her details in photoshop (or whatever it's called) she can then print onto paper or decal sheet. A word of warning, laser/inkjet pigments aren't very stable and prone to fading.
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As a cadet training ship the decks were altered drastically, at least 8 pairs of boat davits and across deck partitions and extra covered companionways. I wasn't aware she was used at the Festival of Britain which was a very popular event. Where are the photo's that must have been taken? Time for more digging. It's unfortunate that everything on the internet is only there because someone could be bothered.
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I'd like to know how Woodget managed to take that photo (4). Something not quite right there.
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Matthew Baker, the guy that came up with a ship which swallowed a giant mackerel and now this picture of flying ships. What are you guy's taking? Only kidding.😄.
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Don't forget to put darker colours over lighter ones. I'm still not convinced these diagonal lozenge patterns are authentic. Paint has always been expensive stuff to buy and apply. I would imagine the use of colour at that time may have been a purely for recognition and used on broad strakes. KISS has always been a proven system, whatever the field. What do I know?
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Just a thought...... it is often said there was a certain commonality/ convention in the ship world, especially handling running rigging and the use and position of belay points. After all, crew would have to find their way about in pitch dark on a pitching ship in any weather, even if they had just joined a particular vessel. Different periods may have varied, but seamen were a notoriously conservative bunch (for obvious reasons). I would suggest, if you can find a reliable plan of a similar ship to the Cutty, it isn't so far fetched to apply that plan.
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Yards black. The pinrails seem to be absent on the ship.
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I may be wrong....... If the Cutty Sark was so renown and remarkable in her day, how come there's so little contemporary discussion of any kind? I agree, the ship as she is now should be regarded with a modicum of suspicion. Lubbock is regarded as suspect by modern historians. I too have 99% of the books published on the subject and yes, after a while it's hard to recall what comes from where. But , as I mentioned, the overwhelming impression is, there's very little first hand information. It all smacks of a much later myth making process, romanticising what was a bit of a thing in the Victorian/Edwardian era; a wish to embolden Britain's maritime heritage. Myths of Empire. Still, the ship exists. If after all this time, it's unlikely anything new and revealing will bubble up. The truth is, we don't know enough.
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Hi, for what it's worth.....As is, I feel the boats under their davit falls should be further out, so the falls are directly overhead of each boat. That would make room for the Yawl between them. That would tidy things up. It would add interest to store other stuff on the forward deckhouse.....like some spare spars. I do believe the outside of the boats were originally painted black. Seasons greetings, Vlad.
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Then there's these. 'LS MODELS' 'MASTER KIROBEL' All three do a good range of small boats.
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These folk seem to be down your way. 'FALCONET MODELS'
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Indeed this is interesting. The basic structure is very similar to how the Yorkshire Coble is put together. I'll find some time to study this properly.
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Bruma, what a convincing way to make and finish the boat tarpaulins. Congratulations. Did you airbrush them in situ?
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Welcome from Yorkshire, Vladislav. Your cutter looks like an interesting and unusual subject. I'm fond of the small boats, from any era,
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As I said........ 'using a paragraph quote or image to illustrate a point is not illegal. Reproducing a complete book is.' So, I think that fits comfortably with your above comment, Mark. I just felt I had to wade in, as several posts have recently given 'knee jerk' reactions to poorly perceived copyright issues. Just because a book (for example) is protected by copyright legislation, doesn't mean limited material can't be used to elaborate a point. Of course, it is common courtesy to give proper reference to the source. Thank you for your forbearance.
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I know things are different in different places......sections of books, periodicals, music or films can be used for educational, study and 'free use' (whatever the phrase is.) While I accept, respect and support copyright rules for what they are intended; ie preventing commercial exploitation of others property and intellectual rights; using a paragraph quote or image to illustrate a point is not illegal. Reproducing a complete book is. My bunker lid is down.
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Reducing mast circumference without a lathe
shipman replied to Charlie pal's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
'(This is covered elsewhere on this forum.)' Sorry druxey, I find that such a trite statement. OK. Take the subject and put it in the search box.........often you finish up trawling through umpteen posts and if you're lucky, you might get what you're after. Unless you can enlighten me with a better way? Right, I'm back on the naughty step. -
Late to this one. The first collection has a photograph of the junction, Hackney Road and Cambridge Heath Road. I lived just a stone's throw from there for 10 years, yet I found it unrecognisable. So much of that area was flattened during the WW2 blitz.
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Ship's launch kits for 18th century ships - 1/60 or 1/64
shipman replied to peterbrowne's topic in Wood ship model kits
Often ships boats are covered in paint, so I don't see why vac-forming them won't do nicely. There are cunning ways to paint such things to look like convincing wood. -
Just a thought.......if you're worried about pencil graphite smudging. Alight pass with a soft eraser may help. One of the first items we were asked to provide in our first tech drawing class was fresh home made white bread, kneaded into a ball. Turned out to be the best eraser of all.
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An erudite and practical view of this topic, Bob. Watch YouTube vids of boatbuilders at work. Craftsmen share a lifetime's experience, confirming your comments.
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