Old Collingwood

1 hour ago, popeye the sailor said:

nose cones and glass like that I try to cut around the edge,  lightly scraping afterwards.  sanding always leave the white ring where ya did it.  what you did is good,  but isn't that going to give a slight rise when painted?  you want to be careful around the cockpit......the tape looks like it's lifting {happens to me too....I have to be vigilant}.    I also have been known to use scotch tape...clear or the clouded stuff to hide mating lines.......it's a bit thinner than paper...fingers crossed it doesn't swell on you 🎨

There is  a few layers  of tape on there  denis  so fingers crossed  (I will  press it down again though before spraying)   hopefully  the paper ring around the nose  will  not be too noticable  when its painted  as it is quite thin  I think it just stands out  with the lighting  kind of causing a shadow  (oh  and its white).  Any one asks  though  - its  battle damage  repair  to strengthen the nose.

OC.

Good day all,

Firstly  a Big thank you  for all the likes and comments,

Right,   another good day  -  I had a go  at  hiding the difference between the nose glazing unit and the  fuselage,  I cut  a  narrow strip of paper about 2mm  wide then using watery pva I  stuck it down following the nose glazing, then I joined it underneath and trimmed it.    I sealed it using a bit of top coat,  next  I  painted  the cockpit canopy frame  with a couple of coats of top coat,   then put it aside to dry.

I then packed inside the bomb bay  and entrance hatch  with tissue paper  - and  covered the  rear wheel  with tape.

When the main canopy  was dry  I glued it  in place.

So the fuselage is now ready  for its first spray of Tamiya surface primer  - just need to wait for a  dry day  as all  spraying  has to be done out doors.

OC.

6 hours ago, SigEp Ziggy said:

Coming along nicely.

Thank you kindly.

OC.

1 minute ago, mtaylor said:

I'm not at this point as I have checked the fit as yet.   Besides it's "Bashing" for everyone else, for me it's "Butchering".  

That brings visions to my mind  like in Toy Story  with the mutilated  toys.😧

OC.

I was wondering  (as you do)   with the circumference difference  between the glazed nose cone and the front part of the fuselage, I wonder if a thin/narrow piece of paper wrapped around the fuselage would work as a "stepper"  it could simulate a riveting band.

Like this  inside the white line  - 

OC.

These are the clear parts  showing the main canopy  and  the four  side units.

Pic of the net  not mine.

OC.

4 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

really nice progress OC........did you use window maker to assemble the canopy?  I've done canopys before by hand and really stunk at it......most of the time I don't do them.  we'll see what happens with my next project.  did you have to add the bubbles on the sides?  those will be tough to mask.

I just held it between my fingers  (very carefully)   as it was very fragile  - then I added a line of ca  to the main part  where the smaller  bubble section  was to go  then  as best as I could I attempted to  glue it in place,  I must have tried it about five times  each side   before it would stay in place, then I ran a fine line of ca  using a  fuse wire  tip  to  catch the other sides  of the small part, then I  did the same on the other side.

My heart was jumping out my chest as I was doing it  - so so so fiddly.

OC.

2 minutes ago, CDW said:

Are the "bubble" portions on each side of the canopy the separate pieces you write about? Your canopy came out nice I think. I can see why those features were molded separately, as the only other way would have maybe been a slide mold. From what I've read, a slide mold is a very expensive item to tool. They were probably concentrating on keeping the cost of the kit down to a level that would make it available to many modeler's budget. If my Tamiya 1:32 Mossie wasn't buried in such a deep pile of models, I would drag it out to see how the canopy is molded in that kit.

Yeah  in the kit  on the clear  parts  there are  two options  flat or bubble, these are four  separate parts, I went for the bubble  as I think  it was more  highly used on  the  B IV  model.

Just would have been better if the assemblies  were complete  wit two canopy options  for  bubble of flat.

OC.

8 minutes ago, Javlin said:

One of the biggest PIA's when building planes but yours will do . Kevin

Tell me about it  - that canopy  is a serious  poor point  in the kit  - should be all in one.

OC.

"Masking Time"    Talk about fiddly difficult job............the problem is  the masks are the same colour as the backing sheet  making it real hard to see the edges  let alone remove them, then lifting them is real  fiddly,   so  first thing first  was the  nose glazing unit, this  required a center oval piece  (not to difficult  as it was a good size and shape,   then there was a couple of  shaped  edges  - a bit more fiddly needing a few attempts to place them correctly.

After a bit  it was  done  so I worked out what paint was needed and  gave the frame work a few coats, this was put aside to dry  for a bit,    when dry  I glued it in place on the nose - but then discovered I should have dry fitted it  as the glazing unit is a mil or so  larger than the circumference of the nose area, to late to do anything about it now that its placed/masked and painted.

Then it was the turn of the  cockpit unit, after  cutting this from the sprew, I discovered  it has two additional  units that have to be glued to it  - put it this way   - the room is now blue from my language  and I nearly gave up, they are the most  awkward  things to do without mucking up the clear parts,   why o why  didn't  it come in one piece,   anyway  eventually  I kind of fitted them  (not as neat as I wanted)    so next trick was to start  masking   - I started with the top, nice square  piece  - then  a few  more smaller ones.

After an hour or so  it was masked  minus a  couple of places  - but as I decided to  paint it up first  by hand  with my smallest brush, then this  would be ok.

So this is where I stand at the moment  - the cockpit  unit will be glued down  but after covering the whole thing, ready  to lay the Tamiya Surface Primer  down.

OC.

7 hours ago, Canute said:

OC, good pictures and that chart. Nice.

 

Do you remember if your Dad supported the Amiens raid. The Mosis attacked a prison where French Resistance folks were held. They blew holes in the walls and a number of the French escaped. I could really appreciate the low level flying they did across a part of France that is relatively flat. Wonder what the returning Mosis looked like after that raid.

I'm not sure ken,   depends what base was  operating it  and the year it happened.

OC.

4 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Don't you know that we Marines were taught the fine art of pillaging and looting and also taking over unoccupied positions?  

 

By the way, the paint job looks great.  (gotta keep on topic here...).

Thought that was us  Pirates 

OC.

Good comparison of British WW2  Bombers.

Again pic off the net.

OC.

Just found an interesting article  in a discussion room  about the last air raid/raids on Germany  in WW2,   it has a lot of talk about my late farther  air base where he was stationed  and the squadron/s  he was  working for,    it was the attacks on Kiel  Town and Harbour   to stop the Germans from sending ships to Norway to continue the war there.

Here is the link  -

http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/the-last-bombs.4811/

And below  a photo  from that sight  possibly with my dad in there somewhere during the bases celebration of the end of the war.

All  courtesy  of the  original posters.

OC.

1 minute ago, Jack12477 said:

OC, yes I read about those storms. Europe even gave them names.  Hope you were not affected by them.

We were lucky  being kind of high up  most of the flooding happened kind of around us,   most were affected close to rivers.

OC.

10 minutes ago, Jack12477 said:

Oh the big storms keep coming, they just seem to miss my neck of the woods. Must be the mountains deflecting them or something like that; like maybe the weather people cannot calculate wind speed and direction 

We had two storms on the back of each other in ten days  over here  - massive flooding  lots of folks lost their homes.

OC.

So much work going into her  - hats off to you  phil.

OC.

I like the seats  they have come up like  beige leather.

OC.

I see what you mean mark,   fully agree with you  about the tape tiles,    the individual one does look a lot better   and look to be so much more square.

OC.

Really good start  denis,    with the wood stock   (not the uk music place)   have you tried ebay?

OC.

SO!   here's the plan  -  next I will fit  the nose glazing unit (after fitting the masks to it)   will probably dry fit it first to check for fit,   then I will check the main cabin canopy unit  - then mask that also  before  fitting,    this will leave me with a completed  fuselage  minus the rudder and stab - flaps.

The idea is  it will probably be more manageable  to hold  and  spray the first (all over coat)  with out the wings attached,  I will also  count the rudder and flaps as separate items  to paint them off the fuselage,   then after letting that to harden  - I will be able to mask up  for the first  layer of  grey camo  using the blue tak and paper/tape (i got to day).

Well thats the plan.

OC.

More progress today  -  I took the tape off both fuselage  sections and surveyed  the seams,  they were not too bad  just needed some light sanding with 1000 wet and dry,  I then turned my attention to how the two sections join  -  they lock into each other but it was very tight so the sanding stick and several dry fits and with a kind of "click"  - they joined together,  I pushed a bit of  glue into the seam  then pushed them together.

I left it for a few hours then I added a pe  fuel  cap ontop  and while at it  I even put two masks  on the lower forward  windows.

Oh!  I also added a strengthening  strip with 2mm  paper underneath the fuselage.

OC.

Looking good mark  - coming together now, same day  posting we both closed up our fuselage.

OC.

12 minutes ago, Javlin said:

Well I have been using Badger Airbrushes since I was about 12 years old with cans of ProPel and that plastic airbrush back then if you keep diving into plastics you know somewhere down the line............? Kevin

 

Then I have seen some hand painted look as good or better.

I have the Tamiya  AS Rattle Cans   to do  both camo colours and the underside, gonna get some Blue Tak  for the masking.

OC.

19 minutes ago, lmagna said:

Nice progress OC. At this rate she will be going on missions in another week or two!

Thanks Lou,   to be honest  I am dreading the  rattle can stage  - just dont want to  ruin it with shabby  spraying, I have read up and watched some videos on how to do it.

OC.