popeye the sailor

congratz........really nice looking model    I haven't started mine yet either.........

band saw did work better though    the whole frame is going to need reinforcement.   cutting the keel isn't a bad thing......actually the added thickness there {and in other places}  might be a plus.  you got 'em all cut out......that puts me still slightly ahead of you.  the build slip is you next step.

yepper........seems to be the rule with this kit.   whether or not they will need to be slotted at the keel.......only your build slip will know for sure    #1 does.......found that much out.   as for that planking......sounds like a bit more work,  although 3 to 4 mm should put the deck planking to scale.  sanding may take some of the color out of it for ya.......likely got that color with age.  if it's really is pine,  than likely it's the pitch.

I should wait,  but I have to let glue dry for the moment,  so I have time to kill.  I'm not really pleased with the new scroll saw.........there is a plastic plug that acts as a collar where the blade is.  darn thing isn't flush with the table......needs around 1/32 or so.  I'm gonna make one out of wood to replace it.   likely this is the reason behind the chipping issue.  another issue is that I don't have it on a stable table....just a board on top of milk crates

   I have a shelf {cabinet} that I made a while ago.......I use it now to store my junk box and assorted stuff,  out in the hallway.  it's big enough to lay on it's side.....I can still use it as a junk bin holder,  and has enough surface space that I can actually fasten the saw to it,  to hold it in place {future task}.  it works fine for a while,  but when the board goes off center with the milk crates,  it tend to vibrate more....that's when the scroll saw starts to walk.  but at any rate.......the cutting is done for the most part  

I even got the second keel cut......

I did some of the squaring up.....cleaning up the keel part.......now all we need is a build slip.   I knew I had the old one still around ......I set up a couple slips on it.......one might work .   I can't use the spare one I made,  from the odd parts I got when BB closed down on Wisconsin........the slot is too wide for the keel too  

...and I can't use the one I bought,  'cuz it's in use right now.......

.......slots are too wide on that one too............still can't find the old one.......I guess I'll have to make one for it.   taking my old board,  to build balsa airplanes on,  two lengths of 1/8 strip was laid down.   a piece of the plywood was used for the spacing.  at one end,  a plug was fitted in,  closing off the slot.

the plug will act as a stop........but I really didn't need to do it,  because to keep the keel vertically straight,  I added a wide stop and braced it with a wedge {the wedge could have filled the slot just as effectively}.

next time....think before I act......will me?!?!???

I did have to laugh.......as I pulled them apart,  the outer layer came off with it in places........re-laminate them.........sure why not!!   perhaps I can get a second hull out of this.....ka-ching!  

 I can actually FEEL the gears turning 

thanks gents.......one more cut out  ....three more to go.   I'll have to see how the bulwarks are arranged as far as height goes......some of the bulkheads have no slots at the keel end.   I may also trace out and cut another keel,  in case there's a problem >evil grin<   sure J........the list doesn't have any quantity though.   I think this is the wood your talking about

I think this is pine......lovely grain.   I think I'll use it for the deck of the Progress....unstained and sealed,  I think it will look really nice.  see those parts to the right in the second picture.......feels like leather or textured plastic?

    they are for the cabin roof and the skylight.......probably won't use it either.  here is the parts list in the booklet:

just so you don't need to squint........

I was going to mention last night that I sent a PM {on the ETSY site} to Kal,  the person that was selling the kit.   I let him know what's going on........it was of no fault of his......and that I expected to see some anomaly with the kit.  I asked him the age of the kit.......earlier he mentioned that it had been in his family for a long time.   his mother used to work at a shop and she bought it for the father about 50 years ago.  it remained untouched all this time.  he didn't mention,  but I sense that one or both of his parents has passed on.  I let him know what I was doing....he's still gonna get a five star review from me.  I can't complain........old kits like this are a 50 / 50 kind of thing........good kit / bad kit.  I've had such good luck with these kits in the past.......sad not to try and resurrect this one.

well....as of a couple of moments ago,  all ten bulkheads are cut out.  I still need to clean them up.  I will trace out the keel and use it instead of the one supplied........might as well work with all fresh wood  

I was under the impression that they were used as a form of braking ie.....air brake,  dive brake.   in the model of the Memphis Belle,  there is more detail to them....brackets and such.  there is nothing for this model however, although there is molded detail.   they are cemented in the retracted position.....can't do much about it now.

old news....seen the bio  

impressive job!  the Padre will be pleased  

hey there........I see you found the hanger alright     love a good biplane build!

very nice start Craig........I love big birds.    

I have more progress to report on the Wulfe Hound.   I did a little paint and some assembly.....mainly the wings.   first was to assemble the aileron halves together for the wings and stabilizer.  no sense keeping them apart any longer. 

then to paint the deice panels......on the top halves,  I think I used the wrong paint.........or the black had not cured enough and became solvent.  in any case,  I need to fix it.   the nacelle cowls were a bit pesky too...I tried to do the two color paint,  and apparently,  the white ensign paint would rather be airbrushed....came out a bit ghostly.

the bottom halves came out alright,  but some bleed did occur.  thinner did help in removing most of the problem.  I also added the landing gear,  which will be in the down position,  as if it's taking off {flaps up}

don't know what those two slots are between the nacelles...nothing seems to go there..  there more to be painted yet.  I did this yesterday.....today, I decided to assemble the wings.  the ailerons were cemented in place.....I won't have them movable.  on the Nine o Nine,  they keep dropping like the plane's gonna nose dive....not very appealing  

first one done......

the ailerons have that faded coloration........you can see what I mean about the cowls.  the second one,  shown on the belly side,  shows the flap in the up position.  in the down position,  they would put drag on the wings, slowing the plane down for a landing.

other than the cowl ghosting,  I like how they came out.  as mentioned.....still more to be done on the wings.  I'm dying to decal them  

at the stern, the planks will meet on top of the keel stem.  usually,  Billing will supply rabbits for the stems....surprised that there aren't any for the bow,  in this case.   to make it easier to plank,  Billings supplies a curved piece that would fit over the stern area.   it would likely end where you inserted the balsa,  but leaving enough of a bulkhead lip,  that the planking can terminate on it.   it is possible that you can scratch make one of these parts.

for an example of this.....here is what I did on my build of the Progress.   very easy to make:

offer is still good anytime.....if you need something check with me and I'll take a look  

popping in for a looky too.........she is looking swell......very nice job thus far  

none what so ever.......although that thin grainy looking stuff might be pine.  if you'd like to go along with some narrower planking,  let me know.   I think I have enough to share  

hmmmmm,  I think women were bad luck on these ships.  captain's choice though  

1867 is a long ways off from 1807 / 1808.   keep in mind that the southern states were still active in the keeping of slaves even during the war.  I'm sure there is some convoluted information out there....wouldn't be the internet we know and love without it    even on paper.......can't believe everything you read.  I know J posted pictures of the instructions...I hope you can read it

this is a small booklet tha came with the kit.   here is the complete building text......

that's it folks........not much to go on,  although it does give some of the part numbers.....especially the wood strips.   I should look to see if I can find a chart relating to dowel diameter...so far I only know of fractional diameters.  here is the two sided sheet with the side profiles,  layouts,  and assembly suggestions. 

I forgot the rigging diagram too.........it gives the appearance that there confusion between a brig and a schooner.  there are at least three different configurations that would suit this vessel....and as Lou pointed out,  a Ketch.  the planking diagram suggests........what your seeing here is double planking above the waterline.   if I were to do that,  I'd use thin strip.....narrower than what is supplied in the kit.   there's a small bundle of 5 mm,  a larger bundle of 10 mm,  and an equal bundle of thin strip that is 8 mm { looks like pine but can't be sure}.   I have other stuff on hand

the lines at the bottom are the lengths for the masts and yards.  there is a diagram for a capstan......but I think a windlass would be more appropriate.......what is that thing off to the bottom right?  not real keen on the tops either,  since they are die cut on the plywood sheet,  along with the channels.  as said.........I'll sweat over the hull and then scratch build the rest. 

the bulkhead replacements continues........I now have 6 out of the 10 bulkheads cut.  a couple of them,  I had to peel off the affected layer and re-laminate it with 1/16......1/32 would have been a better choice,  but I'm using what I have on hand.  as can be seen on the front side of the big sheet,  the frame is going to be flimsy.   it will need to be a bit more stable for the faring process.   so the bulkheads were spot glued to the new plywood,  which I had cut into wide strips.  once it has set long enough,  I will cut them out.......the glue if not totally dried,  should release rather easily.

number 7 and nine had to be re-laminated to do the cutting process properly.......here's #9

it will be clamped so it will be flat and level.  then I'll trim it and it will be ready for the cloning 

I've got something.........some of the strips are warped.   I have some narrower stuff on hand...likely just use it instead.  I was going to try the coping saw too.......with what I experienced,  I thought better of it.

"who's on first?"  yes OC.....you knocked one out of the park!  the figure looks super  

here we are........I'll bet your syked to see this one built    there is a thread....I think back in 2016 that asks about Steingraeber kits.......I think the gentleman had another vessel he was building.   I think the blonde plywood will be a plus for you......and using a band saw might even be a better choice of weapon.  some of my planking is a bit warped........and I can't understand why it's so wide.  I would think narrower strips would define the contours better.  I wish you good luck with the build.......I know I'm gonna need it.   ......not for the faint of heart.......you weren't kidding about the instructions 

hello everyone    welcome to the log that looks like a kit,  but builds like a scratch build    personally,  I think they packed too much fun in this box    hey......but we'll get through this and then it may flow a bit better.

  as an update to my idea....it looks like it's gonna work.  it will take some extra time and effort,  but I think it will be worth it in the end.

thanks John........see,  I told you I'd get back to wooden ships    I write this log as an example of the folks we have here........how we care about one another.  I saw the kit........I thought of J......and here we are.

I believe that's 'soaps' J      in 'the Days of our Lives',  we enter 'The Secret Storm',  so we can add another to 'All my Children' {I was careful J....I didn't mention 'The Wonder Years'}.  we discussed the links......I will add yours to mine.......there....we will be blood brothers {as long as we don't slip with the x Actor}.  as mentioned,  you have the blonde plywood,  which suggests to me that your kit is a bit younger...there's no dating on the box that I've seen thus far.   doing this in the direction I'm having to go might spawn twins ........the Clotilda might be a result after all 

Tom and Ed....hello and welcome to the log  

right Mark.......slaving ran until 1867....of course it's not to say that a trickle of 'Human Trafficking' didn't carry on afterwards {as we've seen in today's world}.  keen to remember that some slaves were assembled to form army units during the conflict.  sadly,  they were used as decoys and front row forces.  there  have been a few books and movies on the subject.  it really didn't start to lose it's appeal,  when the British {and I believe the French} made it illegal in 1807.....we followed a year later.

yes Lou......they found it to be more lucrative than hauling goods,  especially when the markets were low.  at the high point in the slaving trade,  the more boisterous ones were even using 'tramp' steamers to import slaves.

   I did find that the Captains sacrificed a lot of weight,  for the ability to carry more slaves,  countering their losses along the way.   most were alone,  without a crew until they got to their destination.  there they picked up the slaves,  provisions,  and a large enough crew to defend the ship,  the duties involved,  and discourage any uprisings by the slaves.  there were a few of these....the incident on The Meermin for instance.

I got busy yesterday and didn't get much further.......so far,  I have three or four cut out.  I will get more done today  

can you remove the toothpicks and slide the gears in place?  can you disassemble and then reassemble using glue {on the non movable parts}?

did ya hear about the new movie coming out?

it's called The Great Train Rubbery   ba da boom, ba da bing!  

ya gotta laugh when things happen.........this will have to do,'cuz I can't tickle ya with a feather   

many died on the trip.......alarming to know that if a ship encountered a storm,  if they lost the 'cargo',  they'd still get paid.  if they came in with half,  it was considered a good haul.

my condolences good buddy    

welcome to the log Tom and Mike