dgbot Posted August 1, 2015 Share #151 Posted August 1, 2015 Jesse, tree nails are fine if they are subdued and you have to look for them. Too many people accent them and as a result they stand out causing the maritime measles effect. David B GaryKap, Pogy647, maddog33 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share #152 Posted August 1, 2015 Made a stand. Tried to make it look like timbers used in dry dock. George, It will be copper plated so no more tree nails till the deck cog, mtaylor, GLakie and 12 others 15 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 1, 2015 Share #153 Posted August 1, 2015 Nice planking job. I never tree nail because I thought they stood out to much . I have seen them done using a piece of tubing with the end sharpened this made a nice effect. David B BETAQDAVE, mtaylor, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrangus Posted August 2, 2015 Share #154 Posted August 2, 2015 Planking looks great Jesse! looks like you got through that quickly once you got beyond gunports and treenailed area. This boat must feel BIG after the SM... Canute, Salty Sea Dog and GLakie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 2, 2015 Author Share #155 Posted August 2, 2015 Thanks Robb. Yes she is a bit bigger! David, I might actually use that method on the deck. maddog33, Canute and GLakie 3 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted August 2, 2015 Share #156 Posted August 2, 2015 Great stand, Jesse! I love the weathered timber look. They remind me of a barn beam I have a post drill hanging on. Steve Salty Sea Dog, Canute, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 2, 2015 Share #157 Posted August 2, 2015 Jesse what the tubing does is give you a crucial outline. On a ship the tree nail woul be covered with a plug to cover it. The plug woul lay with the grain of the plank.. David B Canute, Piet, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SalD_ Posted August 2, 2015 Share #158 Posted August 2, 2015 Planking came out nice Jesse. I noticed one thing in the second picture you might want to check. From the picture it appears that the stem knee isn't tapered as described in chapter one. It needs to be tapered to fit the figurehead. Piet, Canute and GLakie 3 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 2, 2015 Author Share #159 Posted August 2, 2015 I have tapered it- maybe it needs to be done some more? Canute and GLakie 2 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioannis Posted August 2, 2015 Share #160 Posted August 2, 2015 very nice jesse. You did well with planking ,I could say stern and bow beautifully as the wives rear mtaylor, GLakie, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share #161 Posted August 4, 2015 Some how I missed a crack in the transom. It showed up when I sanded it. My 1st idea was to file a wedge where the line is & glue a piece of wood in the wedge. When I sanded it now 2 lines showed. I had some thin planks left from other builds so I decided to plank over the transom. It worked well. The bad place at the top is ok because it will be covered by another piece of wood later. (the last 2 photos keep loading in reverse order) Salty Sea Dog, UpstateNY, Canute and 16 others 19 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtropp Posted August 4, 2015 Share #162 Posted August 4, 2015 great fix, Richard GLakie, Canute, Salty Sea Dog and 2 others 5 Quote RichardMember: The Nautical Research Guild Atlanta Model Shipwrights Current build: Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted August 4, 2015 Share #163 Posted August 4, 2015 Sorry about the discovery of a hidden crack Jesse, but it seems like you've found an acceptable fix that should look nice. I was thinking maybe some home-made wood filler, from some really fine sanding dust and stainable PVA, may have worked as well. Cheers Salty Sea Dog, edmay, SGraham and 4 others 7 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted August 4, 2015 Share #164 Posted August 4, 2015 Nice save. David B Canute, SGraham and GLakie 3 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share #165 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the kind words & all the likes. This is a great group of people here at MSW! The instructions say to add the extra layers of wales & sheer strakes earlier & paint them afterwards. I pre-painted mine because I knew I would make a mess of it trying to keep a good straight line between the painted area & the stained area. Rigged up a simple jig to mark the waterline & painted all the areas that are black. I did use some wood filler on the hull planking to fill in some minor dips & cracks that will be covered with the copper plating. Edited August 4, 2015 by JesseLee gjdale, Canute, cog and 19 others 22 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryKap Posted August 4, 2015 Share #166 Posted August 4, 2015 Great idea for a pencil holder to mark the waterline. I will have to remember and use your method in the future. I had just relied on stacks of books; testing until I had the correct elevation. Your invention is much more elegant! <<Gary>> GLakie, Landlubber Mike, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote current build: SYREN nearly done: Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham future builds: Emma C. Berry completed builds: Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share #167 Posted August 4, 2015 Thanks Gary. The hard part is getting the hole the right height. It took several tries & more than one old spice container before I got it right. GLakie, clearway, Salty Sea Dog and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted August 4, 2015 Share #168 Posted August 4, 2015 I usually use a tomato can. But your results are equally good Canute, GLakie, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted August 4, 2015 Share #169 Posted August 4, 2015 Very nice Jesse! Salty Sea Dog, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted August 4, 2015 Share #170 Posted August 4, 2015 I use the block of wood with a pencil taped on top- however i will deffo try this one in future . I did read somewhere once that on these earlier period ships the waterline followed the wales and straight waterlines we know it is a later invention. Keith GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share #171 Posted August 4, 2015 Keith, I wondered about that but the kit instructions show it straight so I went along with it, still wondering........ Canute, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted August 4, 2015 Share #172 Posted August 4, 2015 i think it was perpetuated by the copper bottoms on ships being relatively straight- i am also building the panart uss lynx and have done a straight waterline on that- its a hard habit to break! Lovely job so far by the way keep it up. Keith GLakie, JesseLee, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted August 5, 2015 Share #173 Posted August 5, 2015 Just catching up again. I really like the timber base. If you are going to make more trenails, a very cool trick I learned from JPett is to chuck a toothpick in your Dremel and run it through progressively smaller holes in a draw plate. This is really fast and you can get really long super tiny dowels. You won't have to taper each one on sandpaper. Really nice work you've done lately! Canute, GLakie and JesseLee 3 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimz66 Posted August 5, 2015 Share #174 Posted August 5, 2015 Looks great Jesse. JesseLee and GLakie 2 Quote Current/But Not immediate Build Logs I am still gathering the tools I need but starting preliminary work. Nothing to show just yet. Fair American Armed Virginia Sloop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SalD_ Posted August 5, 2015 Share #175 Posted August 5, 2015 Nice job on the wales Jesse. I like the waterline marker too, I was thinking you might be able to use the container upside down so you can make some adjustments to the height by unscrewing the lid, then tape the lid in place so it doesn't rotate any further. Just a thought. mtaylor, GLakie, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Sal Nautical Research Guild Current USCG Harriet Lane - Model Shipways Complete U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways New York Pilot Boat 'Phantom' 1868 - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted August 5, 2015 Share #176 Posted August 5, 2015 getting caught up Jesse...........very nice progress! the hull planking looks very nice! JesseLee and GLakie 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundorph Posted August 5, 2015 Share #177 Posted August 5, 2015 Looks Superb... GLakie and JesseLee 2 Quote Current Build: U.S. Brig Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrangus Posted August 7, 2015 Share #178 Posted August 7, 2015 Just got caught up Jesse. Painting scares me - you do a nice job of it. Looks great... JesseLee and GLakie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share #179 Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the likes & comments. Sal, I looked at the stem knee. I had started tapering it late one night. The next day I thought I had finished but had not. Thanks for catching that for me. Edited August 8, 2015 by JesseLee Canute, GLakie, maddog33 and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share #180 Posted August 8, 2015 Planked inboard stern mtaylor, Salty Sea Dog, GLakie and 12 others 15 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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