20 Gun Frigate by DSiemens - FINISHED - BOTTLE

[Piet]

Go for it Daniel, I'll be in a front row seat!  I am now contemplating a clipper hip in scale 1:3000 in a small lamp

But Gwen wants to see some progress on the VOC ship Surabaya before I tackle something else.

 

Cheers,

[DSiemens]

The admirals have got a point. They usually do. Best to make some progress on the current build or you'll never get it finished.

1:3000 sounds like a fun challenge though.

[DSiemens]

A little more progress. Got the ships lanterns done. The fore stay lines are temporary for now. I need to do a lot of thread blocks to rig them right.

 

 

[Omega1234]

Looking good, Daniel!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[IgorSky]

Great work, Daniel! Congrats!

[DSiemens]

I don't know that I put this ship up yet but I wanted to show it off. This is a side project I've worked on for some time now. I would do a little here and there while working in between glue or paint dtying. Finally got close enough to done I just finished it up. It's a smaller 6 gun Lake Champlain sloop.

 

 

[DSiemens]

My darn phone turns the pictures sideways. I'll see if I can fix that later.

[IgorSky]

Hi Daniel!
She looks very nice! What size is this bottle?

[Piet]

Beautiful Daniel, just beautiful.

 

Cheers,

[DSiemens]

Thanks Piet. Igor the bottle is 11.5 cm by 9 cm. About 3 cm wide. If I remember right the ship is 1:400 scale.

[DSiemens]

[bdgiantman2]

Amazing that you are making such details at that small a scale. Doing a great job, Daniel

 

Brian

[Landlubber Mike]

I don't know that I put this ship up yet but I wanted to show it off. This is a side project I've worked on for some time now. I would do a little here and there while working in between glue or paint dtying. Finally got close enough to done I just finished it up. It's a smaller 6 gun Lake Champlain sloop.

 

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Daniel, I meant to comment on your sloop, very nice!  Really well done.  Do you mind me asking how you did the mast (hinge method or otherwise), and which point you fixed the stays (bowsprit?  stern?  Mast?) since you used an upright bottle?  I'm still working on my Great Lakes schooner, which will also be in an upright bottle.  Haven't figured out yet how to do the mast and rigging, which will be a little tricky since it is really long and tall (which makes me think to not use a hinge for the masts) and has shrouds/ratlines (which I will probably tie off after inserting into the bottle).  Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

 

Feel free to respond by PM if you don't want me cluttering up your log with a discussion of a different build.

 

Thanks so much!

[DSiemens]

Thanks Brian.

 

Mike-  With this ship I'm using a hinge less method.  The masts are set in shallow divots held in place by the rigging.  When they are folded down the base of the mast will be loose which allows the masts to lay more flat.  It's a bit harder lifting the mast up with loose ends but I like the look.  To me it's more real and adds to the magic of ship in bottle building when the hinge is not there to show how it was done.  

 

For a schooner like your building I would suggest tying the forestay to the bowsprit and running it though a hole in the mast top then out the bottle.  It's the same method just sort of revered.  Instead of pulling the mast though the bowsprit your pulling it up through the mast top.  See my Olympic 470 build in my signature.  I used that method for that one.  It sounds a lot like what your trying to do.  

 

    

[DSiemens]

Got tired of ratlines so I ran some running rigging.

 

[Omega1234]

Super nice Daniel!!!!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

Edited January 6, 2017 by Omega1234

[DSiemens]

Thanks!

[DSiemens]

[Omega1234]

Hi Daniel

 

Mighty fine piece of work, you've got there!

 

Is she almost finished now?

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[mtaylor]

Nice looking frigate.  I had to look twice as the pictures show enough detail to be a much larger model.   

[IgorSky]

Hi Daniel!
Great progress!

Best Regards!
Igor.

 

[DSiemens]

Thanks every one.  Almost done.

 

 

[DSiemens]

On vacation for now but I plan on bottling her when I get back.  I've had to change some things rigging wise.  Should still look the same but she almost doesn't fit.  :/  

 

 

[DSiemens]

Well.  Not going so good.  Tried to bottle her twice and the second time,I end up breaking a mast.  I got some,more tricks up my sleeve though. ,

 

 

[mtaylor]

Nope, not going to like that post...  I hope your tricks work.  

[IgorSky]

Hi, Daniel!
I hope that you will cope with this problem!

Good luck!
Igor.

[cwboland]

Ouch. I'm sure everything will turn out fine though. 

[DSiemens]

Thanks for the support.  Yeah its an occupational hazard.  Not the first time won't be the last.  Problem is my own mis measurements.  The ship is simply to big for this bottle neck.  I'm going to have to section it off and put each mast in one at a time.  That does mean a complete redo of the rigging.  My theory has always been though if a ship is not tough enough to get in a bottle its not tough enough to last.  I had a former client say he had one of my models fall off a shelf and sustained no damage.  I was happy to hear it and at the same time it figured,  I built that ship it to last.  This one needs to be the same way.  

 

[exwafoo]

Hi Dan,

Sympathies - been there as well. You'll get there

 

Alan

[Omega1234]

Hi Daniel

 

I know exactly what you're going through and, I've got no doubt that you'll recover and rebuild the mast and make it even better than before.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick