dgbot Posted August 1, 2015 #151 Posted August 1, 2015 Jesse, tree nails are fine if they are subdued and you have to look for them. Too many people accent them and as a result they stand out causing the maritime measles effect. David B Piet, maddog33, GaryKap and 3 others 5 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
JesseLee Posted August 1, 2015 Author #152 Posted August 1, 2015 Made a stand. Tried to make it look like timbers used in dry dock. George, It will be copper plated so no more tree nails till the deck Piet, cog, UpstateNY and 12 others 15 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
dgbot Posted August 1, 2015 #153 Posted August 1, 2015 Nice planking job. I never tree nail because I thought they stood out to much . I have seen them done using a piece of tubing with the end sharpened this made a nice effect. David B BETAQDAVE, GLakie, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
mrangus Posted August 2, 2015 #154 Posted August 2, 2015 Planking looks great Jesse! looks like you got through that quickly once you got beyond gunports and treenailed area. This boat must feel BIG after the SM... GLakie, Canute and Salty Sea Dog 3 Quote
JesseLee Posted August 2, 2015 Author #155 Posted August 2, 2015 Thanks Robb. Yes she is a bit bigger! David, I might actually use that method on the deck. GLakie, maddog33 and Canute 3 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
SGraham Posted August 2, 2015 #156 Posted August 2, 2015 Great stand, Jesse! I love the weathered timber look. They remind me of a barn beam I have a post drill hanging on. Steve Piet, Salty Sea Dog, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh."
dgbot Posted August 2, 2015 #157 Posted August 2, 2015 Jesse what the tubing does is give you a crucial outline. On a ship the tree nail woul be covered with a plug to cover it. The plug woul lay with the grain of the plank.. David B Canute, JesseLee, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
_SalD_ Posted August 2, 2015 #158 Posted August 2, 2015 Planking came out nice Jesse. I noticed one thing in the second picture you might want to check. From the picture it appears that the stem knee isn't tapered as described in chapter one. It needs to be tapered to fit the figurehead. GLakie, Piet and Canute 3 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways
JesseLee Posted August 2, 2015 Author #159 Posted August 2, 2015 I have tapered it- maybe it needs to be done some more? GLakie and Canute 2 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
ioannis Posted August 2, 2015 #160 Posted August 2, 2015 very nice jesse. You did well with planking ,I could say stern and bow beautifully as the wives rear mtaylor, GLakie, JesseLee and 1 other 4 Quote
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author #161 Posted August 4, 2015 Some how I missed a crack in the transom. It showed up when I sanded it. My 1st idea was to file a wedge where the line is & glue a piece of wood in the wedge. When I sanded it now 2 lines showed. I had some thin planks left from other builds so I decided to plank over the transom. It worked well. The bad place at the top is ok because it will be covered by another piece of wood later. (the last 2 photos keep loading in reverse order) Charley54, SGraham, UpstateNY and 16 others 19 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
rtropp Posted August 4, 2015 #162 Posted August 4, 2015 great fix, Richard mtaylor, Piet, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren
GLakie Posted August 4, 2015 #163 Posted August 4, 2015 Sorry about the discovery of a hidden crack Jesse, but it seems like you've found an acceptable fix that should look nice. I was thinking maybe some home-made wood filler, from some really fine sanding dust and stainable PVA, may have worked as well. Cheers Salty Sea Dog, Piet, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
dgbot Posted August 4, 2015 #164 Posted August 4, 2015 Nice save. David B SGraham, Canute and GLakie 3 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author #165 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the kind words & all the likes. This is a great group of people here at MSW! The instructions say to add the extra layers of wales & sheer strakes earlier & paint them afterwards. I pre-painted mine because I knew I would make a mess of it trying to keep a good straight line between the painted area & the stained area. Rigged up a simple jig to mark the waterline & painted all the areas that are black. I did use some wood filler on the hull planking to fill in some minor dips & cracks that will be covered with the copper plating. Edited August 4, 2015 by JesseLee Charley54, maddog33, _SalD_ and 19 others 22 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
GaryKap Posted August 4, 2015 #166 Posted August 4, 2015 Great idea for a pencil holder to mark the waterline. I will have to remember and use your method in the future. I had just relied on stacks of books; testing until I had the correct elevation. Your invention is much more elegant! <<Gary>> GLakie, mtaylor, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote current build: SYREN nearly done: Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham future builds: Emma C. Berry completed builds: Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author #167 Posted August 4, 2015 Thanks Gary. The hard part is getting the hole the right height. It took several tries & more than one old spice container before I got it right. mtaylor, Salty Sea Dog, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
augie Posted August 4, 2015 #168 Posted August 4, 2015 I usually use a tomato can. But your results are equally good GLakie, Piet, Dubz and 4 others 7 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
GLakie Posted August 4, 2015 #169 Posted August 4, 2015 Very nice Jesse! Salty Sea Dog, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
clearway Posted August 4, 2015 #170 Posted August 4, 2015 I use the block of wood with a pencil taped on top- however i will deffo try this one in future . I did read somewhere once that on these earlier period ships the waterline followed the wales and straight waterlines we know it is a later invention. Keith mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author #171 Posted August 4, 2015 Keith, I wondered about that but the kit instructions show it straight so I went along with it, still wondering........ clearway, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
clearway Posted August 4, 2015 #172 Posted August 4, 2015 i think it was perpetuated by the copper bottoms on ships being relatively straight- i am also building the panart uss lynx and have done a straight waterline on that- its a hard habit to break! Lovely job so far by the way keep it up. Keith JesseLee, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote
Salty Sea Dog Posted August 5, 2015 #173 Posted August 5, 2015 Just catching up again. I really like the timber base. If you are going to make more trenails, a very cool trick I learned from JPett is to chuck a toothpick in your Dremel and run it through progressively smaller holes in a draw plate. This is really fast and you can get really long super tiny dowels. You won't have to taper each one on sandpaper. Really nice work you've done lately! JesseLee, GLakie and Canute 3 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...
Jimz66 Posted August 5, 2015 #174 Posted August 5, 2015 Looks great Jesse. GLakie and JesseLee 2 Quote Current/But Not immediate Build Logs I am still gathering the tools I need but starting preliminary work. Nothing to show just yet. Fair American Armed Virginia Sloop.
_SalD_ Posted August 5, 2015 #175 Posted August 5, 2015 Nice job on the wales Jesse. I like the waterline marker too, I was thinking you might be able to use the container upside down so you can make some adjustments to the height by unscrewing the lid, then tape the lid in place so it doesn't rotate any further. Just a thought. GaryKap, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways
popeye the sailor Posted August 5, 2015 #176 Posted August 5, 2015 getting caught up Jesse...........very nice progress! the hull planking looks very nice! JesseLee and GLakie 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Gundorph Posted August 5, 2015 #177 Posted August 5, 2015 Looks Superb... GLakie and JesseLee 2 Quote Current Build: U.S. Brig Syren
mrangus Posted August 7, 2015 #178 Posted August 7, 2015 Just got caught up Jesse. Painting scares me - you do a nice job of it. Looks great... JesseLee and GLakie 2 Quote
JesseLee Posted August 8, 2015 Author #179 Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the likes & comments. Sal, I looked at the stem knee. I had started tapering it late one night. The next day I thought I had finished but had not. Thanks for catching that for me. Edited August 8, 2015 by JesseLee _SalD_, maddog33, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
JesseLee Posted August 8, 2015 Author #180 Posted August 8, 2015 Planked inboard stern Piet, UpstateNY, dgbot and 12 others 15 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
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