mikegerber Posted August 31, 2015 Share #31 Posted August 31, 2015 Hi Timmo You're doing a great job - looks really good! I like the clean processed raw build. One question: Do you applied soft soldering or hard soldering method for the hinges? Look forward to your further posts ... Best regards! Mike Omega1234 1 Quote current scratch build 1:15 Colin Archer - RS14 "Stavanger" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted September 1, 2015 Hi mike. It's soft solder on those joints. mtaylor, mikegerber and Omega1234 3 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegerber Posted September 4, 2015 Share #33 Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Hi Timmo I am by far no expert in soldering technology. Anyway, I had some fear to soft solder the hinges for a function model. Maybe you like to check hard soldering with silver solder - it is not that difficult ... 1. Degreasing of parts 2. Flux on it 3. Some silver solder pieces to 4. Flame on it 5. Done All the best, look forward to future posts ... Regards, Mike Edited September 4, 2015 by mikegerber mtaylor, Canute and Omega1234 3 Quote current scratch build 1:15 Colin Archer - RS14 "Stavanger" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share #34 Posted September 7, 2015 Thanks mike. Full rudder installation is a long way off so I might revisit it. I tested one with a bit of pressure and it took quite some force to snap the joint so I figured with the load spread across five pintles it should be ok. mtaylor, mikegerber, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share #35 Posted October 10, 2015 The bulwarks are now fully planked, giving the shape of the completed hull. The first 'mechanical' piece has also been added in the form of a brass tube to carry the tackle for the spanner boom. It exits through the taffrail and was shaped to fit around the chase ports and flow into the hull cavity. It's not strictly accurate having the boom belayed to the centre of the taffrail but it's one less hole in the deck where water ingress is more likely and also avoids the potential of fouling the steering gear and lines once the tiller is on the rudder head. Although it's sanded fairly smooth I'll plank the inside of the rear counter to avoid any texture issues. qwerty2008, dj.bobo, JerryTodd and 14 others 17 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 10, 2015 Share #36 Posted October 10, 2015 Looks like you've captured the hull perfectly - I'm suffering from 1:36 Cruizer envy mtaylor, Omega1234 and Canute 3 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share #37 Posted October 10, 2015 Thanks Jason, the cruizer is a nice shape all right. Omega1234, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted October 12, 2015 Share #38 Posted October 12, 2015 Nice progress Wayne. Omega1234 and Canute 2 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share #39 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) More hull work. The inside of the stern has been planked. And the capping rail added. This needs some filling still. Also on the stern the boom crutches have been added. These were shaped from a single piece on each side and a slot cut in the corner of the stern to recess it in. Once in place the fashion pieces were added with 1.5-2mm timber cut to match the curve on the rear counter side and another piece on the hull side. The seam between them was filled and sanded so it looks like one piece. I'm not skilled enough to cut this from a single pice to match the variety of curves in this piece. Also three lines of moulded strip were added at under the taffrail and faired in, at the bottom of the counter and lower down at the transom. A strip also runs the length of the hull. These were made with the shape filed into a razor blade as per Chuck and other luminaries on MSW. The entry steps had been added, these were made from two pieces- a moulded strip made as above and a flat plank step. Next it's either the head rails or strengthening the deck beams with cross members and marking out the access hatches. The later might require a bit of wrestling with the hull so it might be best to do that before the head rails are added. Edited November 10, 2015 by Timmo egkb, dvm27, Omega1234 and 7 others 10 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted November 10, 2015 Share #40 Posted November 10, 2015 Really nice Wayne, the details you've added really enhance the hull. Did you spile the planking, especially the top and butt planking on the wales? Looks fantastic . I'm jealous you have a copy of the 'Irene' book, looks to be very insightful. Trying to make out the name on the stern - "Harrier"? mtaylor 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share #41 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Hi Jason, yes it's Harrier but that's not confirmed as yet! There's plenty of options in 100 vessels in the class. The planking was spiled. Most of the planking lines have disappeared under the resin and paint is yet to come. I might rescribe the wale planking as it was so tortuous to do. Edited November 10, 2015 by Timmo mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted November 13, 2015 Share #42 Posted November 13, 2015 Looking great Wayne. mtaylor 1 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #43 Posted December 21, 2015 I've moved onto the head rails in order to complete the entire hull before moving on to the internal arrangement for the RC gear and ballast etc. The hair bracket for each side ( I think that's what it's called) was cut from a single piece of timber. It split on one side but this was easy rejoined and any gap will be filled later. Upper and lower cheeks have been added with templates for each cut from cardboard and a profile gauge used to get a good fit around the curve of the the bow. A scroll head was shaped into the brackets with a file. This was very quick and easy and adds a third dimension to the bow decoration. These rails will get a moulded profile scraped into them as per the hull side rail. The bowsprit has also been turned and had the bowsprit cap and bees added to the end. I've got some small brass sheaves that will be fitted to the bees later. I'll experiment with a piece of timber but I expect it'll be too fragile for the spar most likely to take knocks so fibreglass rod from the local fibreglass/ surfboard shop might be the answer, Next up is the catheads and their fiendishly complex knees and hawse holes with bolster. archjofo, egkb, JerryTodd and 16 others 19 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share #44 Posted January 11, 2016 Some decent progress on the Cruiser over the Christmas/new year period with the bow largely completed with the addition of head rails and hair brackets etc. This makes her look like a proper ship. The process was started with cheeks, followed by determining positions for the catheads and hawse holes and bolsters. The catheads have slots and holes cut for anchor lifting blocks and are also pinned in place with a brass rod through each. The cathead knees were cut with the help of paper templates from a single block as per the effort on my granado build. Lots of trial and error to get them symmetrical and sitting right. The pic below makes it look like catheads are uneven and things are off but it's distortion of the iPad camera at close range. A brass strip with a moulded pattern filed out was scraped along the components for decorative edge moulding effect. The rails were cut from timber that had been fibreglassed on one side for strength. However, once the whole production is assembled it's surprisingly strong and should take a few knocks. I'll likely add a grating of some sort between the rail but am lacking any reference so will just cobble up something that looks right. A summer holiday awaits so that'll be it in the shipyard for a while. Next up are the channels, which I hope should be fairly simple. Then that's the hull pretty much done. Canute, hexnut, mtaylor and 16 others 19 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted January 11, 2016 Share #45 Posted January 11, 2016 Really nice Wayne, the scale is giving you a chance to put some really nice detailing. How did you get the profile onto the various trim pieces? Love what you are doing! Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share #46 Posted January 11, 2016 Thanks Jason, yes the scale is quite nice for detail. It's big enough to add the bits you like and still fudge the bits that are too difficult. The moulded effect was cut with a scraper cut and filed with a profile and an overhanging edge that could be run along one edge of the timber so it scraped a groove at a consistent distance. Small files and blades were used to define it further. The timber is a little too soft and my technique not good enough to get a super crisp edge but I'll be looking for painting to further define it. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share #47 Posted April 24, 2016 It has been a while but there has been some progress in the shipyard. With the hull largely complete attention has turned to the masts. These were again cut from matai and mainly shaped by hand with a small plane. With a diameter of 14-16mm and length of over 360mm for the lower masts they were a bit big for my small proxxon lathe. This was quite easy to do by hand and very satisfying. The top gallant masts were turned from fibreglass rod as wood would not have the strength at this scale and if anything will get damaged in transit it'll be the top masts and jib boom. The fighting tops were made from 3mm ply which was glassed on both sides for strength. These were up scaled slightly from petrejus' plans after reading about size differences among some forums of SC&H kits. The batons and trestle trees were cut with the Byrnes table saw which allowed some very close tolerances and ensure everything fits together very closely and is quite strong without being stuck together. Working fids will allow the masts to drop down for transport although a test fitting has surprisingly revealed the vessel fits (with a list) in the back of the family SUV. The hounds are yet to be added but won't take long. The masts have been stepped in boxing with the help of their square bases and secured with a wood screw so if disaster strikes it's all remove able. It isn't pretty but practical. Also the rebated frames of the access hatches have been added, giving a final indication of how much room there will be to get at the mechanical entrails - hopefully it'll be enough but I'll aim to have that planned out and largely installed before the majority of the decking goes on. CDW, tadheus, Mirabell61 and 19 others 22 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted April 24, 2016 Share #48 Posted April 24, 2016 Looks good. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted April 24, 2016 Share #49 Posted April 24, 2016 Timmo, that's a beautiful build. I look forward to seeing her completed and in the water. Any chance of a video when the time comes? Those masts look very tall to fit in a car. How are you going to transport the model? Steven Canute, mtaylor and Timmo 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share #50 Posted April 24, 2016 Thanks Steven, The height from keel to the mainmast tip is about 1100mm. The vessel does fit in the back of the wagon when on a lean. I thought while planning the project that it wouldn't without masts lowered but there you go. Even so with the top gallant and top masts lowered once the fids are removed it'll take at least 300mm more off so no problems on the transport front. When she finally gets on the water I've got plans to mount a go pro on her. Hopefully it won't be footage of a titanic-esq maiden voyage. Omega1234, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 24, 2016 Share #51 Posted April 24, 2016 She will look good on the water. I like the groove to trap the water at the deck openings. I wish I had have thought of that when I was sailing RC. Bob mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share #52 Posted April 25, 2016 Thanks bob, I'm sure I obtained the idea from someone else as there are very few original ideas out there. It'll have a rubber sealing strip and some arrangement to secure them down snugly. I'm hoping to apply some paint soon which will make it look very different. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted April 25, 2016 Share #53 Posted April 25, 2016 Really like the progress Wayne, great work. Canute, Timmo and mtaylor 3 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted April 25, 2016 Share #54 Posted April 25, 2016 Outstanding work Wayne, a real beaut in the making there. Timmo, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 25, 2016 Share #55 Posted April 25, 2016 Thanks bob, I'm sure I obtained the idea from someone else as there are very few original ideas out there. It'll have a rubber sealing strip and some arrangement to secure them down snugly. I'm hoping to apply some paint soon which will make it look very different. We would have used petroleum jelly in the groove and a rubber band hooked from the keel to the bottom of the deck allowing the deck to be lifted just enough to unhook the rubber band for removal. Bob Timmo, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share #56 Posted April 25, 2016 We would have used petroleum jelly in the groove and a rubber band hooked from the keel to the bottom of the deck allowing the deck to be lifted just enough to unhook the rubber band for removal. Bob Yes, Simple is usually best. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share #57 Posted May 4, 2016 A coat of primer has been sprayed on and the major imperfections filled. Main coat of nelson's yellow on black awaits. The masts are presently varnished timber with black. I think I'll leave them like that as a nod to the fact the boat is not plastic. Mast rings etc to come. jonny.amy, mtaylor, davyboy and 19 others 22 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted May 5, 2016 Share #58 Posted May 5, 2016 Looking great Wayne! Can't wait to see some paint on there. Omega1234, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share #59 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) The false deck has been added with 2.5mm ply. This was done in sections and a hollow near the bow filled. The access hatches had their own ply covering and sit flush with the rest of the deck. The idea is they almost disappear when in place and planked. Planks are cut from a basswood sheet with dark grey card glued to one side. This gives a consistent line for caulking which is more of a scale colour than straight black. The wood is a bit soft but it'll have a solid covering of resin or varnish to protect it. The deck has been marked in the four butt shift pattern based on where the hatches and other deck furniture will be and the first planks laid on straight over the hatches. The hatch joints will be cut through once more planks are laid on and also mast holes recut. The central planks are laid full length as deck furniture placement means no plank joins would be visible. The margin plank was drawn on the deck and traced with the pattern transferred to a basswood sheet for cutting. Care was taken to achieve symmetry on these as at the bow as from plank 9 on either side they will be joggled into the margin plank. This pattern was drawn on the deck to make sure both sides lined up. Lots of repetitive planking ahead but it feels rewarding. Edited June 17, 2016 by Timmo WBlakeny, aviaamator, jwvolz and 9 others 12 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted June 18, 2016 Share #60 Posted June 18, 2016 I like the deck it looks very good. Also the hull comes out good with the primer on it. Canute, mtaylor, PeteB and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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