USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area

[CaptainSteve]

Fantastic work, Jay (as always) !!

Those rivets look great. I might have to put in an order to use them for the bulwark rivet detail.

Edited June 21, 2015 by CaptainSteve

[Modeler12]

Fantastic work, Jay (as always) !!

Those rivets look great. I might have to put in an order to use them for the bulwark rivet detail.

Be sure you have the time to do that. It is slow and easy. Could be done at work on a slow day, but in the long run it is worth the time (at least in my opinion).

 

Moving along with the cross section decks and my question of the day: Will it work?

 

I took the gun deck and berth deck and joined them. Below you can see that they should (dry fit with a bit of double backed tape to hold the C-knees on the berth deck).

The first picture should confuse any one, but continue with the rest and you will see how there is lots more to be added.

         

Edited June 21, 2015 by Modeler12

[mtaylor]

It very much looks like it will work, Jay.  That is one sweet bit of joinery... 

[GLakie]

What Mark said Jay!  The joinery looks great! 

[Modeler12]

Thank you fellows. This is turning into a fun project. 

I was a bit curious how those heavy riding bits would line up on the two decks, but it looks like all is well in that department.

It also gave me some ideas about the walls on the berth deck for the brig and sick-bay in the forward area. I have to admit that the doors for that may come from precast parts I received with the new rivets. It means painting which I don't like.

 

Now I can take it all apart and continue with the planking of the gun deck. However, I also have to make the platform for the oven and fit that between the aft bits. So, lots of work to be done.

But the admiral just informed me that it is father's day and I should relax, go out for lunch, etc.

[Canute]

Jay, your work is excellent. Inspiring for this tyro.

[Modeler12]

As long as I was looking at the area where the stove will go, I decided to make the platform on which the stove fits. The hearth is surrounded by a low wall covered with copper sheeting.

 

So here is what mine will look like after the decking is all in place. Until then it is all loosey-goosey.

It is a case where I will build a stove around a fire (instead of the other way around).

[mtaylor]

Interesting picture, the bottom one.  Looks like the fire is already in place and waiting for the stove.   Or it's a smallish thermonuclear weapon going off..

[Modeler12]

Interesting picture, the bottom one.  Looks like the fire is already in place and waiting for the stove.   Or it's a smallish thermonuclear weapon going off..

Not to worry, Mark.

In order for that little guy to go nuclear a lot more would have to be in place. And I am not only talking about logistics, politics, bureaucracy, and not to mention lack of 'control' by those who are supposed to have that ????

 

Please, don't get me started with this, but let me just mention that a 'fire in the hole' has nothing to do with this either.

Nothing will happen, OK?

I may get electrocuted, burned, BUT i will survive the LEDs experiment.

Wish me luck, I guess.

 

Just to add a footnote: I am not aware of any nuclear device as small as what you see sitting on my desk.

But stranger things have happened!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited June 22, 2015 by Modeler12

[mtaylor]

OH... that's an LED!!!    I'll stand down.  I believe it's past beer o'clock...

 

I hope you know I was just giving you a hard time.....       I was, though, wondering how you got that light there and thought it was a reflection.

Edited June 22, 2015 by mtaylor

[Modeler12]

OK, Mark. 

While work continues on the gun deck planking (laying, nailing, sanding, etc.), I was curious how coal on top of the fire would look like.

I have a long way to go with the stove, but I think some coal would diffuse the bright red. 

I found a piece of black lava, crushed it and will use that later inside.

[Modeler12]

I am not going to show any more pictures of my attempts to make the stove, other than the following.

It is my first try to make the drip tray (a bit wide, but that can be corrected).
The length is about 0.60 inches, compared with the wire at 0.016 inch.
 

There are a couple beautiful stoves made and published here on MSW. Both were made with brass and copper, but I am not very good with metals at this scale to do the bending, cutting, brazing, etc. 
So, perhaps the stove could be made out of the same material shown in the picture below; but time will tell

[Modeler12]

Well, let me retract that comment above. Here is a sneak preview.

It is a dry fit with lots of trimming and finish work ahead. Before all is done and the little cube is painted black, I thought you might have a peek.

Yet to come are the stove pipe with chamber on top of the triangular piece, the drip tray and then lots of corner details, spit rods, etc.

[CaptainSteve]

Sure hope that stove is ready by the time Thanksgiving rolls around ...

[Modeler12]

Sure hope that stove is ready by the time Thanksgiving rolls around ...

I'll finish the stove, Steve. You find a turkey small enough to cook on it.

But the stove will not have that rotating contraption that will not work.

Edited June 25, 2015 by Modeler12

[Modeler12]

More work to be done, but I did not want to wait with painting the inside black. I might not get to it with spits and grills in front.

Of course, give me a paint brush and I won't quit, so the outside got its first coat (which I will rub and probably do again).

I still have to make the lids for the boiling pots and lots of other goodies in front.

 

Thanks George for the pictures of the Connie. I had seen most of them but not the one showing the back side of the stove. I am sure this was a very busy area with the kitchen crew feeding a couple hundred sailors. I think I might add some barrels and crates here.

BTW this little cube is about 1/2 inch and the little trim strips are styrene 0.010 x 0.020 inch.

[keelhauled]

Looking awesome!  I love the coals with the fire!  

[lambsbk]

The coals really are very cool. In regards to a tray, I used a brass square tube and shaped it into a rectangle then solderd it. I placed a shaped peice of brass sheet and soldered it to the top of that and then blackened them. The sheet is very thin and blackening can and almost did destroy it. Once rinsed and dried I sealed it with flat clear enamel. Then lastly I applied the copper sheeting on the edges with copper tape followed by another coat of clear spray.

 

The result is on page 11 and 13 of my build.  (http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/444-uss-constitution-by-lambsbk-%E2%80%93-revell-%E2%80%93-plastic-%E2%80%93-196-with-fiber-optics/page-11)

Edited June 25, 2015 by lambsbk

[Modeler12]

Looking awesome!  I love the coals with the fire!  

Thanks.

The stove (as I call it ) will be fitted around the coals shortly. But my first attempt to make pots and pans failed badly and I may have to short change that. My fingers are just not steady any more. But perhaps the red glow and coals will help. 

 

[Modeler12]

The coals really are very cool. In regards to a tray, I used a brass square tube and shaped it into a rectangle then solderd it. I placed a shaped peice of brass sheet and soldered it to the top of that and then blackened them. The sheet is very thin and blackening can and almost did destroy it. Once rinsed and dried I sealed it with flat clear enamel. Then lastly I applied the copper sheeting on the edges with copper tape followed by another coat of clear spray.

 

The result is on page 11 and 13 of my build.  (http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/444-uss-constitution-by-lambsbk-%E2%80%93-revell-%E2%80%93-plastic-%E2%80%93-196-with-fiber-optics/page-11)

That looks good, indeed, Dave. My first attempt to make the drip tray was ok, but the wrong size. I noticed yours has rounded corners and that looks good also. I might try that. Thus far I like working with styrene. I have done some silver soldering of brass and copper (and blackened that), but for this stove I have more options using the styrene sheets and shapes. They come in a wide variety and if I had to start the oven again I might look into using styrene angle pieces for the corners. 

[Modeler12]

   

It's a good thing that I tried this because it would have been difficult to install the LED and coal with the front blocked with spits etc. Now my plan is to assemble the stove and base with coal as one unit before I go any further.

[Fam]

Wow, that's fantastic!!

[mtaylor]

Sweet... when's dinner?   Salt beef or salt pork today?  The stove is looking seriously good.

[GLakie]

What Mark said Jay!   Looks pretty life-like! 

[Modeler12]

Thank you guys. It is amazing what those little lights can do.

Now I am curious about other places and am thinking some nano LEDs in places such as the sail room (orlop deck) and couple lanterns on the berth deck. Then I have to tie them all together and have them come through the keel.

[CaptainSteve]

I can only echo what the others are saying, Jay. Your stove looks excellent.

Just be sure you don't burn your fingers working on the rest of it.

(I'm still working on those tiny turkeys)

Edited June 27, 2015 by CaptainSteve

[Modeler12]

Steve, I don't need no tiny turkeys no longer.

 

I am going to barbeque some pork ribs tonight and will be using a grill (not a rotiserie; by now I am so tired of that word that I forgot how to spell it).

 

To be honest, I am surprised about all the nice comments and thumb-ups I have been getting. The admiral will have something to say about that when we devour another rib or two.

Right now it is back to making piles of coal.

 

Edited June 26, 2015 by Modeler12

[keelhauled]

Jay,

that is by far the best lighting effect that I've ever seen in a ship model.  Incredible!!!.  

It looks amazing - very life like.  Hard to believe it isn't photo shop!

Keep it up!

Marc

[Modeler12]

Marc, that is by far the nicest comment I have received yet (well, it ranks pretty high).

 

I am having fun, and that counts. Adding LEDs has been in my book for a few years and this time I decided to go for it. 

I must agree that the stove and coals make it look a lot better than a light hidden behind a wall.
But I may still resort to that later on in other areas.

 

Right now I am still pondering the question about making some pots and pans to scale with my clumsy fingers.

I'll come up with something, I hope!!???!!!

 

Oh, here are a couple more additions to the stove. I know, it is a lot less impressive without the light and the exhaust pipe needs some straightening. Those are things I don't see unless I take pictures.

 

[cwboland]

Great job on the stove Jay. I would suggest trying to use a mini lathe to turn some pots out of either brass or wood, if you have access to one. It wouldn't take much to add a handle to some of the smaller pots afterwards.